Shoulder width matters a lot less for passing than you think it does.
>>42175273Yes I know it's actually my Quasimodo back/ribs that's the issue.
>>42175273this woman has a wide torso but thin arms, and almost nonexistent deltoid muscles. it is the perception of how big the actual shoulder is, rather than bideltoid width, that contributes to male appearance
>>42175273as with most things, it’s more about the proportions with the rest of your body than the actual width number.
>>42175294i think its less about ribs and more about trannies having big meaty armssee how thin her arms are>>42175304exactly this
>>42175311I have thin arms (except for the loose skin). It really is the back/ribs for me. That or I'm a reverse dysphoric faketrans turbohon or something.
>>42175273i'm 5'11, and started hrt at 15. i had 14 inch shoulders, and i malefailed constantly after just a few months on estrogen. then, when i was 16, i got force detransitioned and force masculinised, and my shoulders grew by like 4 inches. i've never malefailed once since then.
>>42175273There's nothing wrong with broad shoulders.
>>42175339Good
>>42175339I'm sorry for you nona.
>>42175359Have you ever considered killing yourself? If so, listen to those thoughts next time.
>>42175273Wrong. On a cis woman, sure, they can get away with anything because they are actually women, but a trans woman has to nail down every single "tell" she can to counteract all the many "tells" she can't do anything about.
I've been lifting for over a year now and I was scared of building up my delts because I thought it would make passing harder. I told myself I can quit if it gets bad but so far it hasn't mattered. I think when people say broad shoulders what they're actually looking at it waist and hips in contrast to the shoulders.
>>42175368Oh noooo lil jeep should've just stayed a man all along lol
Ratios > everythingWider shoulders mean its more likely your shr is irrepeirably fucked
>>42175463What if you have okay shoulders but a tiny head
>>42175273what cis women consider broad shoulders
>>42175451NTA, I just think you're a pathetic little shit whose ideal state of being is a pile of viscera on the pavement
>>42175484cis women are stupid
>>42175484Most cis women have BDD now because of social media
>>42175490Are you going to make that happen, or are you just going to seethe? I'm sure you have the big manly body to smash me into a pulp if you wanted to.
