Transbians are the category of people who are most hated by the greatest amount of groups: 99% of the world hates us for various reasons - Religious people hate us (muslims, christians eyc) Radfems hate us and think of us a peverts, Far righters want to hang us - even our own community sometimes dislikes us.The truth is that we are high human capital, we have an average IQ of 120 above that of asheknazi jews, we are intelligent but broken. We are the ones who built up DIY from scratch up from when it was just hussies taking abortion pills, but the world hates us and will never let us live in peaceWe need to get of our misery, our self pity, our dysphoria and fight for a worthy cause, we need a new transhumanist technocratic transbian israel. There we will build a utopia and a stronghold for our kind so that we will never be vulnerable againPlease share ideas>Location>How to organize society>Which groups to include>Flag
>>42241068nona transbian israel is just tttt
>>42241068apartheid is bad
why does it have to be israel why cant we have transbian japan
>>42241324But were so vulnerable, if anyone decides to get rid of us they can do so with ease>>42241399we are the jews of gender, aren't we?
>>42241516>we are the jews of gender, aren't we?even so it's not a good idea to lean into this branding at this point in time
>>42241282Then why are there theyfabs here roaming free and not in camps?
>>42241068interesting thread. this is something that i've seen pop up occasionally and i actually wrote article largely addressing it as well as discussing various ontological questions regarding trans existence:https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-11-04-On-The-Transgender-Question.htmlid love to answer some of the questions you posed on the op as i have some ideas, but unfortunately i need to go right about now. hopefully the thread will be here by the time i come back though>>42241732i agree with this. unfortunately i think we still lack the language for what exactly needs to be done. what i'd call it is "hagshaayr" (i could elaborate more on this term when i come back).
because we all want to be the puppygirl slaves of transrael and none of us want to build the apartments or run the power plants or negotiate the trades or maintain the sewers.
>>42242241Some people are taking my idea of a literal physical state too seriously, we can all agree that us transbians are a product of modernity (in the previous age we would be miserable) So we need a decentralized culture and network so that we can help each other
>>42242275Hmm, lazy bums, we need ppl to make sacrifices for our cause
>>42241068>>42241516>>42241732well it did in fact work out rather well for israel, so...
>>42241068Sighhhh im an Asheknazi (like 10% Sephardic Dow) and a repping troon bc family is not supportive telaviv is pretty great if ur trans maybe make convert and make aliaah we will welcome you, bb will be out of office soon as well
>>42242294it HAS to be a physical state within an island or a bouyant platform like sealand, and this HAS to be the navy uniform
The window of opportunity is closing, the next generation of transbians aren't anywhere near elite human capital, youngshits and blocker bitches melting their brain with drugs and short form content, they are just dumb sluts like the young hsts.
>>42243949>picreluh...no femboy dogshit please
>>42242241>>42242294im back but rlly tired so ill see what i can articulate..it is good that you have recognized the necessity behind a project along these lines given the groups that dislike us but i believe there is much value in recognizing the core principle underlying our existence and using that as the basis for organization. the recognition of a shared destiny and not just a pragmatic matter of survival is very much important to have something which genuinely unites us. the danger of the logic of survival is its individualistic and myopic tendencies. we see this in the people that hamper their potential caring about such concepts as "optics" or "representation". what these people fail to grasp is the insufficiency of "human rights" as a real concept. ultimately, rights mean nothing without real concrete power, and power requires structure to be effective. but what is this unifying principle for trans people? to me, it lies in the dedication to move beyond the givenness of our immediate embodiment even if may lead to our self-destruction. this is a trait that many non-trans transhumanists fail to replicate. on some subconscious level, a lot of transphobia is rooted in the recognition that we are a people that confront death in a far more direct and routine way than the average person. this is seen both in rates of suicide attempts, but also in the very ontological status of bodily modification. for, to modify the body, one must take it out of homeostasis. in moving beyond givenness and stability, we confront the universality of All-Flesh underlying all form. hence there is a tendency latent within ourselves to negate our individuality as well as all mundane structures of normalcy. furthermore, in the movement from homeostasis underlying the change of flesh, the questions of sovereignty and violence (especially as is done to us) come especially natural to us
