Given their height, most people will view them from below rather than the top, too
>>42247526do you want to rate me without angle frauding?
>>42247526>picrelGrim
>>42247550That's how it always should be, at least in passgeAnd yes
>>42247526cute tho. would totally rape.you'll never be that cute.
>>42247570these are a lot of images so you can get a good idea
>>42247598I don't care for the opinions of a rapist
>>42247612Doesn't pass as a woman imoMaybe if you had a good voice idk
>>42247627you think if i had a couple more years of E id pass? or is my bone structure bad
>>422476121) Get voice training2) do something so your hair stays straight rather than this clocky way3) try different type of glasses (or drop them altogether if you can)>>42247640How long so far?
>>42247526Because the game was rigged against them from the start. Women don’t post selfies to reaffirm their identity as women, they do it to look beautiful. So passing inevitably turns into a beauty assessment because there is no incentive not to imitate women. A non anglefrauded selfie will of course be torn to shreds, declared as ugly, because it will be judged against the agnoefrauded selfies that every woman takes. On top of that, it will appear as “unwomanly” behavior because, ipso facto, it’s not something a woman would typically do. Lose-lose.
>>42247715This is the correct answer.Glad my best cisf friend taught me that very early in the transition. Prevented a lot of brainworms and got me girlmoding a lot earlier. I literally owe her my life lol.
>>42247658>1) Get voice trainingshould i just do it myself or do i need a coach?>2) do something so your hair stays straight rather than this clocky wayr u saying i should straighten my hair or do a diff style?>3) try different type of glasses (or drop them altogether if you can)ig i can just stick to contacts>How long so far?not far at all actually. a couple weeks
>>422477391) Both if you can. Do it yourself if you can't afford or don't have the time. Just do it now. The faster you start, the better you get.2) Yes, straighten it. That type of hair will never look good on you. Sorry, but it's the truth.3) Contacts are fine too. Your face is really cute so glasses in general aren't an issue. Those particular glasses are an issue.Ig that the internet pushes the meme that rounded frames are more feminine but in reality it's the face's build that makes or breaks. On you they look John Lenon-ish. Just not good.>not far at all actually. a couple weeksYou'll be fine.Soldier on with the shots. You're way ahead.And gtfo from this board for the rest of 2026 at the very least. The hard part (mentally) will start soon. The LAST place you want to be when that happens is this place.Love youself nona. Win! Live! And the first step is to fuck off from this godforsaken brainworm-ridden dungeon.>old tranny
Rate me VeltailPS you're really hot do you want to date when you start HRT?
>>42247778>2) Yes, straighten it. That type of hair will never look good on you. Sorry, but it's the truth.i mean it looks fine on my mother tho? also i did straighten once and i looked really bad. my hair is very thick so it looks weird when straight. i feel like if it gets longer and theres more weight to it then itll look better and less curly>Ig that the internet pushes the meme that rounded frames are more feminine but in reality it's the face's build that makes or breaks. i see, unfortunate. do you have a shape that you think would fit me?>And gtfo from this board for the rest of 2026 at the very least. The hard part (mentally) will start soon. The LAST place you want to be when that happens is this place.i understand this board is mental poison but wdym the hardest part is mental? what should i expect to happen?also thank you
>>42247612you lowkey look like a theyfab as long as your voice sounds like a woman
>>42247914I know this isn't her but she passesAlso no And I won't do hrt
>>42247977ive heard this but im 5'9 so i feel like its not ideal to be theyfabmaxxing
>>42247978>And I won't do hrtHuh, I thought youve been on hrt, why wont you do it?
