Mtf, 19, I pass pretty good lately and don’t really get clocked anymore which I’m really happy about Only thing is that I’ve started to get male attention occasionally. I like this (since I like men) but I’m kind of scared of actually *dating* men as a tranny I don’t want to put effort into talking to a guy, come out to him when things start heating up, and be met with "oh EW you’re A GUY" or "that’s okay I’ve always wanted to try a penis" or something like that. I want to be treated and dated and fucked like a girl who was born a girl. Is this even in the realm of possibility until surgery? Do I become celibate? How do I find a good guy that isn’t a repper or a creep… I just want my husband honestly
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>>42216714> I want to be treated and dated and fucked like a girl who was born a girlSadly without srs is not possible there are a lot of guys that want nothing to do with the dick if that’ll work for you but be safe anon it’s dangerous so you gotta learn how to pick em
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>>42216791Yeah :( the ideal guy just sort of ignores it… honestly anytime my dick gets attention during sex it just doesn’t feel like anything. I think the dysphoria really overrides any nice-ness and the fact I kind of feel like I have a "phantom limb" vagina underneath doesn’t really help either :(I really hope I can find a good guy. I’ve been so lonely and needy lately and all I’d like in the world is a guy to be really nice and gentle with me. It’s not even about the sex it’s just about a nice and sweet and hot man holding me and cooing nice things in my ear. I want to be in a normal-ish relationship with a boy, where I am not a novelty
>>42216811Nta but this is definitely achievable :) there's tons of sweet guys out there who aren't goonbrained, just always listen to your gut and you'll save yourself alot of heartache.Id also recommend against dating apps if you live in an urban area, even if you see a guy on there who's super hot, it's totally right to be skeptical as why he needs to use the app in the first place. Go out and do hobbies and talk to people, even if it isn't with the intention of getting a boyfriend. this might clear up the difficulty a bit, as you probably already know that dating apps are a cycle of talking stage > ghost anyways.A good guy will ask you straight up before you have sex (if he's aware that you're trans) if you like being touched down there, you just say no and you both enjoy it anyways.Best of luck nona, in a similar boat at the moment but a thing to cherish is your own company during trying times, still enjoy your life to the fullest.
>>42216811> I really hope I can find a good guy.It’s very possible so many people on this board have boyfriends or husbands it gives me a lot of hope for the future honestly good luck anon
>>42216714same here, all the guys okay with a tranny are there for "unfamiliar sensations" fuck the goonbrains, where are all the normal men? oh yeah, they wouldnt date a tranny cause they want children and see us as men
>>42216714Answering this as a 26 year old guyEven if you get very horny, please keep yourself safe and don't get involved with any random guy that just wants to use you or will get violent-I think for that feeling it's either surgery or meet or a guy who's VERY progressive(hard but doable)-Avoiding creeps and reppers? I could talk about both, which one do you want first?
>>42216990Reppers first maybe. I feel like I have a good idea of how to avoid creeps but I feel like a lot of guys I’ve been into in the past have all transitioned…. The idea that a "man" would only want to be with me to imagine being me is kind of upsetting
>>42217142Upsetting but a lot more common than you would think among trans girls, pay attention to stuff they like or their social media, or how they talk about trans related topics or even stuff related to clothing, appearance and more But the hints are there, frequently talking about LGBT topics, complimenting transitioning parts, insecurity in their masculinity
>>42216714>be met with "oh EW you’re A GUY" or "that’s okay I’ve always wanted to try a penis" or something like that.I mean realistically it's gonna be one of those two reactions. Or a third reaction that's basically the same as the second "that's cool I'm into it"
>>42216714snipping something off would help a lot..how would you get fucked like a girl when there's no hole to do it in?
>>42216714your best bet is to ask about a guy's political worldview early on. if he's progressive, a demsoc, a commie, or something like that he'll probably be safe. Right-wing guys will absolutely not treat you well once they find out.
