not reading all that
for the love of god dont do it
you will be even more miserable than you already are

>>42247810
how so

>>42247801
you fucking idiot you're a woman, you will never be a man

>>42247988
u right i'll always be a dumb foidy foid pos i should lowkey die

>my face/body/voice is really cute. what if i regret losing my cuteness?
if your face is round and your body is petite that won't change on t. your voice won't change much either, have you ever heard what non voice trained ftms sound like?
>im too short and my bones are too small to pass as a man.
you can butchmode
>my family is transphobic and i have no friends. what if i lose my safety net by pooning out?
sounds like you don't have one anyway
>no woman would ever want a dickless man
again, butchmode
>dressing hyperfem can be fun, especially since i get compliments. i wont get compliments as a man anymore. isn't it wrong to enjoy hyperfem fashion as a man? does enjoying some aspects of femininity mean i'm not trans?
yes and yes but you'll get over the lack of compliments when your brain gets more virilized on t
>i had a really girly childhood. i enjoyed being a girl until i was 11. i still enjoy the girly things i did when i was younger. does this mean i'm not actually trans?
yes but what can you do
>i like my foid body getting compliments and touch. does that mean i'm not trans?
yes but again you're still gonna have a foid body on t
>what if i'm just grooming myself to believe i should poon out and will regret doing so?
how does one even groom themselves?
conclusion: be an hrt butch

>>42247801
Anon, let me to a simple test with you...
What would you do if I were to bend over, presenting my ass to you, and teasing you about fucking me?
Don't you wish to finally get to know the pleasure of penetrating, getting inside of someone as they clench around you?
But you can't do that right? You would prefer to bump with impotence on my butt...

>>42247801
>doesn't want the effects of T on voice and likes female fat distribution and nerve routing

why the hell would you go on T for if youd hate it

Maybe try a low-masculinizing steroid before hrt see if you like a taste of it before risking too much.

>>42248290
what would you recommend? would that be an androgen?

>>42248265
i really really hate being gendered as female, i constantly dissociate in irl social settings, and atp i think t is the only way to fix that. idk how much of hating the potential effects is depersonalization and being pornbrained. hearing my voice come out of myself makes me cringe and want to go mute. hearing my voice disconnected from myself makes me think it's cute.

>>42248214
untrained ftms sound like gay men to me. wouldn't i have to do voice training both ways if i want to pass as butch or male?

>>42248502
wouldn't i have to do voice training both ways if i want to pass as butch or male?
yeah but it's not that hard. people complain about it a lot but it's just laziness.
>t. studmoder currently voice training both ways

>>42248502
would have a masculine voice cause you less discomfort and pain?

and what do you think of moid fat distribution?

>i had a really girly childhood. i enjoyed being a girl until i was 11. i still enjoy the girly things i did when i was younger. does this mean i'm not actually trans?
Yes

>>42248560
>would have a masculine voice cause you less discomfort and pain?
the thought of having a masculine voice makes me excited. i like listening to deep masculine voices and imagining that i can speak like that. but i'm still worried that i'd mourn the voice i currently have. i don't know if it'd cause me discomfort yet- my voice is so feminine that i can only sound like a pathetic tryhard butch rn and editing my voice digitally sounds fake.

>what do you think of moid fat distribution?
again, this is something where i can't tell if my feelings are genuine or being affected by being pornbrained. on one hand, i feel neutral/negative because i think it's unattractive. on the other hand, i lost alot of weight a while ago and seeing the fact that my hips are more prominent due to not having stomach fat to obscure the difference made me have a meltdown.

@grok summarise

>>42247801
keep in mind that you'll never have a functional dick and also your voice is go through male puberty and you will get a deep voice if you start testosterone. this is shit you need to talk to a therapist about. It's a permanent decision to transition because it will permanently change your body. You have to be sure before you start. Good luck!

hell yeah dude you should do it!
i've got a big list of resources somewhere i can copy paste here, if you want

>>42247801
I have a forcemasc fetish, wanna date?

>>42248715
foidtard has had genital and breast dysphoria since the age of 12, and liked being referred to as a man while hating being referred to as a woman. they were girly as a child and are fine with looking feminine as an adult. they want to know if they'll regret transitioning into a moid.