>>42248206shes not trans
>>42248206A whole lot of reasons>>42248212Misgendering me again
>>42247926>i mean it looks fine on my mother tho?Idk your mother. But do keep in mind that she is older. I can believe it looks better on a woman 20+ years older.>i feel like if it gets longer and theres more weight to it then itll look better and less curlyThat's a stretch (no pun intended). An excuse not to try.Sure, it may work out how you describe it, but i wouldn't bet on that.>glassesSee picrel. If you don't like my suggestion, just go to a store and try out others.But just ditch the John Lenon look, lol>wdym the hardest part is mental? what should i expect to happen?next post. apologize in advance for the wall of text
>>42247526because they pass even less without anglefrauding
>>42248227>A whole lot of reasonsoh oop, i thought picrel was you
>>42248260Iirc she wasn't on it for long but she's already prettier than I ever will be
>>42247926>wdym the hardest part is mental? Estrogen has neurological effects. They're a little more profound than the "official" science say, but they also vary a lot by individual.Transition is not just physical changes, but mental too. If you get lucky, you sail through it relatively easy. If you don't get lucky, then it will get rough. Maybe in a month, maybe in 2027. But almost nobody avoids this.>what should i expect to happen?Anything between mild reverse dysphoria and full blown identity crisis.The solution is to let it happen, soldier on with the shots, avoid ssris like plague and, in your case, girlmode harder.I can only hope and pray it won't be too rough in your case. But don't be surprised when it happens.>i understand this board is mental poisonHence why I insist you fuck off from this place.I want you to win. You have a very good shot at being stealth. Girls like you deserve to win.And the first step is killing the brainworms. This place is a source of brainworms (as is almost any tranny space online).Lean into IRL things. It WILL make you feel better and will prevent things spiraling out of control.This place feeds your insecurities. It's just as bad (if not arguably worse) than the echo-chambered hugboxes.
>>42247526>>42247914No pass for a reason you all have in common. What do you all have in common? I don't mean face structure.
>>42248355Stop being vague and just say it
>>42248331I only got physical effects, not neurological onesNow I feel like a dude with tits and a vagina
>>42248371I'd like you to go on any website and check out women. Women, under almost all circumstances, smile and show teeth.
>>42248390>I'd like you to go on any website and check out women. Women, under almost all circumstances, smile and show teeth.What a sexist pig
>>42247526why are you using my friend's face?
>>42247914You would pass pretty well if you had a nice smile. You don't look like a terrified woman to scare she might be killed! Its what makes you look like a tranny
>>42248381>not neurological onesHow long? What doses?Also, you did get some neurological effects, just not those more visible to you. Unless you have some really weird one in 10M anomaly, it's impossible to flood the brain with estrogen and get zero neurological effects.>Now I feel like a dude with tits and a vaginaSo zero socialization. Many such cases.Why do nonas refuse to socialize as women? :sob:Seriously, hrt isn't magic. It can't solve all of your problems and can only help but not REPLACE you lack of socialization and effort.le sigh
>>42248396Call me what you want. If you really want to pass well to ordinary people you would do exactly what I say, try smiling
>>42248415It's an example I had for anglefrauding
>>42248461I've been on hrt and socially transitioned for 12 years, full girlmoding in public and at workI don't enjoy girlmoding
>>42248476thats kinda sexist>>42248484its kinda creepy, i would refrain from using pics that arent your own
>>42248484given youre a tripfag, i can almost guarantee you have your own pictures you can use
>>42248512>its kinda creepy, i would refrain from using pics that arent your ownVeltail is a psychopath who can't be convinced foldering and reposting people is creepy
>>42248495>I don't enjoy girlmoding:sob:If this isn't b8, this is really sad. I'd hug if I could.I socially transitioned 14yrs ago and loving it ever since.But when I say socialization I don't just mean being able to girlmode. But being able to do it convincingly to yourself too and loving it.By now you've grown to be too cynical so it will be harder (if not downright impossible) to fix.I wish I had a more optimistic answer. Damn, this better be b8.
>>42247526When are you going to transition and be a transbian Ling Ling?
