Pro tip:
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>>42205297
It's an honor to have the hair flap autist in my thread

>>42205275
Are you sure you don't have dysphoria? Why would you bother getting on estrogen if you didn't feel bad about not being on? You say you've quit several times, so why can't you just decide to not get back on if you feel no different? I wouldn't say I feel hugely different, but I would call that feeling of really needing to be on it dysphoria I think.

>>42205275
it's called addiction, sweetheart

>>42205275
yes, in many ways it feels inescapable to me at this point, its like i have no identity so i seek to larp as this.

>>42205515
not them but for me its just more like i failed at being a man so i feel empty and im just filling the void by pretending to be transgender. i think most of my life ive had the feeling that if i act hard enough as something i will become that thing, tried to be a straight guy, tried to be gay, tried to be a femboy and now a tranny. none of them really feel like me.

>>42205515
I am certain I don't have any dysphoria in the traditional sense. Having a male body and social role doesn't actually bother me in any way, and I'm even able to recognize in what ways I'd be considered attractive. In general I'm just very indifferent towards my body, so I don't feel like I'm "damaging" it by using hrt.
I really don't know why I'm even taking it, especially since it does kinda freak me out to think about my future, but currently I just feel like I have nothing to lose by taking it

>>42205666
when normal cis men feel like they've failed their life and feel empty they just kill themselves or become a drug addict. the fact you chose to troon out is because of the fact you're a tranny with tranny thoughts.
>>42205677
no cis man thinks like this

>>42205275
>I transition because I'm in an active state of psychosis

>>42205690
>no cis man thinks like this
What do cis men think like then? Enlighten me please.
Also, in my case it's not even about failing as a man. I could easily be a successful man, but I just don't care about it

>>42205666
>failed at being a man
Yeah idk it's weird for me to think of it just working like that because I could have been incredibly successful as a man if I'd actually wanted to. I'm 6'2" and have a build that could have become muscular and attractive if I'd wanted it at all. I couldn't really pretend to be a straight guy or even just a gay guy because it just didn't work with who I am below the surface. I feel like more of a failure by trying to be a tranny, but somehow this feels less fake than the other stuff.
>>42205677
My future also freaks me out, but I was probably gonna kill myself if I didn't do this. I feel like if you didn't have any problem with a male body and social role and could see it as advantageous at the same time that you wouldn't have done this. If you truly thought that way, why would you take this much more difficult and painful route? At least the people who say they don't have dysphoria but just have a perfect build to succeed as a tranny instead of a man are doing what's easier which makes some sense.

>>42205703
I've considered this possibility. How do I break out of it?

>>42205690
yeah but my tranny thoughts are the result of a long running coping mechanism to avoid suicide that started when i was a teenager. im inventing being transgender because its an oppurtunity to start fresh and discover who i 'really am' rather than have to accept the train wreck of my life isnt going to change from this point. its a useful fiction for me to escape my masculinity and my failure and not me positively seeking out womanhood

>>42205275
I felt doomed to transition and now I feel so much worse and also doomed to detransition

>>42205740
im tall as well but i have a very skinny frail build and i think an ugly face, ive never been hit on by a girl in my life. thats why i think for me a lot of this is just natural selection, my brain realised i would never make it as a man and life would be miserable, but hey if you act like a femboy or troon out maybe ill be lovable. everything that motivates me is negative, nothing to do with being my true self. i have no sense of self at all actually.

>>42205776
Yeah, that sums it up quite well. It's the "what if" that's killing me

>>42205776
and then you detransition and you regret that, and then you transition and you regret that, forever.

>>42205734
>What do cis men think like then?
"man, i could use a hamburger right now"
"wonder what i got in the fridge"
"should ask bob later on if he wants to play arc raiders"
>>42205771
>my tranny thoughts are a result of [cope]
you're a tranny

>>42205841
yeah...

except estrogen is giving me awful health issues...

>>42205804
Yeah idk, I mean I didn't feel attractive as a guy, but in high school there was a girl who very obviously had a crush on me who I tried my best to be nice to without getting her hopes up because I'm only into guys, though I couldn't let people know that. I don't think I had a sense of self then either, but I think I kind of have one now after trooning. I've always been extremely negative about myself no matter what, though. It probably has to do with how I was raised. I really question what would have happened if I was born to an open and accepting family instead. It makes me feel fake all the time.

