The longer I transition, the more I realize that accessing the level of privilege and life quality successful cis people have, is the entire point of transitioning. Trying to be different and turning away from the main stream to become a "heroic", non-passing social reject is a bad coping mechanism we've been sold by old-timers who've lost all hope and hostile parties trying to weaken our influence. Trans people don't need to challenge anything. Neither biology nor gender roles nor anything to do with LGB, social justice or feminism. Being trans is not a political stance, nor is it something that needs to be pathologized beyond reason. We could easily be the most successful sexual minority with the most rights if we didn't insist on being that metaphorical weirdo sitting in a corner and watching everyone get to play instead of trying to catch the ball ourselves.Despite being bisexual myself, I've recently started to realize that LGB without the T would actually be a great concept, if it wasn't initiated by hostile groups seeking to harm us. Why? Not because I have anything against the homosexual, he's established himself and I respect that. But because we as trans people have such an enormous potential we barely recognize ourselves. The pushback we receive is a direct reaction to this. Oftentimes it is our enemies who understand how potent we are, long before we do. I wish for trans people to fully exert themselves, become stealth and as socially successful as they possibly can. Remember that the normative is nothing to be feared, it's something to embrace and immerse yourself. You will soon notice that it not only makes you feel fantastic and healthy, but also that it gets you the soft power you need to effectively criticize what you dislike instead of drowning in your own misery.t. FTM
>>42185279Ultra giga based post. Of course the crab bucket brigade here won't engage with it though.
>>42185562It's a shame, but I'm glad it at least resonated with you.
>>42185279>I wish for trans people to fully exert themselves, become stealth and as socially successful as they possibly canThat's what I did. The benefits are real. But it's still quite annoying that so many other trans people refuse to even listen.Then, as I got older, the queer spaces got filled with gigacommies and younglings who are convinced they know everything (when they really don't).Now this board is the only place where I still somewhat sorta engage. And only when I have time to kill. Like now as I wait for my husband to come home from work.You are correct. But it's unlikely for that to be recognized even among most transpeople for decades to come.It also doesn't help that a lot of people who aren't trans "try out" (transtrenders) and it also doesn't help that too many trans people expect hrt to fix all of their problems.>t. married tranny
>>42185279The 2 LGBT peeps in the friend group just found out yesterday that I have been on E for the past year.... The one who prior was convinced I was a nazi has now become fucking enamored and is convinced that now we have some common ground, I fully intend to make this my entire personality like they do... I think I spent the best part of 4 hours trying to scare them off, however I believe they are convinced they can "show me the light" Im glad I found your post because they want me to hang out with their "trans" Friends this week so i can get exposure to "real Trannies" You post really summarizes well how I feel about the identity.
>>42185279and if you're genetically incapable of being stealth?
>>42185656I've also cut myself off from all trans spaces except this one. I will confess that it makes me a little sad because sometimes I do want to talk about trans topics. I mean, it's a pretty specific shared lived experience.It's funny, I work in a pretty high-prestige field and there's a trans woman in my office. In all my time being there, she's never once brought up anything trans-related whatsoever beyond the original "reveal", even when the two of us are alone. Compared to the trans communities who can't have a single conversation not centered around it. But if that's the price to pay for making it out of the bucket, it's a very small one.
>>42185656>also doesn't help that too many trans people expect hrt to fix all of their problemsIt's paradoxical that individuals who have been entirely incapable of fixing their personal predicaments in the past would flock to something like transition that invites challenge like nothing else. But it checks out when recognized that HRT can act like an ultra effective antidepressant for some. There's something romantic and idealistic about using transition as a self-advancement tool. In order to do that, though, it must first be recognized as a tool and not the drive or the wielder.>>42185674These vultures will try to drag you down with them. >>42185703Slim pickings.
>>42185806>There's something romantic and idealistic about using transition as a self-advancement tool.This was actually one of my motivations for transitioning. I've definitely become magnitudes less depressed and less of a loser. Kinda neglected my appearance because my job took over everything, but I'm working on fixing that too.
success comes naturally to me
>>42185840I'd never let the fag crab bucket hold me back from becoming as rich and beaitiful as I can be. Only retarded baby gays fall for that shit.
>>42185656please tell me what is the secret to becoming stealth what do you have to do step-by-step please !!!!
>>42185806Yeah, and its not like I enjoy being the parade pisser.... I just don't understand how they can live thinking their crazy expectations are easily attainable. Like I was just trying to explain the concept how I feel totally fine with just HRT leveling my mood and brain out. I like even brought up how like if I was given the choice of Free FFS and SRS, or be born cis assigned at birth gender... I'm taking the latter... Like this mfer said they are transitioning and dont want to look cis, they like the "trans aesthetic" I'm not on HRT because I want to feel cute... I'm chemically castrating myself because my brain got the wrong fucking instruction set lmfao...And if you are dysphoric, why tf would you want to be trans and not just recognized as the gender you feel comfortable as?? >>There's something romantic and idealistic about using transition as a self-advancement tool. In order to do that, though, it must first be recognized as a tool and not the drive or the wielder.This is a really good point too.. I am going to add this to the tool box as well!
>>42185279op>Being trans is not a political stancealso op>But because we as trans people have such an enormous potential we barely recognize ourselves. The pushback we receive is a direct reaction to this. Oftentimes it is our enemies who understand how potent we are, long before we do.
>>42185873The biggest secret is being normal. I'm not joking.I'm a normal woman. I do normal woman things. I'm married to a man. I enjoy being his wife with all of what that entails. I'm not a girlboss and I'm not an insecure giganeurotic nosy Karen.