>>42248535>>psychopathi doubt it, probably just another incel if anything, psychopaths are far too rare
>>42248512Why should you care? Your main goal is to pass as a woman so you can live in peace. You don't exist for somebody's political ideology. Women, by instinct, smile whenever they are in front of a camera. It's like something you learn from childhood
>>42248248>Sure, it may work out how you describe it, but i wouldn't bet on that.i looked like an emo when my hair was straight. people literally laughed at me in the streets. idk also i get compliments for my hair so while i respect your advice i think i will try to make my natural work as much as possible.>See picrel. If you don't like my suggestion, just go to a store and try out others.picrel would be nice but i live w family and i feel like those are too feminine. ill just wear contacts>I can only hope and pray it won't be too rough in your case.i guess we will see, thank you>I want you to win. You have a very good shot at being stealth. Girls like you deserve to win.thats really sweet. i really want to be stealth so thats comforting to know you think i have a good chance at it>Lean into IRL things. It WILL make you feel better and will prevent things spiraling out of control.im a little confused what this means. do you mean like do hobbys that involve the outside and with irl people?and yeah ur right i should leave. if im being entirly honest i have attention issues so being on this board feeds into that issue. weirdly enough people havent been so rude to me. most ppl tell me i can/do pass. which is an issue cus it just feeds into that attention issue. ill try to be on my own but its hard when in my own mind im so negative to myself.
>>42248567i care when people mess with my friends, she's just autistic. honestly tho society's standards are bullshit, and its more than just being a woman, cause like, thats just the default if youre trans, its to reduce dysphoria if anything, pushing arbitrary standards like smiling more is just toxic, end quote
>>42248526I don't look like a tranny>>42248535I'm sorry.Look there's other folder people out there okAnd generally if people aren't ok with it I won't do it to them
>>42248544I like menI wanna be around menI wanna wear guy fashionI wanna be one of the guysBut I'm more accepted by them as a woman than I was as a manI'm okay with the physical changes so at least there's that?
>>42248381weirdly enough ive always felt like a woman. even despite how silly it was since i look like a man>>42247612 is me
>>42248599well my friend is not ok with people sharing her pictures, so the polite thing would be to remove the image>>42248599so you admit you are? or are you some cis person who thinks they know whats best?
>>42248567my main goal is to have fun while the world burns down around me, looking like a woman is kinda impossible since i started at 23, i make slow progress but my bones kinda make that life a impossibility anyway
>>42248630I'm a cis manAlso sorry I'll remove it
>>42248651thank you, im glad to see you are a cis man with manners
>>42248651You should stop foldering people altogether and stop posting women like you did to Azelf. It's creepy.
>>42248657Alright I can't delete it, should I try to delete the post
>>42248669It's been 45 minutes since you posted it man. You can't delete posts that old. Are you seriously this new?
veltail whats your discord
>>42248669yes, that would be the best path
>>42248596I do what other women do, so I pass well. I've been passing for longer than you can imagine. I passed well because I know how to play the part by heart and yes, all women do play the part, just like all men play the Macho Man part
>>42248682Risottonero77
>>42248607>But I'm more accepted by them as a woman than I was as a manYou sound like that incel nona from a few days ago. Except she made more peace with herself.Still, you can 2 out of 4 easily. You can like men and be around men :3And you can still tryout the 3rd quite often desu
>>42248690thats just peer pressure, does everyone need to drink alcohol if everyone else is doing it? thats a very conformist opinion of yours. also you are a anon who hasnt posted face so i cannot verify if you are even telling the truth
>>42248690i also assume in this hypothetical youre post srs, so go live your life passoid, youll never understand what its like
>>42248725Yeah, you know I'm telling you the truth, you can feel it. Why would I lie about anything. Maybe I would admit things but I'm not going to make something up. Yes I'm very conservative, in that way. I had to survive and luckily, I had a pretty good life.
>>42248769well good for you, some of us dont get that privilege, glad your life has been lucky enough for that
>>42248769Sexist incel passoids are still incels
>>42248749I do understand what it's like. I get paranoid about it every day and just push myself through it. I've been doing this forever.
>>42248782doubtful, i bet you dont have fucked up bones that make it impossible to really pass
>>42248779>>42248780I'm trying to be a friend. Just remember that you would look much better than you realize. It's your facial expression, which makes you look different.
