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being AGP and a semi-passoid is really traumatizing long term if youre used to being a man

>girls just accept me as one of them no real question or worry of me trying to fuck one of them

>constantly asked about my beauty routines now but used to just piss in bottles and shower when i felt like it

>get treated like a delicate flower when i was used to throwing boxes in a warehouse for 10+ hours

>always given the benefit of the doubt or just labeled dumb/innocent if i fuck up

>most men look at me like a piece of meat now/treat me like a child instead of competition

i could list wayyyy more. on top of it i went from extremely ugly guy to semi okay/pretty if i put the effort in. there were times crossdressing made me feral but now it doesnt cross my mind putting panties on and going to my cushy office email job. it genuinely scares me how comfortable ive let myself get with this. like a frog in boiling water type situation. i thought that when i started hrt it would last maybe a month before id go back to being male. its been really hard accepting that everyone just sees me as a woman now. even people that are judegmental/transphobic still find it hard to say stuff. its hard to be okay with it and just accept thats how im seen now because ive had the same defensive shield up for years at this point. it feels like ptsd or something
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I sorta relate to this too. I was a shut in neet for 3 years then I took hrt and when I came out of th cage it was like the world was a different place. I was originally just going to take hrt to feel less dissociated in my body but then everyone just started accepting that I was a woman and I was like what are you talking about you stupid retard. Im not even a human stop calling me miss. I dont have an insta stop asking me for one gavin. Just leave me alone. I never was a part of your world. Just leave me alone.
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I kind of know what you mean OP. I'm happy it worked out for you I enjoyed reading that.
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>>42170352
>>42170498
This is very strange. You're both basically describing the best case scenario outcome to your situations, and yet you're still miserable. As a neet who pisses in bottles myself, I have a hard time seeing what the problem is
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>>42170498
I get this too except now I don't even feel like a semi passoid, just a hon. I don't try to girlmode anymore. If I malefail I freak out.
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>>42170620
I guess it's sorta just like the stranger from camus. You see how shallow all of it is i guess in society. A bit of hair and fat on your cheeks and all of a sudden you go from an asocial monster to an accepted member of society. Its like you finally make the dress code and all of a sudden they decide you have value. But youre still you. Life is good and im not unhappy i just sorta hate humans
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>>42170901
this is exactly what i mean. you summed up my thread pretty easily. i went from 0 worth to suddenly wanted and it all just feels weirdly shallow and gave me a new perspective on humans in general
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i dont pass and im treated like dirt
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>>42170352
boo fucking hoo
sick of people who made it conjuring imaginary reasons why it's actually a Bad Thing that they pass and get male attention
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boys in women's bodies
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>>42170352
me frfr. i had a moment earlier today where i just kinda looked around and realized what happened to me. like damn i am sitting here with my coffee color phone and starlight macbook tapping my acrylics in a coffee shop while texans call me maam. voicetrained so hard i had a coughing fit in the store and nobody batted an eye.

i used to be an ugly chud that streetraced and collected guns. now dudes wont let me replace my own tire. i dont even like that stuff anymore wtf happened to me
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>>42170352
me, except now I just barely remember what it was like back then, granted I've been getting older and uglier and this has been balancing over time
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>>42171458
Hopegem fr, I gotta lock in tho
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>>42171458
hearing about stories like this is always fascinating to me. People having experienced both gender roles in their life. Transgeners are so cool and society should learn from them.
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After I transitioned and started passing like I feel like a fraud and a liar and like im a man and men hit on me and shit and im just like no this is wrong and disordered im going to hell im a man what am i doing why do people think im a woman
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like ppl treat me like a normal woman and im like huh this feels weird this is strange
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Like everyone i see sees me as a woman but i still see me as a man, I still see me as like a silly guy


>>42171937
>>42171945
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>>42170352
This put a smile on my face. Brought some nostalgia from several years ago. Imposter syndrome goes away too, though.
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>>42170352
what I wouldnt fucking give for this. People just look at me the same way they would look at a homeless person. shame and disgust.
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>>42170352
Seems like you are just detailing how looked down upon pretty boys are in western society. I mean you had to have atleast been a biotwinkhon or cutecel to have reached semi-passoid.
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>>42171387

glad someone said it, this is weird.
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>>42171937
do you atleast try to siphon resources from them like money? It is weird having guys hit on you, it's even worse that they automatically assume you are submissive, and do the most cringe dom larp thing you will ever see while talking about muh dic every 3 seconds.



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