>>42205927
i think the typical normie story about transition is you grow up sad, then you transition and become who you "really are". but to me every way to look at myself as i "really am" is fake. If I am what I am physically, a man, then I reject that because it feels wrong and cruel to subject myself to, I dont want to be forced into it. But if I transition, thats synthetic, its a decision ive made to go against what is "natural" it doesnt feel like me at all, it feels like im forcing it. But I also feel like I have to force it. Theres no sense of relief at any point other than 'at least im trying to fight back'. I dont expect to ever feel like im secure in who I am.

being a tranny is typically considered a more difficult life than being a cis male, why would transitioning make your life better?

>>42205969
Because being a relatively attractive tranny is a better life than being a loser cis man. If you are bad at being a man, women arent interested in you, other men dont respect you, you have no community at all. If you are trans, you have access to a community, you have your own shared language and belonging. Its much better in many ways so long as you arent a total gigahon

>>42205969
>>42206049
even being an ugly tranny you get access to free, unlimited validation and support. nobody gives a shit about men and the best you'll get is someone offering you to pay them to pay attention to you

>>42205965
>to me every way to look at myself as i "really am" is fake
I think a lot of us feel like that.
>at least im trying to fight back
For me it kind of feels like it at least can't get worse by me becoming even more of a man.
>I dont expect to ever feel like im secure in who I am.
Oh definitely, but it's kind of like which is more worth bothering to live for me. I *want* to actually live if I can. I don't know if I'll ever get there, but I can try.

>>42206049
>>42206089
That's beyond delusional tbhon. Being a tranny is in no way better or easier than being an unsuccessful man. The only people who'd think that are trannies in denial

>>42205969
I've no clue. At this point I'm hoping hrt will make me dysphoric, so I can just stop

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>>42206137
>gets free unlimited sex, attention, validation
>can get free, unlimited money just by posting nudes or posting a gofundme on bluesky
>can enter basically any online space and just say "who want me" with she/her and trans flag in bio and find a girlfriend or boyfriend within minutes
>several massive companies across several media types are wasting millions of dollars trying to represent you better despite you being less than 1% of the population
>can get away with horrific sex crimes because community will protect you and keep silent about them
>cis women are leaping at the opportunity to give up their rights and safety for you
must be hard

>>42206271
>schizoposting

>>42206288
i live in portland, oregon. i see this in my everyday life

>>42206271
you are forgetting all the trans women who don't pass.

>>42205965
I really relate to this, personally I feel like I transitioned mostly just out of spite towards society. Growing up I would always pick up on all the subtle ways I was treated differently because of my sex, I was raised with egalitarian values (nordic) and I couldn't stand it, I developed a deep bitterness against other people and transitioning I feel was my way of trying to regain control over how I was treated. I've been transitioning for almost a decade now and it hasn't really led to anything, genderwise I feel like nothing. Identity seems so superficial and meaningless, it seems like it's all just associations you form as a child. All my feminine interests or behaviors aren't from having a "female soul" or brain, it's because I had a lot of female friends growing up and I formed positive associations of their hobbies. I hated being treated as male because I had formed negative associations with men. I really don't have any strong sense of self, my sense of self seems to just be based on whatever other people treat me as. There's nothing genuine about me at all. I don't think there's anything genuine about anyone. It all seems so arbitrary and meaningless. I wish the adults in my life would've just taught me the values they had instead of the values they wish they had. I wish they hadn't made me internalize values that made me feel like I was being wronged in every social interaction.

>>42206319
there are trans porn stars right now who definitely do not pass whatsoever and they rake in thousands every month anyway

>>42206354
name a girl, I want to see if it's true or your standards are warped

>>42205804
>everything that motivates me is negative, nothing to do with being my true self. i have no sense of self at all actually.
This completely sums me up as a person. I am just a byproduct of my circumstances and my attempts at circumventing any need to actively exist. Life has a lot to offer, but I don't care nor want any of it

>>42206271
damn, guess you should transition then!

>>42206400
icky
>>42206774
nah, not a tranny. just telling things how they are

>>42207044
I think you're delusional, and I also think you should troon out if you are really convinced that trannies have it better than cis men

>>42206049
>Nuking my penis as a strategy to attain sex with women
God's divine Providence keeping incels sexless.

>>42207267
i don't care if they have it better than cis men, i don't want to be a tranny lol. if anything that makes me less delusional than people like you who can't see how good they've got it. i can see how good they've got it and still have no desire to transition, i'd rather be a man and earn respect and validation from my own actions and my own worth than get a free easy ticket to life by taking pills.