Becoming aware of meta-attraction mindbroke me. I am no longer comfortable with women, cis or trans, and I even resent a big part of gay men. I only want real attraction but as a man its practically impossible to acquire from women, unless you're a verifiable gigachad, and even then its largely contextual, as evidenced by womens romance novels. To put it plainly, cis women and troons just view men as accessories to their sexuality.How the fuck do I cope?
troon out maybe
>>42196901Yeah it's pretty fucked. As a guy you will never be truly desired
>>42196901once you figure out how to find yourself attractive none of this shit mattersrealize how pathetic you sound right now
>>42196901>I even resent a big part of gay menkind of weird when gay men are the only true androphilic group
>>42197692yeah but a ton of them are essentially female brained. thats why i said "big part", not all.
>>42197724The autosexual bottombrain infects AFaBs but a good smattering of males also gain it, yes
>>42197686shit maybe thats the true red pill. i need to acquire the female brained self obsession to concentrate on myself flexing like patrick bateman in american psycho. youre actually giving me hope. i need to learn to desire and thus validate myself through sheer narcissism.
>straight men can't understand love as anything more than passion and desire because that is all they value in their partnersStraights are so cooked, lmao.I get fucked in the ass by other men and you wouldn't catch me crying about people not thinking I'm pretty enough.Go ahead and be resentful of gay men, trannies often are.
>>42197753this but we call it self love, self care, putting ourselves first, having firm boundaries, etc.the stories we tell ourselves matter
>>42197832shit youre making sense of a lot of female thought processes. tell me more.
>>42196901>i became aware of [thing that doesn't exist] and it mindbroke memany such cases, see reptilians and other conspiracy theories. lmao at this motherfucker who believes meta attraction is a real thing and not a sophisticated cope for insecure gay men.>i-i don't like dick, i only like myself taking dick!!!come on. you have to be genuinely low iq to buy this shit.
>>42196901Ya I'm done dating or sleeping with people who aren't visually aroused and male brained about the whole process. It hurt my feelings a lot. Apparently a lot of cis lesbians and transbians get burned by meta attracted scumbags too. Go buy a dildo machine and look at yourself in the mirror while it fucks you, don't swipe right on my profile and trick me into a relationship without admitting you couldn't jerk off to my physique. I feel sorry for straight men when it comes to this and it's my only MRA tier opinion really.
>>42198015>who aren't visually aroused and male brained about the whole processWhere does this meme originate? Women are attracted to male visuals alright, but they have to be sexy visuals. You're just outing yourself as ugly and/or old.
>>42198025there is no porn for women. in its place you have "novels" and manga. you cant really explain that without admitting that women dont like men purely visually, they always want context.
>>42196901This sucks for us more, just means that men are attracted to us only as long as we're pretty and young. Men fall in love with the visual side of women, women love the whole package.
>>42198059women dont love the package at all, thats the point, they only love themselves, the man is an accessory in helping the woman feel the "right way" at best. its the same way patrick bateman looks at himself flexing his muscles in the mirror while having sex in american psycho.
>>42198051>there is no porn for women>mangaIsn't manga visual? What about thousands of hours of edits on tiktok where actors are shown from different angles? What about terabytes of art?>they always want contextWouldn't this type of attraction be superior to the kind of empty sluttery you seem to elevate where all holes or dicks are interchangeable?
>>42198051>in its place you have "novels"nigga mystified by the concept of imagination and being able to visualize the most attractive person in the world just by reading letters on a page
>>42198084And you are conflating visual attraction with love, yeah we need to feel good to be turned on, so? We feel good with you if we love you as a person, not just loving your dick or jaw or whatever.
>>42198085>Isn't manga visual? yes, and you should try looking at straight manga made by women. its ridiculously female centric. a sex scene will go on for pages without showing the man for one panel. >Wouldn't this type of attraction be superior to the kind of empty sluttery you seem to elevate where all holes or dicks are interchangeable?again, there is a very specific context for it which is all about setting up high status of the man and the desirability of the woman thanks to that, not anything else, most definitely not anything above "empty sluttery".