>>42246053there is a particular heaviness of being, a recognition of fallenness and the fight against this condition which we are primed to be able to better recognize (see also >>2240007). so you see in all of this there is really a lot of spiritual material to be explored here and i think it is an important element in actually developing a collective identity that can promote cooperation rather than various roads which simply lead to assimulation>Locationpersonally im not sure whether or not having a literal land is the best idea. at any rate having an extended network not only for support but also one for the accumulation of capital is crucial for the capacity to operate autonomously. for this purpose i think we should look towards starting up businesses (perhaps cooperatives) that are themselves subordinated under a federation which makes decisions towards a collective vision for the future. starting our own businesses, we would be capable of funding crucial care such as sexual reassignment surgery without the reliance on the opinions cis people have on usif would have to choose a location, i would pick antartica because there is no native population. either that or just pick uninhabited land in northern canada. either way, it would have to be away from the equator because climate change will very likely devastate a large part of the planet at this point. of course all of this would presuppose a tremendous accumulation of capital and so the goal of a federation of cooperatives is likely a necessity before we can talk about an action nation state. if we look at the history of zionism, it is notable a major element to its success lay in the establishment of joint stock companies in order to consolidate resources. hence however you look at it, the questions of economics and power are crucial if we are not just going to end up as trash to be exposed of
>>42246065>How to organize societyive already highlighted the importance of a federation. there is more here to explicate. why have the businesses be cooperatives? here are some points here to consider1) excessive wealth accumulation within an individual that is not the sovereign must be seen as a threaten to sovereignty. we can see this loud and clear in thiel's attempts to upend us democracy2) i support the distributist principle of subsidiarity. ultimately, a person's agency with regards to their work and existence is diluted the more they have to answer to an authority subject to a greater amount of people. you start to require people from disparate contexts to all answer to the same standards that may not be equally suited to their particular contexts. hence, localism i think is a valuable principle. it should be broken for the organization of large scale projects at which high levels of governance shall be the ones doing the organizing. perhaps the federation may be stratified on different levels of scale so that certain coops may have more local levels of governance3) when a business is owned by an individual class and has an overcompensated managerial class, these individuals will likely live in gated communities, dissociating them from the same shared context as their employee. if we were suspicious of any man who does not till the same soil we do, us citizens would neve worship blatant billionaire pedophilesi also personally think that higher level of federation governance should have longer lasting posts. it is difficult for long term plans to be executed if there is a constant rotation of representativeson top of this, in an ideal world we would have not only the funding of various surgeries but also various rituals which strengthen one's sense of ontological heaviness. looking at the hijra farsi and other transsexual communities, matrilineal apprentice and adoption systems may be worth exploring and are in some sense tradition already
>>42246121>Which groups to includeultimately anyone who relates on a fundamental level to the principles and ontological orientation which i have articulated, even if they are not trans. it is the principle that is crucial for cohesion and trust. those that do not recognize the heaviness of being and the need to move beyond corporeal and moiraic givenness ought to be treated with suspicion. this is because even as allies they dont really understand, and like the christian or radfem, must ultimately contextualize within a universalist atlanticist framework that inevitably concludes that certain groups of people are illegitimate existences. ultimately if one does not have a shared destiny with these people, one is simply relying on self-serving feelings of "sympathy" or "kindness" that will fail to serve us when the world becomes more cruel and enslaved to rationalistic expediencei think the hidweh project is a potentially powerful religious/spiritual glue that can bring together relatively disparate people (e.g. looksmaxxers.. we already see some people familiar with such communities taking an interest in the project)>Flagi havent rlly thought abt ths too much desu desu. i was thinking abt making the red double cross a flag for somethingbtw check this language out, useful for anti-language and liturgical purposes (think polari, hijra farsi, and of course hebrew; the latter being used as a tool to further promote nationalism):https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/lyydh.html>>42246065also mean to link to here >>42240007
>>42246121>owned by an individual class*owned by an individual
>>42242241>24k+ wordsYou people have way too much time on your hands.
