why is it so easy for hsts to pass as women?
Hunter Schafer is agp and doesn't pass as a woman
schafer is lesbian btw
>>42185769Nah shes androphilic, she was just lesbian baiting like every teen girl
>>42185757Hsts are already naturally feminine without trying to be feminine. Agp are masculine and can only imitate and try to buy femininity, but they'll never be feminine.
>>42185769> doesnt passHahahahahaha
>>42185784trvth nvke. im agp and i tried to larp as gay as a teenager by affecting the feminine voice and personality, but i was doing it conciously. it doesnt work. im a masculine man no matter how much i try to escape it
>>42185784Thats not a feminine body. Its inverted triangle, the most masculine body shape>>42185757She is agp and clearly favors women, also does not pass
>>42185757hsts and agp dont existyou have created this dichotomy that is based on passers and non passers. if you meant why trans women who are attracted to men tend to pass better then those who are attracted to women it comes down to a few reasons.1. men will refuse to seriously date a non passing trans woman while lesbians are more open to it2. trans women who are attracted to women always have the option of just dating other trans women. that way they dont need to focus on passing nearly as much3. lesbians tend to be more attracted to masculine women then men are. masculine trans women tend not to pass.
>>42185801>>42185784This is why I feel like us AGPs must've commited some terrible crimes in the past life to be reborn as AGP, like why do we get literal physical pain and suffering over our masculinity and yet we're like ogres, why? this isn't fair at all, what wrong did we do? And anyway everyone hates us
>>42185822i know, we're completely detested by everyone whereas HSTS are always naturally accepted as being just different. its because they can see how ill fitting our personalities are, we're like monsters trying to trick people that we're human.
>>42185821>trans women who are attracted to women always have the option of just dating other trans womenI'm a trans woman lesbian and I'm not attracted to other trans women. I only date other trans girls cause I don't want to be alone and cis women make me feel like an ugly ogre
>>42185835Hey, you wanna share discords? you literally have the sam mindset as mine, I really wanna talk to another doomer AGP
>>42185821> hsts and agp = transWell this is true, but it's a funny meme regardless.
>>42185784Cis woman with this build would be called mannish and butch
>>42185855Or sex icons, depending on the decade (80s/90s)
>>42185820Cope>>42185855CopeShe passes and looks feminine, even pulling off a fit girl aesthetic, while AGP starve themselves and use drugs and generally look unhealthy and ghoulish. Men prefer picrel. Agp will only attract trannies and low value chasers because they look horrible and think starvation is how you look female.
>>42185911>looks feminineFor a trans woman but its inverted triangle and a cis woman who looked like this would be very insecure. You are sex blind.
>>42185911please tell me she kept the cock
>>42185757pic unrel?
>>42186047Hsts don't want to date gay men so they get a vagina
>>42186254Vag bros get vaginas
>>42186254im not attracted to male cock so im not gay
It's all just lookism, like the rest of human society.
>>42186289You are a faggot and people like me would never want you
>>42185757The answer is simple. We don't choose to be women because of some internal drive. It chooses us as a lifestyle, rather than we choosing it. A male homosexual knows that if they don't attract men as a male and attract men better as a female, then transitioning is to attract men more. It's not motivated because we want to be women, it's motivated because we do better as women.We choose to transition because we look more like women than men in the first place.
>>42186047nah that shits gone
>>42186479let me suck your gock or youre performing straight erasure you fuckkng bigot
>>42186517>t. "dolls and dresses chose me as a child, I had no choice but to play with them and fag out"
>>42186562Exactly!We don't really desire to have women bodies. We desired as children to be little girls with children and we grow up gay. We remember how to be girls from childhood better than remember how to be boys. We never tried to be like a boy.
>>42186517>we look more like women than men in the first placeNo you don't. Utter delusion.
>>42185774Oh really now? Name the last 3 people she dated.
>>42186598>We never tried to be like a boy.Because you're AGP, not HSTS. HSTS try desperately to fit in as boys, especially during puberty. AGP refuse to do anything boy-coded. Demanding girl-coded things like dolls and dresses isn't incorrigible femininity. It's AGP behavior.
its been like literally 40 years can we pleassssse shut the fuck up with unironic agp v. hsts discourseunbelievable how many trannies ride blanchard's shriveled shrimp dick
>>42186599I'm sorry, but we do look more like girls.It's so traumatic to you because your heterosexual and you think that women are the best looking and most sexy. We don't see it that way; we see males is being more sexually attractive and having better looking bodies. It's easier for us to adjust to being less than Beautiful by being a female, which you simply don't get because you're so hung up on the idea that women are the beautiful sex. You don't realize how we look at male bodies
>>42186254They get a transgina, which is unzipped scrote and penis ;)To make frotting with bichads easier...
>>42186621No you're wrong I can't believe you listen to such bullshit. Hsts are feminine boys in childhood who grow up gay. If we look traditionally masculine and we are handsome we stay gay men. Most hsts don't transition because they rather look like handsome then ugly. We really see most women's bodies as ugly looking and choose it more out of desperation for finding the sex partner. It's not internally motivated like it is with you guys you guys want to be women we are just like women whether we like it or not
>>42186632HSTS look like beta men before transition. Not like women. Blanchard never said HSTS look like women before hormones.