The idea that all women are AGP is just bullshit that troons say to make themselves feel more "trutrans" and "real woman"Getting upset about this is cringe
>>42198130>And you are conflating visual attraction with loveno, i am associating visual attraction with honest attraction, ie. attraction that transcends the self. a man doesnt need to look at himself in the mirror flexing and masturbating to get off to a woman. he simply desires her for what she is.
>>42198155Yeah, as long as she gets old or whatever
>>42198132>yes, and you should try looking at straight manga made by women. its ridiculously female centric. a sex scene will go on for pages without showing the man for one panel.Too bad most women read yaoi where zero sex scenes show a woman.In straight manga portraying the woman's pleasure serves to help the reader self-insert.>again, there is a very specific context for it which is all about setting up high status of the man and the desirability of the woman thanks to thatBecause in men's manga the main character is never portrayed are the best, the most powerful, the most desirable? Never? No one is blowing smoke up his ass 90% of the time? Pages upon pages are not dedicated to his muscles, dick, and raw masculine power? Kek.
>>42198160it seems youve given up trying to disprove me and are just lashing out in anger.
>>42198179Truly. Nah I just don't agree with you or men in general that the visual attraction is the only true attraction, that's why I am sad that I prefer men.
>>42198177>Too bad most women read yaoi where zero sex scenes show a woman.they show an extremely effeminate man ie. the uke who they self insert as. again, look at the sex scenes and the active man is practically absent. >Because in men's manga the main character is never portrayed are the best, the most powerful, the most desirable? Never? No one is blowing smoke up his ass 90% of the time? Pages upon pages are not dedicated to his muscles, dick, and raw masculine power? Keklmao what are you even talking about, this is just plain cope and denial from someone who is seething.
>>42197920it's just a healthy way to think, i don't think it's necessarily a male/female thing ??... then i see all of the enslaved posters above me and am reminded that most amabs are doomedreturning to my hermitage
>>42196901>>42197662you guys are just ugly. if youre fat, hairy and bald and "manly" in the kind of pig way thats often touted as the peak of manliness then yes it is true that no one actually gets turned on from that kind of looks and any attraction will be meta attraction. however men CAN be beautiful and sexy in the "actually looks hot" way that actually is nice to look at. im not even that into dudes really and yet if someone who looked like picrel told me to lick every square centimeter of his body id get on my knees and thank him for the opportunity
>>42198226forgot pic
>>42198204>they show an extremely effeminate man ie. the uke who they self insert as. again, look at the sex scenes and the active man is practically absent.Anon... I have been a fujo for almost 20 years. Although I mostly prefer 3D pairings. What you are describing is extremely rare and limited to a tiny subtype of fujos. In the absolute majority of cases the favorite character, the one everyone adores and saves photos of, is the bottom. Always. Girls simp for Styles - most fics and art show him bottoming. Girls simp for some Ching Chong singer - he's assigned the bottom slut, gangbanged, and his uwu sovlful eyes stare at you from every page to the point you get nauseous. (You might notice I dislike k-pop)>lmao what are you even talking about, this is just plain cope and denial from someone who is seething.I'm seething a little because you're posting stupid shit.
>>42198244That body carried Marvel as a franchise and you can't convince me otherwise. God bless.
The strangest thing is how angry they get when called out. Like why are you so angry, it is what it is, no use crying about it.
>r9k dedicates years of unpaid labor to calculating the optimal angle of the chad jaw that gets women all excited>but at the same time women are not attracted to visuals, nuh-uhwhich one is it
>>42198331Trannies are mentally ill and believing in Blanchard is the cornerstone of their ideology. 4chan posters are 100x more likely to harbor outlandish ideas. Why are you surprised?
>>42198338why not both? your physical appearance largely influences your social status.
>>42198360>why not both?because those are mutually exclusive. women are not attracted to visuals means that women are either attracted to visuals or not. you can't have both>women are not attracted to visualsand>women go crazy over attractive chad
>>42196901Men are so hot wtf is wrong with you people
>>42198297havent wached any of those but he sure looks good, both face and body. heres another one, imo one of the most beautiful people of all time>>42198353only people with less than 100 iq believe blanchard but 4channers do be like that
>>42198384again, why not both? just consider the way women obsess over mens height. if simply being taller than the woman was important, 5'2 women would lust over 5'6 harder than 5'6 women lust over 6'+ men, but its clearly not the case. women like attractive men because they mog other men more so than they like attractive men for what they are. theres always the context, the relative loser to compare the chad to or otherwise he is no chad at all.
