>at gay bar sitting with theyfab best friend>cis lesbian approaches friend >Gesturing to me "is that your boyfriend?">"No haha he's my long time best friend">"Oh thank God"This all happened right in front of me as if I didn't even exist. Apparently I'm so ugly that the idea of dating me is embarrassing and insulting. Is there any reason I shouldn't just kill myself at this point?
the cis lesbian just wants to fuck your theyfab bestie and if you and your friend were dating the lesbian wouldn't have been interested, it has nothing to do with you being ugly but you're definitely an insecure retard which is probably the real reason no one wants to fuck you
>>42235588It sounds like she was trying to ascertain if your friend was open to hit on tbdesu
>>42235643>>42235635>Saying "Oh thank God" is perfectly acceptable in this situationWomen are very emotionally intelligent btw. It's clearly insulting to the friend, which is a shitty way to flirt (that is if women actually ever gave a thought to the emotions of their male friends). Aso presumptuous and kinda creepy toward the woman she's trying to hit on (though of course lesbians seem to get away with anything).
>>42235712It's weird too because the lesbian was there with another girl and they were clearly horny for each other so idk why she was hitting on my friend in the first place. Are lesbians just men in female bodies?
>go to gay bar>safe space for gay men>women come in to talk down to you and treat you like shitis there nowhere in the world safe from women
>>42235843and it's not like I can go to straight bars either because the women and men there are even worse>>42235635how are they supposed to know that if I've never even talked to them?
>>42235712>be horny lesbian>at the gay bar>straight couple at the bar>why the fuck are these straighties here>go up to the one with tits>ask if she's straight aka if the boy sitting next to her is her boyfriend>they tell me they use they/them pronouns and he's not my boyfriendhey OP if this felt like a punch in the gut to get ignored by a woman in this context, i used to have a theyfab best friend who i followed around like a sad puppy. we split apart for a while and when we met again i was a woman and i helped him transition into a man. you might be nonbinary (like i was) but thats not reading in your presentation. changes can be made
taking this as a personal insult when in reality the lesbian wanted to fuck your friend without a man getting in her way. lesbians think all men are ugly stfu retard
your own fault for bringing a theyfab to a gay bar
>>42235961You kinda got me, I'm amab planning on attempting transitioning again. My issue is that surely I shouldn't have to go change my appearance just to not be treated like shit in an "accepting" space like a gay bar >>42236019Is there a reason they have to be so openly disrespectful though?>>42236044Nowhere else in town where we can sing showtunes at karaoke
>>42236148>Is there a reason they have to be so openly disrespectful though?no cares about you or your feelings retard, just get over it instead of expecting the whole world to hold your hand
>>42236398women will say this and then throw a fit when an ugly guy dares to exist in their presence
>>42235588its probbly cuz she didnt wanna see a straight couple in a gay bar, ur the one being weird abt it
>>42236460men will find problems where there are none and then imagine a woman in their own mind they can project all their rage onto because obviously the solution to not getting laid is misogyny
>>42236460If you don't let women emotionally abuse and dehumanize you for fun you are an evil woman beating misogynist killer
>>42235588Rude as FUCK of them to say that with your friend around jesus christ women just do not care
>>42236576
>>42236530Neither of us are straight and we weren't acting like a couple besides sitting next to each other>>42236558Why wouldn't I be a misogynist when they give me so many reasons not to trust them
>>42236600They don't have to care.What are you going to do, shame them?Make yourself look like a whining misogynist?It is very important to reward any type of behavior in women because they are empowered and pure and even if they rape you or whatever, we can just blame a man somehow
>>42236148she didnt treat you like, shit, she treated you like a man because you were dressed as a man and spoke like a man and reacted like a man. if you dont want to be percieved as a man, then you must stop performing masculinity
>>42236635if you don't trust women then why does this bother you so much, if you didn't want that dyke's attention because you don't trust women you wouldn't be crying about how disrespected you feel on 4chanmost women who claim to not trust men aren't exactly going around crying when a gay guy chooses to flirt with her male friend instead of her because they feel ignored and disrespected, most women would be relieved in a scenario like thatyou're making a mountain out of mole hill and ruining literally any chance you had to have a good time at the bar with your friend by doing this because instead of maybe remembering the fun time you had at the bar with your friend you'll remember fighting random retards on 4chan
>>42236576That's the conclusion I've come to after that night>>42236600They genuinely don't see men and autistic people as human
>>42236705kill yourself
>>42236750Silence, femrepper
>>42236683Or maybe she could stop being a rude bitch>>42236750You first>>42236701>why are you bothered by being treated like subhuman trash in a space that's supposed to be accepting
>>42236792you're the rude bitch.