>>42216714youre seeing some conflicting opinions here, let me just give my own as a cis guy. ive met some really beautiful girls during my life and ive hit it off very well with them. but i just dont trust modern medicine with the current SRS procedures. its simply not advanced enough. Ive seen too many horror stories around it. i've lost a partner because i loved her so dearly and i treated her just like my wife, and i was even hoping to marry her. and she wanted to marry me too. but she was so focused on getting SRS, it was just a dealbreaker for me. i dont know you so idk if we'd do well together, but if i assume we'd click perfectly, the dealbreaker for me would be u wanting SRS. unless there was some magical wish that gave you all the correct organs and whatnot and had no issues or drawbacks. then yeah, i would not get in ur way. but as it is rn? i just cant agree for my potential wife to do that.
>>42216714>born male>want to be treated like you were born a girlwhy are troons so DELUSIONAL
>>42216714No sane man will ever want to get out with a plastic pussy owner. I bet you will lie forever about your vagena and pretend you can't have kids for some reasons. Getting a putrid hole down there won't help you.
I want this too. Was dumped about a month ago.I am passing, stealth in most places. Klinefilters, 5'6.Getting SRS Janurary of next year>>42216834mainly wanna hear from you. Im canadian, in a somewhat conservative traditional area. I have hobbies, I make my own money; and at least its said i give great head. Ass training is a bitch for me tho.Should I try/can i try? How should I try? I do reading, writing, music, and skate/ski. how would i find a guy with those
>>42216714>I don’t want to put effort intotgirls in a nutshell
>>42221052how did u get dumped? you seem like a nice person and u have hobbies. ur def making an effort to find a partner.
>>42216811>>42216714If you're near Seattle sure. I'll need you fully caged though all the time unless you are showering or using the restroom.
>>42221489L rizz, jfc
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>>42221617lol
>>42221626Thanks for the (You) kind nona
>>42221463i have a lot of anxiety due to PTSD and needed reassurance more than i probably should and needed to be less dependant i guess
>>42222556there's nothing wrong with needing reassurance. after all, good relationships require a back and forth between both people. ultimately, if u cant depend on your partner who will u depend on? i think u just ran into a guy who was not super understanding of ur situation. i got a q for u tho, what would ur ideal partner be like? regardless of how realistic those ideals are or not
>>42216714I'm a married tranny. This year we'll have our 10th anniversary.Here's some truths: Your best bet are bisexual guys. Your online hugboxes will try to sell you delusional expectations but they're just wrong.Bisexual guys are almost by default attracted to us if we pass.>I want to be treated and dated and fucked like a girl who was born a girlYou can't get that in a hook-up, I'm sorry.You can only get that once you fall in love with each other.I hooked up with my husband because I needed a good fuck. But we ended up together because our personalities were too good for each other.This is my advice: Invest in your personality first and foremost.Life is more than just sex. Get good voice, learn feminine mannerisms. Learn to be charming. Your looks will fade away, but your personality will make or break all your future relationships. Make that one really good.I have a dim view of SRS but you do you. Still, whatever you do, absolutely avoid the mentality of "i can't do this until I get X". That kind of mentality is cancer. And it will lead to you wasting precious years.Enjoy life. Live it!>>42219441I already didn't believe in SRS (roughly for the same reasons as you), but hearing my husband opine on it sealed the deal too.I'd love for the tech to advance. But it probably won't happen in my lifetime.
>>42222730yeah but i guess it felt like i was needing it too much? We dated for almost 3 years were talking about engagement, but yeah.I guess I asked for too much.Ultimately; its not much expectation? Like i expect him to have a job, to have passions and hobbies beyond video games (though id love to play with him) maybe be a lil pretty, be willing to do outdoors and debate, but also be cozy.Emotionally I would want him to be caring, but someone that will allow me to care for him. Someone i can truely trust theres guys i know like this but...dont fuck your coworkers.