>>42186657I don't care what the man said he doesn't know it unless he's experienced it personally. He's just some Joker that wrote a book. But we really are is we are gay men who look more like women naturally we passed better as women before we ever take a hormone and it's our reason to go on hormones is not because we enjoy it it's because we think we'll attract more men.
>>42186677the bichuds be LINING UP for that mercenary of gender, the husstussy and her beautiful gock
>>42186642You are an autogynephilic male.Do you know what boys with Klinefelter's or PAIS do? They try to be masculine despite looking and behaving feminine. They don't run crying to the gender clinic. You have no such excuse, because if you were intersex you would've said it already. You are a performative faggot with an emotional and/or erotic attachment to femininity.
>>42186677And here we go again. Point out that the typology contradicts the claim, get "No it's impossible for anyone else to understand just how unique and special we are!" in response.I've seen trannies who claim to have passed as women before transition. It's always because they were deliberately trying to look like women: long hair, beard removed, makeup, feminine clothing. Some even took hormones but pretended that didn't count as transition because they hadn't been formally diagnosed at that point.
>>42186698You're so bothered by my existence! Why are you so threatened by us? We are homosexual males who transition; you are heterosexual males who transition. We don't need funny made up names for who we are. If I hadn't transitioned I would have been a gay man. If you hadn't transitioned, you'd have been straight man. This is the difference!
>>42186734No: if I'd gotten a boyfriend before transition, then I wouldn't have transitioned. You've invented an opponent in your head.I'm not "threatened by [your] existence." I'm just calling out lies.
>>42186733Sure, it's common for a little homeless Queens to take elicit hormones off the black marketI do it because they want to be attractive and make money off of John's.Straight males who want to be women do not ever get involved in prostitution I don't know why but they just don't.
>>42186762Missing the point. "I looked like a woman before I officially transitioned!" buries the lede that you'd basically already DIYed your transition.
>>42186779What is lede?Most of us just don't look like handsome men. Gay men reject us and it's this rejection that causes us to transition. We may think we like straight men but it's really because we want to be attractive not because we want to be women
>>42186734You probably believe in an immortal soul and other intangible fixed identity concepts that have no scientific support don't you?>>42186762Girl all three of my ex girlfriends were AGP straight males and did sex work. Jnless you're distinguishing porn from prostitutuon?
>>42186789No I don't believe in any kind of immortal soul. I think all living creatures die and stay dead permanently.
>>42186786Most people are mid in terms of looks. They don't transition because of it. They accept it, or they work to improve themselves by going to the gym or getting cosmetic surgery if they can afford it. You would have done those things or somply settled for a similarly mid partner if your motivation were really just about getting a partner.
>>42185757That's an AGP, and AGPs tend to pass better since they want to be actual women. HSTS are mostly Dylan Mulvaney types who act like dragqueens
>>42186762Doing sex work feeds into the AGP "I'm a real woman getting used by men!" fantasy.
>>42186822What do you act like?
>>42186830A normal woman
>>42186834yeaaah
>>42186824Schizoid
AGP act like straight menHSTS act like gay menNeither acts like women
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>>42186824I can't imagine anyone other than out of desperation selling themselves in the street too some potentially dangerous man. I'm not saying you're incorrect I'm just saying you're talking about crazy people.
>>42186847not an argument
>>42186834normal woman behavior doesn't include sneeding on 4chan hon
>>42186850This is about the closest to the truth I've read on here. I know you're all basically morons but I think you know that hsts means homosexual transsexual which means the guy is a homosexual before he becomes a transsexual. I think you have the intelligence to understand this concept.
>>42186869The thought of reining in their performative femininity at home is so intolerable to them that they'd rather become homeless and do sex work.
>>42186871Why would i argue with a schizo
>>42186884You refuse to continue arguing because you were losing, jeep.
>>42186882Stop using such strange language and speak normally Some males are naturally feminine, they don't necessary perform anything
>>42186892You’re so feminine you’re the htst queen with how you talk you’re the flamest of flamers
>>42186898You admitted earlier that your femininity is performative: demanding to play with dolls and dresses, and refusing to try to behave like a boy.
>>42186918I never used the word performing unless you're talking about performing the drag show yes we do perform in drag shows but only in drag shows. If going to keep talking like an idiot, I'm not going to respond to you
>>42185757because normies notoriously confuse faggotry with femininity
>>42186930Girl-coded toy and clothing choices are performative. Refusing to try to behave like a boy is performative. It's not the same as trying and repeatedly failing. Girls who like playing with toy trucks aren't masculine because of it. They just like toy trucks.
AGP v. HSTS is literally the imperials v. Stormcloaks of trannies.
>>42186962Blah blah blah blah saying a lot of nothing
>>42187027Sorry your femininity is a delicate performance, jeep.
>>42186822no hunter is a self aware hsts