so i'm a cis guy and i dont have gender dysphoria. but ever since i was like 10 or 11 i wanted to be a girl. like i have always related to girls more than guys anyway. like all my friends are girls and i dont really feel sexual attraction to girls in general. also other guys are taller and stronger than me and i dont really feel like i'm one of them.but anyway how do i cope? like sometimes being a male makes me feel kind of panicky. like i want to just sit in a dark corner and cry about my body. like i feel like i have kind of a weight on me that prevents me to live the life i am supposed to. and i hate to sound sexist here but sometimes when my friends lend me their clothes i like how pretty it makes me feel.how other guys who kind of struggle with gender cope?
>>42195090friends are just lending you, a guy, women's (i assume) clothes? wtf?
>>42195090>don't have gender dysphoria>describes experiences best described as gender dysphoriaWhat do you think gender dysphoria is?
>>42195090I also never had dysphoria but also not into tranny porn. I just wanted to be a woman. But I really wanted to so leaned in heavily and enjoyed the journey too (minus some weird side-effects form hrt which thankfully were temporary).That's how I coped. I just trooned out.This would be the 11th year. Still think it was a good idea.
>>42195101like it's not a very common thing but like couple times i have had some kind of accident and my clothes get ruined or dirty and that can help me. like it has happened like twice so far.
>>42195112i mean i dont really feel like a woman or anything like that. im just kind of a strange guy.
>>42195131Gender dysphoria isn't just "I feel like a woman." That's the bullshit peddled to sanitize the experience to cis people. A lot is despair in your assigned sex. A lot is struggling with your body.
>>42195090>the most oblivious person of the year
>>42195140idk how i explain it. like the body itself is not the problem. like i do have kinda feminine body for a guy. but like it is still like a guy's body. idk how to explain.
>>42195156Does it bug you that it's the body of a feminine guy?
>>42195090Maybe you're like me and couldn't play around growing up? That bothered me a lot and is why I'm into crossplay cosplay now. Standard assembly line male clothes are disappointingly drab and hetero-normie coded.I want kilts and other skirts and maybe even dresses, that's all!!!! But I like male clothes too. I just don't want to feel forced to always wear the most masculine, rugged, normalized, unconspicuous clothes.
>>42195208 (corr.)*play around with clothes, masks, facepaint, dressing up for halloween etc
>>42195090take your pills
>>42195090OP I'm going to tell you some things I wish somebody had told me before transitioning:You need to get out of your head a little bit and see yourself from the outside, as one human being among many others in the world around you.Whatever meaning those feelings you described hold is basically impossible to ascertain— the real truth is in the gap, the void, between all these feelings and thoughts about other men and women and your body. But if you start looking back at all those emotions and experiences while holding the idea of gender dysphoria in your mind, you will of course find gender dysphoria. Finding yourself to be trans is comforting in a way, at least in the sense that it provides structure. A clear reason for why you failed in these seemingly basic things of life and gender that your peers succeeded in. You are just suffering from a medical problem, for which there is a medical solution. A reason for your why you failed at life, and now a new chance at it. It's honestly a very beautiful and life-affirming realization.But I would just ask you to consider if you really think it's that easy. If you can really pick at your own brain like that and find such a clear, simple answer in the murky depths of your consciousness. I transitioned 5 years ago, and it helped me with my dysphoria. I'm definitely a lot happier and overall in a better mental and physical state now than I was prior to transitioning, but then again a lot of things changed in my life over the past 5 years. I'm not telling you you necessarily shouldn't do it.I plan on continuing my transition for the rest of my life, but if I had considered some of these things those 5 years ago, I probably would not have transitioned in the first place. Who is to tell what my life would have looked like in that case?
>>42195090i transitioned...
>>42195090yeah when i was 14 once my girl friends put makeup and a dress on me and i cried looking in the mirror the next day but im basically just a cis guy, my 20s have been very rough with the masculinisation but theres no escaping it.
reading shit like this makes me wonder if some trannies actually believe theyre girls. putting on panties always gets me bricked within seconds but never in my life have i thought man i wish i was a foid
>>42195394i dont really get like that from crossdressing, but i like the idea of it, i mostly just feel very satisfied and relaxed when i look or feel feminine, and tense and freaked out when i feel masculine. i do like girls though, agp freakkk
>>42195363>no escaping itTake your pills
>>42195451idk im not a woman, i have a male body and a male face, i dont wanna look ridiculous i want to be normal. im ok with having a male body i just want to look and feel feminine and not feel like a clown
>>42195414like above isnt me, but when i was younger i had girls do my makeup and my hair and shit on a couple different school trips and it did nothing for me. theyd paint my nails, nothing. i much enjoy being the strongest man in the room. 15 20 hours a week fighting on top of s&c. crossdressing doesnt have to make you gay or a woman
>>42195467That sounds like fear of being visibly trans rather than not wanting to be a girl. That same fear kept me from trooning out at 17 when I finally learned about HRT, but I did so anyways at 25. It sounds like you are dysphoric, and I would urge you to consider what happens as you get older while taking HRT vs while not taking HRT.