>>42248809no its a billion other things, its why i usually avoid this place, ive only visited because some asshole was using a picture of my friend and want it taken down
>>42248802Oh, I did, had a lot of face surgery. My body did look somewhat feminine
>>42248721>that incel nona from a few days ago.Did someone invoke me?>>42248780No, I'm not. Admittedly, wasn't (and am not) sexist. But was khv incel. Now I'm not anymore.You people just love to be miserable.
>>42248843wow, flaunting the money or good insurance you got, real classy, youre just like the girls on twitter
>>42248852Actually, how is the street hooker who cheated the hospital. I have nothing to hide anymore
>>42248721Like for years I tried "fake it until you make it"But over the past two years the feeling of being a guy has just kept becoming strongerLike I'll just be watching TV or reading or lying in bed and suddenly think "huh. I feel like a dude, just vibing here" and it'll feel right
>>42248833If you care about making yourself overly vulnerable I would avoid this place. But if you want to really get into experience in your vulnerabilities it might be a good place to be if you really want to live on the Wild Side.
>>42248880 no the best place is reality, this is just a brainworm factory that doesnt help anything, anyway gtg, got a thing to do, adieu
>>42248888Who knows maybe you know best
>>42248913nah, the person who knows best is definitely whoever is living in switzerland or somewhere with decent healthcare
>>42247612get your eyebrows done
>>42249093what shape should i do?
>>42249095just go to a good salon/place that does eyebrwows and tell them u want them done feminine u just need them thinned out to accentuate ur brow less is all :) u can totlally pass btw esp so early on hrt but that will help a lot imo
>>42249116oki, thank you girl (:
>>42247526pov you're an average height woman
>>42249676I wish you were a lesbian or bi
>>42249676whats next for your piercings?
>>42247526How do you know when an image is anglefrauded? I usually consider it a hard anglefraud when the camera is above eye level and tilted. >>42247914veltail 100% got a chub from this>>42248630OMG YOU ARE BACK, WHAT DO YOU LOOK LIKE THESE DAYS?!>>42247738She taught you not to spam your selfies on the internet?
>>42252683Huh? WhatI don't know what that is but definitely not
>>42247526no offence to them but the few passgen posters that actually do this and show all angles of their faces look either gigaautistic or depressed over the fact they’re having to do it
>>42249676Pls step on me spit on me kick me in the balls
>>42247612God it's the horrible fake curly hair I just can't past it
>>42249676yo that neck stubble is wild
>>42253030lool i rly liked when u crashed out in that one thread
>>42253039>Can't distinguish photo grain from neck stubbleYou can gauge how well you pass based on how far this bitterhon has to reach to make shit up(Lis is beautiful and passes perfect, she's my queen)
>>42253047No idea what you're on about, maybe post a link?
>>42253409>>42207465if it isnt u then its still pretty funny cus ig the mind virus has spread
>>42253421Yeah I don't post my face here and I would never get fake curls put on my head. So it's somebody else my good fellow.
>>42247526Picrel is so creepy, looks like a greasy pervert in a dress
>>42253609She's a pretty womanNot a pervert
>>42253622Your bisexuality is blinding youThat's a man with long hair
>>42253512i didnt say you sent your face? im referring to how in that thread someone in all caps was yelling about fake curls. i cant imagine it was anyone else lol
>>42252683>She taught you not to spam your selfies on the internet?No, she taught me to stay away from most of these spaces that are designed to mess with unstable brains.I don't take selfies to begin with so I was safe from that anyway.
>>42253622You do look like a girl, but you look like a girl trying out for a part in a horror movie. You look like you're out to stab somebody
>>42252683not much honestly, hrt is a meme and i dont have money for expensive surgeries, also im kinda poor rn so been skimping on layering my hair, also i mostly lurk on discord instead of here, also as i said before, im kinda a permahon so i gave up on passgen awhile ago
>>42258475as you can see, transitioning at 23 is too late ;/
>>42258490shut the fuck up u have desirable features that many of us do not possess. ur hair is healthy ur bangs r just chopped. u most likely cut them urself or ur salonist has brain damage and it shows, relax.