>>42198397>havent wached any of those but he sure looks good, both face and body.You should, especially The First Avenger and The Winter Soldier. They show him off a lot. Legs, ass, chest, the whole package. His combat scenes always have him doing crazy stunts made borderline pornographic by the tightest clothing imaginable.>heres another oneYou have good taste, anon.>>42198467>just consider the way men obsess over women's asses or somethingYou're overthinking it, also doesn't explain why so many women love twinks. Log off and hydrate.
>>42198467nta but how do you not see how that doesnt work? define "attractive" and "mogging" in sucg a way that its completely detached from sexuality. to even be able to tell that someone is attractive, you need to feel attraction. so the attraction to attractive looks cannot come simply from status gained from being attractive, because if it did you wouldnt even be able to tell whos supposed to be attractive and we probably wouldnt even have a concept for attractiveness in men. 4chinners baka my head
>>42198505>You're overthinking it,in other words, please stop looking at womens behavior. sorry but no. >just consider the way men obsess over women's asses or somethingan extremely poor analogy, because a man who likes a womans ass will not suddenly consider it unattractive because he sees an even nicer ass, whereas a woman considers a man he earlier liked worthless when he is mogged by a "superior" man. why not just admit to it ? i really cant understand whats so horrible about it. just admit that womens attraction is fundamentally more context dependent than mens, thats all, why do you feel so frustrated by me poking holes in your counterarguments?
>>42198525to put it simply: women are able to recognize attractiveness in men, but that does not make them sexually attracted. sexual attraction comes from context where the man is superior to other men and thus validates the woman.
>>42198505not gonna watch it cause i find super hero movies cringe and vapid.>You have good taste, anonof course, im an artist and an aesthete after all. im mostly into women, twinks and femboys, but when a man is really good looking i can definitely find the androphile inside me. here's another absolute eye-candy snack>You're overthinking it, also doesn't explain why so many women love twinks.exactly, and im one of the twink lovers. >Log off and hydratepreach sis
>>42198582cant believe i forgot the pic again>>42198580>literally doesnt understand what the word "attractiveness" meansattractiveness is fundamentally based in sexuality. fucking mouth breather
>>42198550>woman considers a man he earlier liked worthless when he is mogged by a "superior" man.you are literally just making shit up. this shit is completelt fucking insane. were not gonna ADMIT something that couldnt be father from REALITY. were frustrated with you because youre incredibly wrong and retarded while insisting youre right. holy shit you need to GO OUTSIDE
>>42198599again just another angry and lashing out person who cant counter any of the arguments i have laid. its difficult for me to understand why you take so much offense to this thread but you do you i guess. just know that you are making an extremely weak case for yourself.
>>42198637please try to overcome your anger and try to explain why, for example, a 5'0 woman is not as attracted to a 5'6 man as a 5'6 woman is to a 6'0 man. could it be because the 5'6 man, despite being physically larger than the woman - actually, proportionally even larger than the 6'0 man is to the 5'6 woman - is shorter than the average man, and thus undesirable? from our interaction this far it has become clear that you are unable to be honest, even with yourself, but please humor me.
>>42198550>in other words, please stop looking at womens behavior.That's not what I said. I said you're overthinking and there wasn't any hidden meaning behind the words. You are deliberately looking for ways to affirm your beliefs by grasping at straws.>whereas a woman considers a man she earlier liked worthless when he is mogged by a "superior" man. That doesn't happen, but I would like to see you try to prove that it does.>>42198582>cant believe i forgot the picGood one, but I was team Jasper Hale.>not gonna watch it cause i find super hero movies cringe and vapid.Kek even though I like them, I really can't disagree. Here's a treat so you don't have to sit through the plot:https://youtu.be/hLUdF8cjzyAhttps://youtu.be/F020aNi0wS0?t=123https://youtu.be/_PECuOvbrMg?t=6