>>42248702
im gonna say some like amab shit to you and im sorry for it but, i dont understand the wishy washyness. either your voice causes you discomfort to a degree that you need to change it, or it doesn't and you can live with it. why would you mourn something that you don't like? its not even mourning something you're ambivalent to its something that you dont like coming out of your body, no?

t will help you get a belly and realllyyyy eat at your thighs fast too

if ur unsure and feel like u will regret transitionthen you are more than likely not trans and you can still be a female and be masculine and do masculine things and wear masculine clothes and present like a pixie cut twink. it's all up to you

>>42248759
yes please, i'd like some resources!

>>42248745
that's another thing that gets me. i'll never be able to get rid of the fact i want a real dick because tdicks don't work like real dicks. i want something functional, not an empty balloon. i'm not sure how to start looking for a therapist, i should really ask for help irl for that.

>already 22
>blabbing about indecision and seeking validation from random ttttrannies rather than transitioning
No man would overthink on this level much less blog about not wanting to lose their cuteness. Even when I was repping I wasn't this fembrained

>>42247801
There's an obnoxious fat little dyke cashier who works at a store that I shop at. You can tell that she wants to be a man and try to show me her tattoos today that look absolutely retarded on a fat little woman. The vibe I get from her is that she feels insecure not that she's a man.

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>>42248812
that's what i sympathize most with FTMs is that their bottom surgery is infinitely worse than mtf bottom surgery although you need to hire the best doctors in the world for top dollar to get something decent.

you can trade my penis if you want. it's tiny though

>>42247801
>dressing hyperfem can be fun, especially since i get compliments
Don't poon out. You won't make it.

>>42247801
Everybody in this thread is a jealous transbian lmao

Do you ever fantasize about botching a suicide attempt, and then you get taken to a hospital and they ask you what’s wrong and you say it’s because you wanted to do This One Thing and nobody supported you, and everybody’s ashamed that they didn’t notice how badly you needed This One Thing, and how they were hurting you, and then the Authority comes in the room and says anon you need This One Thing, I’ll handle everything…

Yeah you’re allowed to just do it. You don’t have to explain yourself to anybody. You are the only one who is actually driving your own life, and if you let go of the wheel nobody is going to take it.

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>>42248958
did you not read any of OP's concerns. unreal

>>42247801
>words words words
I DONT CARE NIGGER, never start testosterone you retarded fembrained whore

>>42248968
I did! OP is obviously trans, he’s just an incel

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>>42248958
Bloods on your hands buddy when she ropes because she's just a ugly deep voiced girl with a beard. they're worried about their voice not being cute which tells me that she hasn't done any research into transitioning.

>>42249055
im already an ugly girl with a beard lol. my body decided to give me facial hair but no dick to eternally taunt me

>>42247801
poon poon pata poon

>>42247801
>i like my foid body getting compliments and touch
>>42249201
>im already an ugly girl
Tits or GTFO
Maybe then, after the dopamine hit from receiving the attention you crave fades, will you move on from this place

>>42248812
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>>42247801
if you need to ask yourself if you should transition you probably shouldn't

>>42247801
Just do it. Testosterone doesnt do anything for a year minimum anyways. Youll still look like a cute foid

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>>42247801
transition but only because youre the perfect age to be andrew graves and you can do st4t incest roleplay hope that helps

okay wait i actually read through the rest of the post and maybe dont if youre into dressing like a girl because that shit is gay as hell,,, i promise you that an ftm dressing in drag is 1000x more of an ick than an ftm not having a penis

>>42247801
I can really relate to that, but
>i like my foid body getting compliments and touch. does that mean i'm not trans?
>TOUCH
tells me that you have a congruent body map, which is different from what is the typical image that is allowed to be propagated. But gender identity can be located in different places, even in other processes of consciousness, we focus on one specific function of perception and experience that is our consciousness.
Our gender can sit in a lot of different places. Your constant issues show that there is some cognitive dissonance you can't reconcile.
Especially being lesbian, voice and asking this in a predominantly transbian place shows me that it can be rooted in a place of interpersonal relation. When we interact consciously with others, we copy brain signals. But because you get gendered female by the other, or even yourself when you listen to your voice as yours, some of these signals get denied, even if they were natural to you. In the same manner, transitioning to a man will also deny you ways of relating to others. That you have no way to overcome this keeps you in terror.