>Gay bar>Woman approaches your female friend>Woman is thankful your female friend is not dating the man she broughtOk.
>>42236810Oh wait are you MtF? Assuming you are male from the image. If you're trans then damn, rip.
>>42236792hey, news flash, GAY BARS ARE FOR FUCKING. they're not "accepting spaces," they're FOR FUCKING. she is using the gay bar correctly and you're being a comphet asshole
>>42236773at least i am a woman, you'll always want what comes to me naturally
>>42236814nah. he's just a repper who's living vicariously through his theyfab friend. he wants lesbians to be able to read his mind and see to the sapphic little bitch in his heart but nobody can do that cuz he's too annoying right now
>>42236819Why couldn't she fuck the girl she was already with that night slapping each other's asses instead of hitting on my friend and insulting me for no reason?
>>42236870you're just mad she's getting way more pussy than you ever will
>>42236870???????? are you asking why she invited your friend to have a lesbian threesome???? cuz it's fun??!????
>>42236839Literally don't care that she saw me as a man I had no sexual interest in her, the problem is that she thinks it would be embarrassing if my friend was dating me when she doesn't even know anything about either of us, and that she pretended I wasn't even there when I was literally 5 feet away>>42236814Was on hrt for 6 months then quit for a year, planning on getting back on it. I was visibly male at the bar but again my issue isn't that she thought I was a man it's that she was an asshole
>>42236890op's retarded and can't figure out why a dyke wanted a theyfab and not the theyfab's misogynistic friend who's getting into a heated argument on 4chan rn
>>42236884As I've come to learn women are evil and disgusting 99% of the time so it's not a loss really>>42236890My friend has been dating the same man for 5+ years, also I thought cold approaching women was literally rape or is it only ok when dykes do it
>>42236946well, you were not in the feminine conversation which is not something you're even aware of, so in a very real sense you arent there>>42236959i hope he's visibly on 4chan at the gay bar while his friend gets fingered
>>42235807yes, but without the expectations we put on men to not be utter shitheads. worst of both worlds when they don't develop a decent personality and start thinking they can get away with everything, much like bitchy regular women>>42235635can mean different things depending on the tone and local overton window, anon
>>42236984if you approached me i'd be afraid you'd rape me. that's probably why the dyke said thank god
Oh ok so it's just bait. My bad, kill yourself.
>>42236398if lesbians want to act like men, they better know this kind of behavior gets people into physical altercations
>thread baiting women to gaslight and emotionally abuse>they can't stop themselves every timeThis is why the 19th was a mistake
>>42236984you seem to be intentionally misinterpreting the scenario you were in to turn it into a situation where coming to the conclusion that all women are evil can seem justified and rational, which makes the fact you want to transition into a woman fucking hilarious, do you think you're gonna change the world by being the world's first good woman?
>wow you're an ugly piece of shit im happy your friend isnt dating you because she deserves better>umm why are you upset you misogynist??
>>42237065it actually shows op is extremely fembrained by interpreting things in the worst possible way where she's the victim, she already brain-passes
>>42237001I've never approached anyone in my life I don't deserve this treatment>>42236988For the record my friend was pissed after it happened and told me "not to consider the opinions of closeted lesbians" and went around telling our other friends how much it bothered them.I am in the right no matter what you say
>>42237059i could swap the genders of this story and post it as a separate thread and i'm sure all the men on the forum would do the exact same shit, everyone who uses this site is fucking terrible so instead of blaming every woman who's ever existed because you can't get laid because of your awful personality why don't you get off 4chan instead of getting mad every time this site functions in the exact way it's meant to
>>42237135If I posted this exact story but the lesbian was a man I guarantee every single person would be on my side
>>42235712>>42235588Its clear she was insulting him. You people are fucking twisted in the brain. Fucking complex freaks
>>42237182on 4chan? on this board? you're fucking delusional if you genuinely believe that, but you're also the kind of retard who's surprised when the sun rises again each morning
>>42237007Not bait. Completely serious>>42237094To be a man is to be constantly degraded and gaslit at all times
>>42236148so openly disrespectful? how? she didn't insult you you're just being a little bitch. grow a spine.
>>42236701Holy fuck you feminist cunts are insane Thank Christ our Savior I'm leaving the US.