>>42195526Are you visibly trans now and ok with it?
>>42195723I am visibly trans and it makes me wish I had started sooner. I have other issues though that are messing with me so it's hard to say how much I'm okay with it.
>>42195751So visibly trans forever > man or...?
>>42195526i mean its already too late, my face is visibly male, even women in my family look masculine. i already tried hrt and it didnt work and made me uncomfortable, some people are just stuck as what they are you know.
>>42195090>i dont have gender dysphoria>ever since i was like 10 or 11>i wanted to be a girlYea that deserves a frogpost
>>42195759In some ways. I have had other health issues so I can't really make an objective 1:1 comparison. I only trooned out when it felt like I couldn't take it anymore.
>>42195866I did the same thing but i'd rather manmode than be visibly trans
>>42195895It's a balancing act.
dysphoria doesnt really mean you are 100% a girl or a boy in your head, for me its more partial, like i hit puberty like 16 years ago, you dont masculinise for over a decade and somehow have a completely feminine internal identity, the desire is there but when i look and think about myself, i just think of myself as a sad guy honestly, you could give me all the surgeries in the world and then maybe in 2 decades i could think of myself as a woman, is that worth the effort? seems insane to me. and all because i just wanted to feel pretty when i was 15
>>42195942>you could give me all the surgeries in the world and then maybe in 2 decades i could think of myself as a womanWow, that's rough. From point zero to fully passing to rural strangers I needed 6 years. But admittedly I put the work really hard. And started at 26.
>>42195090>since 10/11 I wanted to be a girl>always related more to girls>being male makes me feel panicky>I want to sit in a dark corner and cry about my bodythat's gender dysphoria, anon
>>42195972NTA, but I think it's about passing to themselves, which is something I feel. That and like, I sometimes feel like I'm supposed to be a man. Or like my face feels wrong like I'm supposed to have a beard. It's weird.
>>42196001yeah thats what i mean, maybe i could pass to other people faster but in terms of thinking of myself as a girl when ive spent the better half of my 20s in a dark room as a gamer neet its like lol come on man, im male in my soul to the end i think
>>42196001>>42196044Fair enough. I'm in a similar boat except I like existing as a woman even though I'm malebrained.t. >>42195760
>>42196159It's really disorienting when it happens. I get panicky and freak out.
>>42195090>doesnt relate to males>wants to be a girl>"b-but im a cis guy tho, how do i cope?"two options sister; either you take the troonpill now or you continue repping until you cant anymore and become a terminal lateshit boomerhon or rope at 40your choice really, but if you think its ever gonna go away and one morning youre gonna magically wake up as a cis male with no gender confusion youre retarded
>>42196253I'm sorry this happens to you :(Ig I simply made peace easier. The benefits far outweigh the mild inconveniences. Yeah, I should've been a man, but being a woman suits so me so much better that I thank my lucky stars for taking the leap back in '15.
>>42195090>how do i copeidk about you but i just transitioned.i hate it when trannies explain down to a t how they feel all these various different crushing and uneasy feelings about their gender and then drop the>but i dont have dysphoriayou fucking retard ape thats dysphoria. you can transition or you can live live the rest of your life like this. it only gets worse with time and age btw
>>42195394getting bricked up from wearing panties just sounds like a babytrans thing. eventually it just becomes normal. or maybe you just have terminal agp in which case i guess you get to enjoy that excitement for longer. i know some trannies would give anything to be girls but personally i just wanna LOOK and sound like a girl and get the treatment as if i was a girl due to looking like one>>42195363>theres no escaping itits literally one drug you take. some people just love to suffer
>>42196419Part of it is very severe guilt and feeling unsafe due to stuff from childhood. When I was young I struggled with being androgynous and feeling very unsafe being visibly effeminate.
>>42195090You're just gay