There may be secondary, non gender related issues, shaping the way you handle the situation. I suspect you suffer from thyroid issues, have you got it checked with a radiologist?
Even so, your mind knows you need to do something to reconcile your physical nature into interfacing congruently with interpersonal relations. I think what you actually need is a transition goal that is not rooted in hierarchy, where you can't find either place, but in which there is no fundamental difference in experience. You did that by seeking out lesbianism, and in a way by talking to transbians. Your ideal might be a de-gendered lesbianism, in which you experience as merger of subject and object. Physically, you're expressing a desire of bothness, and that makes you sound like you're aspiring to be a transbian.

You're brain will figure out a way.

t. mtfemrep

>>42247801
try experimenting with roids and enbyism

>>42247801
>my face/body/voice is really cute. what if i regret losing my cuteness?
You won't
t. took hrt for 7 years and still cute
>what if i lose my safety net by pooning out?
You're a man, so it don't matter
>i had a really girly childhood
irrelevant, kid years barely count
>no woman would ever want a dickless man.
you have people here begging for a ftm boyfriend every day

We are so similar OP lets troon out together

>>42247801
You absolutely should not poon out. You should just work on accepting your tit meat and getting plapped, that's your only real issue with being a foid as far as I can see.

You will never have a dick, you won't be cool with facial hair anymore when it's patchy and you're bald, your won't like your voice any better when you have to use it in a masc body, and you won't like being smol and cute when you also get read as a man. You are also correct that you will never again get a compliment and that nobody wants a dickless midget.

Ironically, a microdose of T might be good for you by cranking your libido, it might reconcile you to your female sexual attributes.

>>42247801
you sound like you have gender dysphoria
if you don't want your tits then bind, take some time to make sure, and then go to doctor about it.

you don't have to take t if you don't want to, though it'd help with the voice.

you're the one living in your body. do what you need to, in order to live the most comfortable and fulfilling life you can. just do it carefully.


anyways being dickless is fine. i would probably be worse at sex if i was born with a dick.

The genuine problem here is the part that no one is telling you about. You seem to have a small grasp on what it is but fail to account for the bigger picture of what it means. Did you ever stop to ask yourself what being a man, being a male entails?

Not to be depressing but most men, a majority of them, only have a few friends, most men are lonely, solo going, independent, not because they necessarily want to be, but because that's what "being a man" is. You will find that being a man is cool until you are expected to be the rock, as a man you aren't allowed to cry, not openly. You are not allowed to show feelings that would indicate weakness around other men.

You will find that as a man most people don't want anything to do with you, don't care if you live or die, wont check up on you. You won't be allowed to ask for help you are supposed to be the provider, men build their solutions they don't ask for hand outs, that is seen as weakness, as a failure.
If you are seen with children around you it is usually assumed you are kidnapping them by some Karen unless there is a woman around the children too. People will genuinely be more uncomfortable around you and will not trust your intentions even if you are doing nothing wrong. This in turn will make you feel isolated and extremely alone. This will drive your want to rope faster then anything.

Men will go their whole lives, make 3 friends, be lucky to have 2 girlfriends ever, and be lucky to have sex even just the 1 time. They will remember the girl at the drive through who told them to have a wonderful day for 3 weeks because it was the first act of genuine kindness they got in a very long time.

These are things no one talks about when it comes to being a man. Men don't complain about it, women simply ignore it. It is a cycle that has driven many men and teenage boys to high rope rates. If you think you can genuinely handle the pressure of always feeling like you are alone, then do it, if not, then don't.

>>42253113
this is the average life of a tranny in general

>>42253113
Buddy i hate to break it to you but these are not universal male experiences, you’re just depressed and delusional. Go outside.

>>42247801
it sounds like you have gender dysphoria. a lot of the things you said can be chalked to repping strategies i.e. dressing hyperfem
everyone likes getting compliments, the need for validation will get less on t but:

if your quality of life will be severely reduced by becoming a guy, don't transition. depending on how short and how feminine your bone structure is then your life will suck so much more than just being a butch lesbian if you can never be respected as a guy.
your dating prospects will be reduced, yeah, maybe not by as much as you think because of the amount of transwomen on here that swoon over the idea of st4t, but if you're talking about real women then yeah.
if your dysphoria is debilitating enough to the point where you can't have a fulfilling life through just being butch and letting all the benefits of being a woman carry you through then i feel extremely bad for you, but i wouldn't poon out if you don't have a chance at making it as a guy