i don't think i'm good looking enough for my own standards to bother with anything related to this and my transition is really not going very well for mei'm looking for an argument against doing this, because i sit and it bothers me all day. it's not healthyif i decide to show my face then don't do any of this super lightweight, super low standards, "you'll look fine" gas lighting BS
post measurements i bet ur like 5'7"
>>422153525'8"i don't have measurements, i'm baby trans anyway (5-6 mo.)
>>42215362the first year is the hardest. keep your head down keep the boymode hoodie on keep voice training and working on surgeries etc
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>>42215390is it worth it to do these things when there are more important goals to be focusing on? surgery is expensive and superficial, no? i never really wanted to become a full woman, just something in-between which is why i'm already at odds with some people in the trans community (this community esp)couple this with the fact that i've tried t4t dating and it was a pretty hard reject both times i tried i don't see why i should pour more time into these aspects of my life if i might not ever see any return
>>42215450>surgery is superficialnot for those of us that aren't good looking enough for our own standards>the fact that i've tried t4t dating and it was a pretty hard reject both times i triedoh my god. you are 6 months in. please pace yourself. t4t does not become not shit until you are years in to trooning nona. you are not going to stop hating yourself until you do things about the things you hate about yourself.
>>42215340Just stop trying to play God with your hormones and body, and live a healthy natural life instead.Marry a woman and have biological children and have an easy nice safe comfortable effortless life without spending hundreds of thousands of dollars getting surgeried up and spending months in hospitals etc. There's every reason in the world to not do it and nothing at all to gain from doing it, just take the healthy easy route instead and have a nice life. Should be easy right?
>>42215534this man has never had good sex in his life
>>42215534>boards dot 4chan dot org slash lgbtokay faggot
>>42215516>t4t does not become not shit until you are years in to trooning nona.this person i was with was just starting to grow tits on prog, we were at the similar start points and they did not fuck with me by the end of the date. were telling me about how they didn't want to date anyone else because they didnt feel like it was "right" with them. people with such standards like that, where they reject literally everyone except the top .1% are soul crushing. this person was similar to me and they totally wiped me off afterwards>>42215534no this isn't a good argument for me, i'm too homosexual for that and i don't care about "natural", humanity is currently doing "natural" things
>>42215625humanity is not doing "natural" things
>>42215625so get hotter nona
>>42215674>bone density Lol you hondosed yourself
>>42215693im a newfag and even i know thats bait
>>42215685i don't know how that's... physically possible? I'm at my max pretty much aside from muscle development. genuinely perfect diet, low body weight... I mean makeup works i guess>>42215674bone density and thyroid are fine, bodies deteriorate at some point anyway.>genitals self destructing inevitablyi don't want kidsmore pressing issue is the fact that this DIY HRT is a pain in ass. nobody knows i do HRT. my parents don't know, my roommate doesn't know, doctor doesn't know. and it's actually barely working. today the sweaty testosterone smell came back so i know that my levels are somehow fucked even though i dose slightly high and it's stressing me out and distracting me constantly
>>42215746>weight cycling>pio cycling>waist training>HAVING GOOD LEVELS FOR YEARS BECAUSE THATS HOW LONG CHANGES TAKE>surgeries to make u hotter>voice training>getting a fashion senseim sorry but saying ur peaking at 6 months is crazy work nona u sound a little silly.
>>42215777i feel that these things are at odds with my other goal in life, which is to contribute meaningfully to society (like ACTUALLY contribute by improving life for others not working some dead desk job), if i worry about these things then maybe it'll be distracting me from my greater, more meaningful goals. and if i don't achieve those goals? then i don't deserve anything more than a bare bones basic existence.it feels like a debt i have to pay (and i do have actual monetary debts to pay, also so succeeding in life is actually important here)>>42215801>Ok. With arguments like that you may as well commit suicideare you not aware that no matter what you do your body will fall to shit in the end anyway? you only prolong the inevitable. i don't want to live to 70 or 80 that blows>>42215814most convincing argument in the thread, actually. let me think about this
>>42215857u can be a tranny and a person at the same time nona its not one or the other. you trooned out in the first place its not like u could cut it as a cis person anyway. it was gonna happen no matter what. cis people arent dysphoric nona
>>42215872>its not one or the otherI feel like if i quit then i have nothing else that could possibly distract me from my main goal of improving society or trying my hardest to do so. sort of forces an all or nothing situation for me, where i have nothing else to live for
>>42215888if feel like i'm going crazy, but if things don't work out between transitioning and trying to do my best in my circumstances then i don't really deserve to be happyif, on the other hand, i give up and go all in on my career, stop thinking about all these things like looking good (which again is kind of superficial) or why my hrt isn't really going well, or any of the dating games that are going on where i constantly just get rejected then i might actually have a chance to do genuinely do something or at least die happy knowing i tried as hard as i could
>>42215924ehhh, i'm not dying young. i'm fitter than like 95% of americans>At that point nothing you do matters and nobody has a reason to care or convince youwell no, i want to do something meaningful! and then maybe commit suicide when i have absolutely nothing more to meaningfully contribute or give
>>42216197why would i be farming for attention here of all places, i just want people to tell me to stop. >>42215814 was a good argument because they said no one really cares about you at all and your future is entirely up to you. so if you throw everything away and reset to refocus then no will care. just the exact same as if you continued to take estrogen. nobody cares at all. so if i want to do something meaningful, no one is gonna hold my hand or make it easy (which it isn't, its not easy to do something meaningful it requires a lot of sacrifice) most other arguments like "go be hetero and marry a woman and have kids" or "believe in god" or whatever don't work because i've already 100% made up my mind on those things and i can't be swayed
>like that dude who was posting about living in the trunk of his car and posting his large cock eventually started spamming every thread with “help me detroon” and he never did and was never genuine.i'm sorry, what that caught me off guard haha>>42216381shit you have a point, actually. i'll stop it's 4 am anyways
I think if you seriously want to detransition you need to go about it like another transition, just in reverse. Now since you failed your transition who is to say that you won't fail at detransition too? You will be stuck neither here nor there, think about it.
>>42215340If you drop it I'll be real with you, but I want to know:have you had ffs?how long you have been on hrt?
why not just go to therapy instead?