>>42258543well i dont have the money to get a good salonist, so there
>>42258553proof has been provided. u cut them urselfur busy dooming when its just a superficial feature that is chopped (not genetics)
>>42258553Come back to the board when you have real problems
>>42258574Well I did, I wanted my friend's picture taken off here but it was too late at some point>>42258568 my bones are still kinda bad, also the ribcage is fucked by male puberty so that's not right either
>>42258623welcome to the club, get over it
>>42258652Well, someone asked, and I gave a answer, anyway hope y'all have a good time, gonna go back to discord again
>>42258475Clownish hair flap that starts at the back of the head and a super masculine face. You don’t pass at all. What are you even doing to be transgender?
>>42258706Good don’t come back until you get a hairline lowering to fix your atrocious hairline and get rid of that dumbass hairflap. Good riddance to bad rubbish imho.
>>42258728At least 95% of trans women do not pass.
>>42258728Honestly, not much, poor, parents hate me, waiting to be exterminated at this point cause suicide takes effort and I'm lazy
>>42258743Average 4channer be like
>>42258475Please do not eat me
>>42258873All shall be consumed at the end, cause fungi and worms
>>42258828Your hair is fucking embarrassing and you are making everybody look bad by posting it.
>>42259681Who cares? You? ;3
>>42253039respectfully are you stupid
>>42252470stretch septum + high nostrils up nextalso interested in dahlia but they're a huge pain to heal i think
>>42258894what if cremated?
>>42261731what if somebody threaded a padlock through your lip piercings and locked it?
>>42261746Still goes back to the universe in the end, the dust will decay into nothing thanks to entropy
>>42247526Would, thoughbeit.
fuck unsee reducing photo life time from 6 hrs to 1 hr and now to 10 minuteswhat am i gonna do now
>>42247526>this typing styleI now know whos been talking shit, youve made an enemy. im going to destroy your real life
>>42261756what? they're not even hoopsi'd probably go to the emergency room and have them use the ring cutter thing or something
>>42259681holy moly the hair flap schizophrenia has led to the SPICIEST seethe of the season>>42261731as a high nostrils haver myself im so excited to see you with themthey're gonna be sooo cute on you
>>42262204Wait are they actually a person who cares about hair?
>>42261939Huh? What typing style
>>42262220hair flap anon is a schizo who thinks all bangs are "hair flaps" and fundamentally misunderstands how bangs work. they believe that bangs are a single layer of hair, in the literal sense, a single-file line of hair coming exactly from your hairline and only from your hairline.any thickness to your bangs, like how 99% of bangs actually are, makes it a "hair flap" to them.they think trans women have deep hairlines all the way on the backs of our heads and shiny bald spots on top, which we cover with hair flaps pulling all the way from the back of our heads, like an extreme combover pulled forward.they genuinely believe and keep repeating the idea that an errant gust of wind will reveal our shiny bald heads.i tried to show them sectioning diagrams and photos of bangs to demonstrate how they work and clear up some misunderstandings but they don't seem to want to learn. they're very belligerent and also frequently accuse women of wearing wigs or "hair hats."curiously, they've stated before that cis women can wear bangs without issue and that only trannies have issues with hair flaps but ive gotten them to call 4+ cis women hair flaps or hair hats, so. they aren't as good at it as they think.ive been monitoring them for a while. they're a weird specimen. ive also gathered they're a repper.
VELTAIL'S FLUFFY SOFT PLUMP TWIN DICKPILLOWSthat is all. carry on.
>>42262287Interesting, honestly I hate my thick hair I inherited from my dad, it is so hard to maintain cause it's just naturally this thick which makes it a problem to maintain, I've just been waiting for it to be a certain length and then when I get the cash, get a professional to sort it out and then learn how to tame it, but even fixing that, a lot of my body is already kinda fucked, but at least my face is sorta cute I guess, some people call it that
>>42262287The hardest part is that it's taken like 2 years to get it to this length and it's been a struggle to figure out how to manage hair cause none of my family will help me so I just gotta cope with doing this all myself
>>42262352On the wages of a fast food worker