>>42219343homo anal adventures
>>42222878the way ur describing him sounds like he just sat at home playing video games all day lmao. 3 entire years tho.. yeesh.i have heard of some well to do people ending up in relationships with bad people just because its stable enough. its comfy enough. but just being enough sometimes aint what you need, you need a partner who fulfills YOU as well. u prolly spent more time fulfilling his desires and playing by his rules rather than it being a thing both of u worked towards. am i wrong?
>>42223018nono he was good a lot. like a lot of what i want in a partner is like him. but i was a boymoder when we started. he just i guess wanted more independance? we both had uni, then jobs, he was into football, going on hikes, reading. he was what i wanted you know?but yeah i guess i spent a lot of self worth and care playing by his wants sure. Cleaning, changing myself and my aesthetic - but that did push me to girlmode. And he was generally kind to me. But all i would want is someone kinda like him - maybe more creative and whimsical? but mostly someone more caring and willing to just spend time with me and be dependable
>>42219441im glad there are some men who feel the same as me, i really wish i had a vagina and could have children but i dont feel like srs would make me feel better with how primitive it is, im just apathetic to my dick and dont think id enjoy it being focused on or touched or etc
>>42216811Lol, lmaoI would see you coming a mile away.
>>42216714You're way more likely to find that being a non-op. Part of the problem is that you're young and most of those types of guys are late-20s to early-30s.
>>42223169if ur with someone for 3 years, but looking back the first stuff u mention is more bad than good, its a sign that things were never that great. that's all im saying. >and he was generally kind to methe bare minimum in a relationship you mean? hahahah. at the very least youre out of it now and got new horizons to look for. ive faced the same issue as you funnily enough. but from the other direction. im a dude and i want a gf/wife. but a lot of them lack ambition, drive, or any actual hobbies that will enrich or develop their life. gaming can be fun, and i game a ton as well. but life is more than that. i have yet to meet a girl who actually has a bucket list of things that she wants out of life, yknow? >>42223185the human body is impossibly complex. especially reproductive organs and genitals. humans just aint that far enough right now to recreate all of that imo.
>>42217161How do you know so much about this vro
>>42223348>i have yet to meet a girl who actually has a bucket list of things that she wants out of life, yknow?really? i thought everyone had one of those, maybe they do but they just give them up
>>42223348maybe. idk. im a bit heartbroken by it. it was mostly good but since october it had been going downhill.>the bare minimumlook trans girlies that doesnt usually apply to. its kinda expected at least a little verbal or physical abuse. And thats kinda why im scared to do it, to trust anyone?re third point, i guess i tend to see that w chronically online tgirls, a lot of popular/pretty cisgirls, and 'hsts'. shit ik thats most of people though sorry. I know what I aim for in my life - mainly career wise but i do want kids, and i want to publish the book ive been writing. career does depend on politics over the next few years tho. you sound good anon. wish you luck, and wish more guys were like this. im sure youll find someone. hell if you were in like Eastern Canada id consider dating u. alas. unless your gaming is like league of legends or whatever.then skill issue i suppose.
>>42223348Could be subconsciously making excuses to avoid committing to a woman because you prefer children.
>>42223442had one of what? a bucket list? Im sure everyone does, but i mean a list that's more substantial. something that shows the person put thought into it, or smth that shows wwhy its significant to that person.>>heartbrokengoing downhill? how so, if you dont mind me asking.I get the trust part. for me, ive always looked somewhat imposing being more masculine and muscular. so ive never had that issue of fear or safety. but i can imagine how it is for others.>hell if you were in like Eastern Canada id consider dating u. alas.well. according to google i am in eastern canada lol. Toronto area. i dont live exactly downtown, but im like a 30 min drive from it.i dont like league lol. my friends have always asked me to play it, but they seem downright miserable playing it. so i stick to other stuff.>>42223537i dont want a partner for the sake of children. i want a partner who i can enjoy raising children with. that's a big difference anon. adoption is still a thing. so is surrogacy.