>>42185279i agree. i'm completely unaware of if a shift in values is happening as a result of increasing anti-trans pressure forcing people to go dark, but it might be a good thing.'moding until you can pass and then stealthing has always seemed the obvious choice, and the culture of being vocally trans and not confirming to gender roles you see on other sites and in some trans spaces really put me off transitioning and kept me repping for years it didn't have tothe only issue i can see is that we need some level of rights in order to be able to have access to hrt, change gender markers, change name etc. but if only passoids were he ones who were politically active we'd be miles ahead of where we are just because our optics wouldn't be down in hell>t. mtf 'moder
This would stop being a beautiful fantasy if anyone at all was allowed to enforce optics outside of here. Most normie trannies have no conception of optics because of how hugboxy surface communities get. Because it's a surface community, it's one of the limited exposures cis normies get to trans people. When they see r/mtf just starting to ban gender transformation fetish porn they then start doubting ALL trans people when they tell them it's not a fetish, even if there's a large subset of us that just want to live life.
>>42185279>the minority with the most rightsfuck off
>>42185279This kind of worldview is sort of right but doesn't survive contact with reality. You do not account for the severe mental illness comorbidity. Or the fact that most trans people can never pass (you handwaved this earlier). I guarantee most of the people in your camp spend more time shaming trans people in the dumps than trying to uplift them.
>>42185968>I'm not on HRT because I want to feel cute... I'm chemically castrating myself because my brain got the wrong fucking instruction set lmfaoI don't subscribe to transmedicalist viewpoints, even if you might've misinterpreted me as doing so. The entire "I'm such a sick freak and my brain's all wrong" shtick is the exact mirror of the non-passing social reject I mentioned in the original post. It's the same useless self-pity and sentimentalism that gets you nowhere, and it's just as harmful as the views of the trans people you described before. An identity built around suffering is worthless.>>42186360You first.
>>42186435100%. I’m stealth and married to a cis man but I think sentiments like OP’s are pointlessly smug and cruel. Not everyone can pass, and there’s a ton of trauma in the community. None of that goes away just because someone who made it and wants to pretend they never had a cringe babytrans phase insists we need to just act and look normal. Like no, that’s not reality, sorry.
>>42186626I think he's right though we should try to help each other make it out of these terrible circumstances, make money and get better, and a lot of communities out there just kind of wallow instead of helping each other with job training and etc
>>42185279faketrans rant that all the faketrans retards (most of our posters) on this board will agree with. also>being trans isn't political, it's only [extremely political stance that relies on conforming to established politics]
>>42186716Yeah that strikes me as really odd. Saying it’s not political in this year of our Lord 2025, while also promoting an inherently political assimilationist mindset where you completely closet yourself to survive, is actually insane.
>>42186110>the culture of being vocally trans and not confirming to gender roles you see on other sites and in some trans spaces really put me off transitioning and kept me repping for years it didn't have toNothing wrong with being openly trans, as long as it's calculated. It only fits certain personalities, which is why stealth is still preferred for most trans people. Transitioning isn't about virtue-signaling and taking on social justice issues to address. Doesn't mean that individual trans people can't do that on their own accord, but that's their personal politics.>>42186337>if anyone at all was allowed to enforce optics outside of hereI'm sorry to disappoint, anon, but this place isn't enforcing anything. Society already set forth generalized standards on appearance, and they're ridiculously easy to fulfil. There is nothing to enforce. You have to either be born disfigured or consciously decide to go against the grain to break them. >it's not a fetishIt wouldn't be relevant if it were.>>42186435>You do not account for the severe mental illness comorbidityI don't need to. Because that's a classic stress reaction from facing social ostracism and discrimination, not inherent to being trans. Thus, it's bound to self-resolve with swift intervention.>Or the fact that most trans people can never pass (you handwaved this earlier)It's barely worth a wave since most trans people are able to pass. >most of the people in your camp spend more time shaming trans people in the dumps than trying to uplift themHow's that uplifting supposed to work? You're dealing with people who self-impose restricting beliefs like "I'm genetically unable to pass". There's no helping lunatics, and it's a waste of time to engage them. If they want to drown in misery, let them.
>>42185279>poonah>become stealth, like meEasy for a poonpoon to say, lmaoPoonahs zipper titters, grow pube beard, and have deadass breedable hips but people are like,"ah, hello, sir"
>>42186626>Not everyone can passOnly basket cases can't, really. >just because someone who made it and wants to pretend they never had a cringe babytrans phaseDisregarding that this is an odd straw man that has nothing to do with my original post, I concede that I'm not really a people person and not very empathetic, I'm a strategist at heart. Regardless, this cuddlebug attitude some trans people display does nothing to help early transitioners. It only causes Peter Pan syndrome and prolongs their "babytrans" phase indefinitely, infantilizing them. This is not to say that you should be needlessly cruel to people who are open for advice and community, quite the opposite.>>42186716>faketrans No such thing. The "trutrans" side of things resembles someone who always loses, no matter what. You can't live without pathologizing yourself endlessly all while simultaneously allowing yourself to be used as a political tool because you're too physically frail and mentally weak to even defend yourself from the external influences you condemn. Life for the self-proclaimed trutrans is an endless humiliation ritual, let's face it.>>42187238>Poonahs zipper titters, grow pube beard, and have deadass breedable hips>but people are like, "ah, hello, sir"You've just demonstrated how easy passing is.