>>42236825Silence, foid.
lol @ mtfs excitedly hating men in the same board they complain about not having a partner. unreal
>>42237261"why won't women have sex with me? they're so degrading and cruel, unlike me, who refers to women as foids">>42237242the women in other countries aren't going to be any more willing to have sex with you than the women in america
>>42237240You're retarded>>42237065My theyfab friend agreed with me that she was an asshole for doing that and realized exactly what she was trying to imply. Also I don't identify as a woman but if I did the percentage of good women in the world would increase substantially by my presence alone
>>42237317Wrong. I went to Mexico and the Bahamas last year, every town I visited i had girls being nice to me and flirting with me. American women have deluded themselves thinking they only deserve the top 5-10% of men I'm right because I've experienced every waking moment of my life. Me and every other man's experiences outweighs your feminist-blog skull.
>>42235843Gay bar also means lesbians. So women gonna talk to women in that situation.
>>42237318hey, does your theyfab friend know that you refer to them as a theyfab? would you be willing to show your theyfab friend this thread, and the all of the things you've said about women within it? do you think anything you've said in their thread would have a chance of making them not want to associate with you anymore if they knew about it?
>>42237393wdym, im right here and that bitch was trashy. i still ate that pussy thobeit
>>42235635>>42235643I don't understand what anon is whining about. Its a gay bar, and in his story a lesbian approaches woman and ignores him, a man. If he wanted women to approach him then go to a straight bar?
>>42237393If women can generalize about an entire gender after one (1) bad experience so can I. Also lmao imagine being offended by "theyfab"
>>42237460Never wanted her to approach just wanted her to not be a bitch, how do you people not understand that?
>>42237318>the percentage of good women in the world would increase substantially by my presence alonelmao you're delusional as hell. go back to crying over the fact that lesbians won't fuck you
>all this melting down because OP is (understandably) butthurt he got a backhanded insultWhy?
>>42237531most people here hate men. is what it is
>>42237531Abusers don't like when their victims defend themselves
>>42237531i'm just bored and choosing to be an annoying piece of shit on purpose because on purpose because it makes me laughi'm sure someone's going to say i'm only saying this cope but i don't really care what the retards on this thread think, give it enough time and i'll probably forget this all ever happened
>>42237618oops ended up repeating a couple words there, it's hard to string together words properly sometimes because i have a terminal case of mental retardation which is the reason i find getting into pointless arguments online funny
>>42237519Your crush is dating a man
>>42237685i don't have a crush on anyone because i gave up on the idea that i'll ever find love
>>42237703Then surely you can empathize with the male experience
>>42237745nah, because i don't care about getting laid either, i don't have any drive to have sex after being raped as a child lol
>>42237745empathize? like a sissy? i'm a man, i'm not going to empathize with shit. op is a crybaby bitch who needs to fix his retarded insecurity.
>>42237824this is true lol
Why are cis lesbians so fucking cruel and mean for no reason? Ive yet to meet a nice onealso sorry you had to go through that anon :<
>>42237923Thanks, the whole thing kinda turned me off from going to that bar which sucks because it's the only gay bar in my town and the straight bars are even worse
>>42237923They're just scared of the plap so they become rottenalso, they have to date womenthat sucks ass
>>42238013at least the lesbians there will no longer have to worry about your presence in the gay bar
>>42238036Lesbians are so delusionally paranoid over men its ridiculous. They refuse to heal from whatever trauma they had and isntead make it everyone elses problem
>>42238036Gay bars should be for men anyways
>>42238082men literally turn into complete misogynists the moment any woman doesn't want to have sex with them
>>42238102but then you'd be crying about the fact there was no women there to fuck you
>>42238036I have done nothing wrong>>42238102Nothing wrong with women being there just don't be bitches
>>42238170i have already admitted to being annoying as possible on purpose to get reactions out of people using this thread
>>42238190This is an anonymous website
>>42235588She wasn't insulting you she wanted to fuck your theyfab friend and she treated you the way women treat menYou're cis passing both in form and in inceldom, women don't give a fuck about you. Don't let testosterone turn you into a narcissist
>>42238539yessss i was too lazy to come up with new material to keep the thread going but you did my job for me, thank you so much
>>42238107You are projecting. You hate men because you dont see them as sexual partners, and to you the only way a person would have any value to you is if you would have sex with them or not
>>42238539How tf is it not insulting to say that shit right in front of me? Being a lesbian isn't an excuse to be a cunt
>>42240213yes it is
>>42240213Point out the insult
>>42240256Saying "thank God" upon learning they weren't dating me if you can't see how that would be interpreted you aren't smart enough to be here
>>42240988repress for ten more years then you'll understand why she said thank god
>>42240988I mean the only way it could be interpreted as an insult is if you're a repper and wanted her to hit on you instead, but even then it's just in your own head
i end to bed and when i finally go to check 4chan after waking up the next morning, i see this as thread as soon as i open the boardeveryone here is retarded and suicide is the only cure
If op was a woman she'd be insulted tooz except everyone would jump to her defense and tell her she deserves better friends.