>>42223969>downhillIn early october he went for wisdom teeth removal, and being cooped at home was i guess fustrating. some yelling and arguments. I was getting ready for work one morning and i guess horny whatever. kinda grabbed me a bit when i told him not to. ended up late for work and i found out that he had been bitching about me that morning to a (girl) friend of mine which i tried to talk to him about. was a dumb arguement but it still hurt.the trust shit doesnt super matter on body type ya know? My rapist was a skinny asian guy, a close friend is a 200ilb buff dude. Its about the guy inside. >Toronto Ewww. Went to UoT hated the place. I meant maritimes for me. Halifax.What do ya play?Whats on your bucket list?
>>42224311the way ive seen any problems in relationships is like this: it shouldn't be me versus u, it should be us versus the problem. sounds corny asf but that's how it should be ideally. ive always been a laissez faire person, im not controlling. i dont get people who say they want partners who are super obsessive or super clingy, just shows ya got some unresolved issues. do i wanna be close with my partner? ofc. but what if i gotta go for work somewhere. or what if i want to spend some time with my friends, but then my partner flips out and doesnt want me to be with anyone but her. I suppose what i mean is a lot of people nowadays arent mentally well adjusted lmao.>its about the guy insidethe rectum eh? you didnt strike me as a top. youre not super close to me if ur in halifax, its a 15 hour drive. but i suppose it aint too far via train. as for what i play, i play mostly shooters. grew up playing TF2, and then Overwatch, briefly played marvel rivals and now i play a lot of deadlock. but aside from those ive played almost all popular multiplayer games. story games, horror games, survival games, etc. i love me some modded MC as well. there's prolly more, i just cant give u the whole spill without u asking something specific. what about yourself?the bucket list is veeery large. and some of it is quite personal to me. i dont mind explaining why, but not publicly. perhaps if we add each other somewhere down the line then ill tell ya.
>>42224448bro got ghosted lmaooooo
>>42224448>the rectumwoowwww meanie. no lmao. sometimes personalitieis, many times their dick.>obsessive partners and workingso i can sometimes be a little needy for attention yeah but like. i have a job. i have hobbies. i have (some) friends. i get it yk? Just i do like communication and a little bit of priority. >trainI just got a car, and im probably moving to Ottawaish in like early 2027 soo>gamwshmmm idk about that. my mains probably like...mmos and stardew? im not great at shooters thowhat about no mans sky and space shit?i get it with bucket list. ill give some of mine tho!THIS YEARSucceed on international work trip in marchGet the car and drive by AprilRun a 24km in SummerWrite to chapter 20 of my book in summer (1 year since start)Get a job promotion in December.Wider!Fall in LoveVacay in Switzerland and go the renaissance cafeGet a sailing dinghy and race locallyfinish the book and send to publisherslearn chineseUse my sewing machine to cosplay Vivy (Vivy) and Asuka (Magical Girl Spec Ops)Adopt KidsLead scouting
>>42225368lol no. had to go help a friend out. psa yall. dont drink 3 sweet cocktails without water. and no fishbowls. and certainly don't only eat your dates fries the entire timehockey fans are SO dumb.