>>42246303I'm not quite sure I understand your argument for including cis people tbhon. I'm in theory not opposed to including cis people who share the same worldview as me, but I am suspicious of cis people because so far I have never met one that actually did share my worldview. At best they promised allyship which never meant anything since as soon as I disagreed with them they would stab me in the back and ally themselves with the people who seek to end my existence. So I'm not sure how to deal with this suspicion I have of cis people when cis people are included in such a project.
>>42241068what if im a pervert transbian tho
>>42241516Unfunny, also, everyone in the category of social theorists you're riffing off of hates Israel and think this shit is retarded. and it's a shame because if you bothered to do your research or learn nuance you'd know there's actually some really interesting trans separatist network ideas being explored that you will no doubt ignore on account of the fact you only seem interested in using it to astroturf Zionism.
>>42247628>At best they promised allyshipyes i do not think most cis people would not be able to be more than "allies". such people offer little besides sentimentality and "votes", and would likely never bother materially involving themselves within such a federation in the first place>So I'm not sure how to deal with this suspicion I have of cis people when cis people are included in such a projectwe need to move beyond the secular liberal paradigm entirely to avoid involving people like this and reach people that would actually understand the stakes on a deeper level. the problem with the concept of an "ally" is that their support grounded on "sympathy" and vain pretensions to "rights and liberties" that lack real concrete substance. moreover, sympathy in particular depends on what others have deemed "worthy" of deserving sympathy and "rights" are predicated on those who are worthy of being considered human. without a larger principle behind this decision, their judgement on whether a person is worthy of this things is inevitably going to be capriciousmeanwhile, when people are connected spiritually and materially, and are working together on a shared project, there is a real basis for cooperation. rather than grounding things on capricious individualistic moral sentiment, things instead find themselves based upon a respect. this is a respect that is found in the recognition of the commendable undertaking that transition itself is, the recognition that unlike sexual orientation, transition is something one has committed themselves to and involves the challenging of the self's corporeal limitations. it is in such a condition that individual differences and disagreements are transcended by a sense of shared destiny, predicament, and mutual understanding>>42249915>there's actually some really interesting trans separatist networkcould you direct me where? i am interested in exploring more
>>42241068>location, flagpicrel>how to organize a societybasically already done, just need to clean up the nazis and bomb grünau from orbit. if some transbians want to ruralfag for whatever reason we can genocide all the nazis in rural saxony (aka everyone in rural saxony) and colonize. if the feds show up just tell them they're being antisemitic or something and they'll fuck off.>who to includeall trannies except the hsts pickmes. the clockier the better.
>>42241068the answer is just israel, transbian zionist israeli
>>42251437>could you direct me where? i am interested in exploring moreseconding this
>>42251601true we should invade israel
>>42251437Hidweh anon salutations! You seem to have an attraction to my threads, I was the one who made the spiritual meaning of AGP one too, I wih you all the best for your project!>>42249915Please, I would be forever grateful if you shared your resources with me
>>42254439>I was the one who made the spiritual meaning of AGP one toooh hey. maybe we share a similar orientation perhaps.. best to you too
>>42241068its called living on a compound in the Pacific Northwest and they already existI hope you like polycules
>>42251437>>42254439There's a specific document I have in mind that's about decentralization technology and networked anti-statism that n1x drafted and never published, I'll see if I can find the citations and/or convince her to publish it
>>42256903oh that is interesting, maybe i should contact n1x sometime, or if you have contact w her you could share my writings mayb
>>42241068So true, I think lobbying a woke nation like Canada or EU union for an autonomous zone is the best course of action
>>42258518we need to set up farms in western canada
>>42258585i'm a tranny civil engineer, i'll help design and build your irrigation and sewage systems as long as you don't force me into a polycule or prohibit cis men
>>42258585>tranny homestead in leaflandwill not survive the winter
Ethnostates and monocultures kinda suck and I think you’ll just end up having your own kind.Fun idea. Shitty reality.
>>42251438Id rather kill myself than move to Leipzig, Germany.A tranny state should ideally be on a self-sufficient island. Or in space.
