sometimes i wonder if i should just cut my losses and just detransition. im an ugly chud who stupidly trooned out as a teenager. maybe should have listened to my parents if i knew this is how it'd turn out>inb4 bdd passoidposted my pics here before and got called an ogrehon. and i look kind of like the chud, if not uglier.
>>42208894hrt rep and get surgeries if u can
>>42208904i don't even think surgeries can salvage me anyway. im pretty nasty looking
>>42208894if you’re actually a chud then detroon please. and kys
>>42208936Kek! This thread is fun.
>>42208945chud as in political leaning or face-wise>>42208952no problem im here all night
>>42208965> chud as in political leaning or face-wiseThere is no difference. Politics of chuds is always the same regardless of what MSM trys to place them as.
>>42209051this man is not a chud, though. he was a gay furry leftie
>>42208894yeah i wish i could have just transitioned into a twink instead of this stupid pretentious larp where i pretend there is any possibility of being a woman
>>42209138the worst part is thinking you ever had hope and putting so much stock into it, only to realize you're ugly as fuck lol
>>42209120> incel> i must kill because [insert pysop]He was a chud. A chuds politics are not exclusively "right wing" What is right wing and left arent even static. Phrenology and physiognomy are not as psuedo science as they want you to believe. The chud physiognomy is more timeless then modern politics.
>>42209255To be honest, that just sounds like an elaborate cope to deny that an insane leftoid shot someone.
>>42209302He is perfectly sane, and he is a leftist
>>42208894Once you detroon you'll realize it doesn't really matter either way. hrt or no hrt its all the same.
>>42208894Become a vagbro?
>>42209302> insane leftoidBut im not denying that... well i am arguing against the left label, but only so far as im arguing against the right label for other shooters as well. They all have identical phenotypes, its uncanny. Id be incredibly shocked and would rethink my existence if they two had objective psych profiles done and there wasnt massive overlap. Its superficial what they are politically motivated by, and completely inline otherwise in their actions and reactions to society or others.
>>42209421I have chud phenotype and I agree
>>42209421It's real in both men and women
>>42209493Incredible. They really need to rethink bringing back phenology into modern studies. I will say its massively attractive phenotype on women though. Id also bet most female chuds kill less and cause less negative societal impact. Which leads me to the conclusion, transition a chud = saves lives. Ironically the actual trans shooters I have not seen the chud phenotype.
>>42209421 >>42209396“ identical phenotypes “
>>42209396become a vagbro?my guy.id just be a bro
>>42209627Transitioning could have saved her and all those innocent lives.
>>42209664If he was trans he would be a rapehon. I’m in the tcc and it feels like everyday they are labeled trans reppers or homosexual. This was used to try to demonize homosexuals since columbine especially when they tried to say Dylan was bi because of his original nbk plan that he gave up on with doing with a girlfriend and did with Eric.
>>42209868Transitioning lowers T levels and makes people less aggressive and less violent. This is objective science. Them being actually trans would make them happier as well, but either way decreases societal harm.
>>42209987I never had violent tendencies, but I will argue I did more societal harm as a tranny for the simple reason that I actually engaged with society to begin with as a tranny.Before transition I was a sad neet incel.
>>42210199> sad neet incelWhat are you now? A happy job and sex haver? Otherwise you never changed
>>42210279nta but yes, that is how my life changed after starting to transition
damn, my thread got completely hijacked lol>>42210279transitioning made me a sad NEET incel desu
>>42210301Why are you a neet incel? I get that it can be hard to get a job as a tranny, but there's no reason to be an incel
>>42210354NEET? because im autistic and retarded and lazy. incel? because im ugly. ironically trying to transition made me realize that even more and completely disillusioned me lol. before then i didn't care about any of this stuff and was much more carefree
>>42210386If that's true, I'm sorry for you. I guess whether or not you should detransition depends on why you did it in the first place. Assuming you're right about your looks, do you think you'd be happier being an ugly man than an ugly mtf? btw are you boymoding or girlmoding?
>>42210459"boy"moding, of course. why would i want to ruin my self esteem even further by putting on a circus act? ive already been recognized, you know. and it wasn't fun.but nevertheless, if im transitioning to be a mannish, hideous "woman", living in an everyday constant reminder of my failure, i don't see what's the point in that. part of me thinks it would be better to lift the weight of expectations off my shoulders and simply become a man full time. at least it is acceptable for a man to be sub-par.
>>42210574Yeah, maybe that would work. Depends on how you were feeling before you transitioned I guess. You must have had a reason to go for it though right? And getting hrt as a teenager isn't that easy. Do you think what drove you then would be bearable now?
>>42210621you know, when i think back on it, i think maybe it was simply nothing more than foolish teenager curiosity. the desire and yearning to have what women had was definitely there, but i think finding out that you could transition made my young, naive mind that it was simply the natural conclusion. if i had known better though, i might've not done it. it wouldn't have ended my world. and in fact now, i think maybe i'd be better off a man now as well than whatever i'm trying to transition into. in fact, part of me thinks that being a man might not be so bad. another part of me thinks that perhaps this situation is salvageable, but then my body begs to differ.
>>42210704You can stop hrt any time and see how you feel. Getting back on it if you don't like it is just as easy since you already have a prescription. So you can just try it out, no big deal right?
>>42210750prescription? haha.but anywho. i would, but then again i have this fear that if i get off HRT and i start masculinizing, i'll regret it because what if my situation is indeed somehow salvageable? even knowing that it's completely hopeless, i cling onto the possibility in desperation (mostly FOMO). i guess i'd have to be completely sure about it. but also, i think the more rational part of my mind already knows that i'm not making the right call by trying to keep this up.
>>42210790You're not going to significantly masculinize from going off it for two or three weeks. Should be enough for you to know if you can cope with running on T again
>>42210852why? there's no difference running on T vs running on E. only energy levels, perhaps.
>>42210864There is definitely a difference, lmao. How long have you been on hrt? Are your levels ok?
>>42210904some 2 years, some 300-400pg/ml. there is absolutely no difference between running on and off T in my experience.
>>42210929Well then it should be an incredibly easy decision to go off hormones for you
>>42211000it would, if not for, y'know, the anxiety that comes with that decision.
>>42208894Is transitioning just a meme then? Keep taking it and you become and stay girly. Stop taking it and the progress just...rolls back?
>>42211040>you become girlyuhhhh...
>>42211030What is there to be anxious about if there's no difference?
>>42211107because im anxious about masculinizing? refer to >>42210790.
>>42211126So then there is a difference, one will masculinize you and the other won't? So if you don't want that, just stay on hrt, problem solved >>42211040If you stop hrt and haven't had the balls removed then yeah, some things revere. That doesn't make it a meme though
>>42211178but methinks it's also this irrational fear that is keeping me trapped in this delusion. i think i need to give it some time over and think about whether or not i seriously want to detroon fully
>>42211178What about the physical changes? I know the gyno boobies may remain, but what about the shrunken balls and the feminine jiggly fat distribution and whatnot
>>42211469They all go away. Its important to stay on hrt if you don't want that
>>42211493Amazing. I thought at least some of those changes would be quite permanent.
>>42211566nope, not if you keep your balls. and even if you remove them, stopping hrt will cause menopause symptoms and give you osteoporosis. if you do this, you're in it for life