>>42216714how tall are you, guessing 5'8
>>42221052>I am passing, stealth in most places. Klinefilters, 5'6.>Getting SRS Janurary of next yearwhy do you people come to my misery board and say shit like this
>>42221617sauce immediately
>>42225368clearly this is ur first rodeo lil bro >>42225418poor lad, personality is such a secondary thing ya can’t even spell it right. tsk tsk many such cases>i can be a little needy it all depends on the partner then. if ur needs are communicated to em and they reciprocate, then there’s no issue. esp if i do enjoy talking to and spending time with them, then what is the word clingy if not a synonym for “good relationship” ottawa was honestly miserable probably because i’d go during the dead of winter. i was in gatineau. it was quite amusing to see groups of tall ppl goin for morning runs. >get the car and drive by aprilso do you not know how to drive currently? as in you will learn by april?>wider if u mean you want a fatter bunda, i could give u pointers. i workout myself and ive build a good body. of course some parts are blessed by god and for that im eternally thankful. but long story short, i accidentally built a real nice ass for myself. it’s balanced out now since i got muscle, but it was funny seeing my ass barely fit in pants since the cheeks were too bountiful.i also used to write, but id not like the quality of it and just throw away or delete the writings. i wish i kept them so i could read them, i know id look back on them fondly. i have never admitted this to anyone irl but i always like to think of my story a little bit before i sleep. an ever growing world of characters and situations and plot lines. but i’ll probably never pen it, i ain’t talented enough for that. switzerland is on my bucket list but mostly for the summer. there’s some beautiful mountains up there that i want to hike on. as well as some cliffs i’d like to climb. they have those spots where it’s just small metal bars drilled into the wall. and you walk along those. no platforms, no railings, just a you, a few thin metal bars and a drop that’s several hundred feet. >learn chinese u mean mandarin, you silly girl oops,2k limit reached
>>42225742>mandarin. no. cantonese. fuck you. idk where the hardline is though ya know? I would want to live with my partner yk? Like even kinda early.Ontatio kinda sucks generally at winter. >carnono i can drive. just no car, and i wanna drive more, be self sufficient.meant wider as in 'Wider timefram goals'Tho nicer ass would be nice. I think you should try to continue to write! I started writing stories for my younger sister bc she had issues sleeping and it went from there. Do what you wish from it, just give a shot. At least jot your story out in a notebook. Characters, plot ect yk?>SwissYeahhh the mountains are the big part for me. The history, the beauty (and skiing)Have a nice night!
im too tired to read. can someone give me the tldr of this thread it seems interesting.
>>42225872while i’d love to respond seems like you’re off to sleep. if the thread is still around by tomorrow morning, maybe you can give me a response on whether or not you wanna continue talking elsewhere? i don’t know you all that well but i feel like i’d want to. you seem an interesting critter. sleep well.
>>42226027Fags flirting what else is new
>>42216714Go to a local university. You’ll find someone there
>>42226044immm aliveeeeunsure whats the best way to share contact info tho? i have discord insta..email?
>>42216714here's what I did also at 19, been together for 4 years now, very pleased>be me>transfaggot living through early rona>lonely af and self-hating>want to find love to fill the hole>decide to try dating apps>advertise self as femboy>have one night stand with a gay guy>reveal I'm trans over text the next day>get told he's ok with it :D>immediately ghosted after the conversation>fuck.jpeg>find another guy on the app>he is married and reveals this to me during our first date>walk out on him>get off that gay dating app because everyone is only interested in casual sex and I'm tired of getting 12 dick pics a day>even more fem looking now thanks to HRT, but still advertise self as femboy>go on okcupid, no responses>go on hinge, after a month of no luck I meet a boytoy who never commits to anything, after two months of texting finally end up telling him to either meet me in person or fuck off (in kinder language ofc)>he fucks off>end up going on bumble>swipe right on cute looking bearded guy, handsome with a bit of nerd energy>end up talking, actually really enjoy his company>gradually reveal that I'm not just a femboy but on HRT and probably trans>he says he's bi so he's cool with whatever my gender is>after a few months we meet up for a ramen date>he asks me to be his gf>say yes>never once regret itbeen living stealth for a few years now toorepublican family is pretty accepting thanks to me having a bf, makes the whole trans thing easier to comprehend and swallow
>>42219441How can someone just say something this?? I'm sorry I'm not trying to guilt trip you specifically or lash out it's just too close to things I've experienced. How can someone tell you that they love you but they just need you to swallow poison everyday. If I could never get srs I think I would just slowly die inside. I hope in the future you just end things immediately because it's just cruel to offer love like that. Especially because I would get desperate enough to do it; just hope I can magically get numb to hurting myself again and again.
>>42228213howdy. i’m awake as well now. sh_51_directional_shieldthat’s my discord.
>>42228213oh yeah email works too benstillerfaggot69@verizon.net
>>42229810addeddd>>42229839im not emailing that tho