>>42241091if a cis lesbian ignored a girl to beeline for her friend, yes she would have a right to be pissed. however, op is presenting as a man in a gay bar which is a clear signal of "not interested in woman even a little"
>>42241014>>42241130You're all retarded
>>42235712>Women are very emotionally intelligentReal emotional intelligence isn't knowing how to put vulnerable people down and getting away with it.The closest thing to "intelligence" foids have is their ability to manipulate others in those types of situations.
>>42241206retard please get fucked in the ass 1 time so you stop being such a virgin
>straight looking couple sitting in a gay bar>lesbian tries to hit on woman>is happy they're not a unicorn chaser>OP feels butthurt because????
>>42235588Dude, she just wanted some easy pussy, don't overthink it; it's not about you, most lesbians don't think about men to any greater or lesser degree, it's simply that your theyfab friend caught her eye, and if you were the boyfriend, the situation would be awkward. When your theyfab friend said no, she thought she'd have a better chance. :p
(If I got your gender wrong, please let me know, because from the photo you posted, I thought you were a gay man. If you are something else, the context changes.) :)
>>42241231>resorts to insults about sex after getting called outCase in point, thanks.
>>42241315Can't she do that without calling me ugly?>>42241341amab bi repper but it literally doesn't matter, what she did would be shitty regardless of everyone's genders
>>42241237Hitting on women is literally rape I thought? But it's ok when foids do it?
>>42235588>>42236398Because its rude something you clearly dont care about>>42235588Anon I get it and caught your post below about the fact that you want to transition again.This is social dysphoria anon and some trans women get it really bad even pre E when they get treated like shit by women. You're going to be dealing with this a lot until you look more visually queer or pass.Honest to fucking god I went through how you are feeling when I hit twink death and the massive alienation I got almost killed me. No women will believe you or understand it, men dont give a fuck and other queers will make excuses for it but the way misandrists treat men is disgusting.
can we keep this thread going forever i love watching retards fight each other
>>42241780The thing is I shouldn't have to transition just to be treated like a human by other queers. In fact part of the reason i repped for so long is because it felt like giving up, like I was surrendering to abusers and betraying men by doing it. I remember trying to join gay clubs in high school and the people there had this look like I wasn't supposed to be there and that I was offending them by even existing, because I wasn't a stereotypical castrated gay male. If I transitioned and passed I would avoid this happening but I shouldn't have to change my identity just to be accepted. That's why I'll probably just end up enbycoping
>>42241945no one cares about your life's story of feeling like an outsider among the people you're supposed to belong to, everyone goes through that and the fact you're turning it into this big sob story to justify your victim complex is exactly why no one ever wants to be around you
>>42242042>being humiliated and dehumanized by supposed allies is your own fault because...It just is ok!!!
>>42242239you won't ever be able to understand the point i was making if you're going to misinterpreted it on purpose
>>42242277I'll stop criticizing women when they stop being openly evil
>>42241945Yeah anonI tried coping like that First I basically faggy twink NB coped from 13-22Dealt with what youre dealing with from 22-30 (came out at 28)It sucks but men and women queers or not can all be such absolute shit people and unfortunately yes you are going to need to give in on this because people will never treat you the way you want to br treated It isn't worth butting your head up against this like I did for years. If you want to transition just do it and eventually reap the rewards of no longer being treates like a subhuman potential rapist threat-34 yo tranny 3+ years in
>>42242309you sound like a woman to me
>>42242324Then I'm more than qualified to criticize them>>42242316But I shouldn't have to transition just to be treated like a human being
>>42242552people won't treat you like a human being as a woman either, retard, especially as a tranny
>>42242568Trans women that pass and are stealth are absolutely treated better than men
>>42242639the fact you believe this is exactly why you will never be happy in life no matter who or what you present yourself as
>>42242650Why shouldn't I believe it
14-16in 14.5in 32in it's sad because if my ribcage was just a few inches narrower i would such a better chance at making it but of course no im one inch over the avg height so im basically screwed
>>42243073This is not meBut also mogs me
>>42241891I'm gonna keep it going until people can convince me not to kms (they won't)
>>42244093no one cares if you live or die
>go to gay bar with lesbian friend you're not dating>get upset that your lesbian friend gets hit on by lesbians at said gay bar and clarifies you are not dating when directly asked if you are datingthe reason nobody likes you is because you're an autistic retard btw
>>42241495She could, but we have some people who don't know how to be kind and are rude, perhaps because for some woman she flirted with, this is at least somewhat sexy, attractive, or simply an integral part of her personality; which isn't your fault, and even if it's far beyond your control, she doesn't deserve to make you feel bad, you don't deserve to feel bad, because someone found you ugly/unattractive. We have to remember that there are different types of beauty, and not every group will see something like that in the same way, and people's reactions usually vary.Don't feel less because this happened; not everyone knows how to pay attention to other people's feelings, and some seem to ignore this out of malice. And it seems, perhaps because you're a repper, social dysphoria is acting up, and the fact that you're seen as masculine is making you distressed. In fact, transitioning might be the best choice — it might be time-consuming, painful, and even a longer journey, but it's very worthwhile if you want to be yourself — there will always be people like that, OP, the best thing is to distance yourself, because they're not worth your time or your feelings.Hope you feel better, OP! :D
>>42241495>Can't she do that without calling me ugly?When did she do that, anon? Half an hour later while she was eating your friend's ass while you watched from the hotel cuck chair? You never mentioned her calling you ugly in the OP.
>>42244207op ain't going to read all that all he wants to is come up with excuses as to why hating women is justified and okay because he's miserable and retarded like the rest of us
>>42244269Perhaps we're both wrong in our own ways; only OP knows what she felt, whether or not it was the girl's intention to provoke this.
i decided to ask chatgpt what it thought of your post op, here's what it said: "The post is problematic because it shows intense negative self-talk and cognitive distortions, where the poster takes a brief social interaction and interprets it as proof that they are unattractive and worthless, even though there are many harmless alternative explanations for what happened. It also includes explicit suicidal ideation, which is a serious red flag and indicates emotional distress rather than a rational conclusion. On top of that, the poster is seeking validation in a forum like 4chan, which is known for being harsh and unsupportive, making it more likely that these harmful thoughts will be reinforced rather than challenged. Overall, the issue isn’t the interaction itself, but the way the poster spirals from a minor social moment into self-blame, hopelessness, and thoughts of self-harm."
>>42244260It was very obviously implied dumbass>>42244161>>42244370kys
>>42244207but like, are you saying if I wasn't trans I wouldn't have cared about the interaction in the first place? Can't help but feel like I would have been pissed in any context
>>42235635This. No one was trying to insult OP, it's just a lesbian has no use for a guy (sexually that's for sure).The>thank God was meant as a slightly self-deprecating expression of relief (phew, I didn't fuck up and approach a straight couple!). At least that's how I would mean it.
>>42244798you wouldn't have cared if you weren't a retard which sadly isn't possible because you can't cure autism
>>42244782>I'm assuming things that weren't said and getting mad about them. No I'm not retarded, you're retarded!kms yourself
>>42244798you still would have cared because you'd still be violently autistic
>>42244829>was meant as a slightly self-deprecating expression of reliefit's literally just "thank god, I wanted to fuck you and I was worried maybe you wouldn't be open to that if you were dating this guy".OP is just an actual retard.
>>42244864Yeah. He's probably very insecure, otherwise he wouldn't be overthinking such a minor interaction. Sad, but fixable.
>>42244893Why wouldn't I be insecure when people go out of their way to make my life worse every day
>>42244950bro keeps going on and on in circles about what a victim he is lol
>>42245001women will say this and then get mad when their girlfriend leaves them for a man lmao
>>42244864Anything to avoid holding women accountable
>>42235635fpbpno need to read any more
>>42245270nice fantasy you've got there troon
>>42246992Fantasy? One of the biggest pop songs of last year was about this exact thing happening, it's common enough that it probably happened to you and that's why you're in my thread being a bitch about it
>>42246992Theres thousands of lesbians who despise bi women and refuse to ever date them percisely because they got dumped for a man lol
>>42247560This. I thought it was a well understood phenomenon
>>42247560Lesbians that feel like they have to initiate contact, keep the relationship alive... I love when they sufferto know what it is to try to keep a woman interested
>>42235588She was repulsed by the thought of dating you because she is a dyke, go find a fudge packer if you want something tripping over themselves to have romance with you
>>42235588Get over yourself.
>>42249596Normal people dont feel repulsed towards people they arent sexually attracted too
>>42249765Lesbians arent normal people
i'm not letting this thread go without a fight
>>42249926Maybe they should be?>>42252700No one can counter anything I've said
>>42249596She doesn't need to be attached to me she just needs to not be an evil bitch
