sorry i dont know i was a kid t. 32 yo tranny

>>42250388
I'm more like a guy taking hrt who jerks off while crossdressed sometimes than a tranny per se, but I am in my late 30s.
The backlash against trannies in recent years was way more severe than the mild homophobia of the 90s and 2000s in my opinion.
We had some known gay kids in my high school in the 2000s and nothing bad happened to them as far as I know, beyond maybe someone making a joke about one of them being gay.

>>42250523
sup twin i feel like a freak i hope i can get through this

>>42250388
i wish i had 30 trannies all lined up to choose a wife from

32 yr old tranny, 00's were much much worse for lgbtq, people were a lot more violent. I would say it aligns generally with the crime graphs if i had to mentally map how it's been over the years. I kinda feel like having an outlet to scream at people online has lessened the in person hatred and issues I've experienced.

>>42250388
Early 200s was very similar for gays
The talking points were similar

definition of marriage -> definition of woman
forced to bake cake for fags -> forced to use pronouns
they are turning the kids gay -> they are turning the kids trans
how should I explain to my kids, that 2 men are holding hands -> how should I explain to my kids, that uncle Werner is now aunt Wilma
Gays in military -> trans in military

Same shit
Conservatives are just hateful and evil

>>42251682
its worse now for trannies than back then for gays, dick cheney had a lesbian daughter and no one held him up for it while if vance had a trans child he wouldnt be allowed anywhere in republican party let alone be a vice president

>>42251810
Was it crazy to think in the 90s-00s about gay or lesbian republicans? How long till we get trans republicans?

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>>42250388
Almost 40 troon here who transitioned in her teens. I had to transfer school and even churches a few times. We'd go to a church, I'd hang around the girls, people would get aggressive, parents would change church.

By the time I joined public school, I was approaching my teen years, and people would immediately peg me as feminine and "gay". I'd get beat up a lot. People would smash my reading glasses. I had a few students try to kill me between classes for "being gay". I was forced to use the boys, and when I started growing breasts at 12 (kleinfelters), the boys figured out and started beating the shit out of me for it. They'd slap me across the chest to watch me double over in pain. This then progressed to them trying to kill me, saying, "I'm going to kill you faggot". They got caught.

They were rewarded for being brave to stand up to me.

I was suspended.

Transfered schools again, hid my breasts as best I could, put up a hard anti-LGBT front, and waited out HS. I was eventually allowed to use the teacher bathrooms because people kept trying to beat the shit out of me. The facade didn't work, though. Apparently, everyone thought I was effeminate gay, so me transitioning in full surprised literally no one.

I skipped gym for safety reasons.

But if you were passing and stealthish, you were relatively safe.

I had a former friend and classmate make up a false rape accusation against me because I didn't sleep with him. Everyone believed him.

The trans panic of now is, honestly, about the same, but we are way more visible now, so it's riskier. However, at least we can use hospitals without being arrested for stealing our own identities. Yes, that actually happened to me.

>>42251878
I was one in part until recently. Not a Democrat, though. Fuck them all. All politicians are NPD asshats who should be lynched.

>>42252067
cont.
I think we have it worse than gays, especially now. Gays, it was a, "they are disgusting and should do it over there and not around me," sort of thing in the late '90s. We didn't have a state apparatus literally declaring gays and lesbians domestic terrorists. Gays and lesbians were very much under a "don't ask don't tell" you can be gay but just don't talk about it sort of deal within the government and military.

Being transsexual puts you on an FBI watch list that restricts travel. You can murder a trans person and basically get away with it even if caught. We're basically the old school definition of outlaws.

I'd say now is closer to being gay in the 1960s, but even back then, transsexuals had it *way worse* than gays. Like, any hint, and you'd be doped up to the eyeballs on antipsychotics until you had enough lucidity to escape and DIY or kill yourself.

>>42250388
Only saw the 2000s. Mr. Garisson south Park episodes are good for it. There was some worries about teachers being gay which feels a little trans panicky and gay jokes but in general people weren't nearly as worried as they are over trans now.

I think 80s and 90s much worse for gays tho.

>>42252243
No, as bad as gays had it, we had it worse. Way worse. Like, couldn't hold down a job if discovered worse. Was legal to murder worse. Was illegal to go outside as yourself worse.

>>42250388
You don’t talk about it, lgbt stuff was considered socially taboo where I grew up, so faggotry unless a bi woman was treated as being disgusting and worthy of ridicule, but adults fucking kids was totally just swept under the rug:/ I also have genital issues, namely I didn’t have descended testes and had a more female puberty (Teflon baby lol) but was bullied and harassed relentlessly, so acceptance was never there it used to be soo bad, if my hair was slightly past acceptably male I’d get gum mashed in it only to go home and be told I looked gay and get the clippers :( I also had fo go to sex corrective therapy because of my faggotry, my parents were unhappy at me and it instilled a deep resentment of myself, so I became an alcoholic developed an ED, and self harmed constantly but the drinking led to me just not caring or paying attention to the world around me so like in 2011-12 I wasn’t paying attention and got stomped for being a faggy effeminate small guy, I learned then I should just hide every part of myself and well the rest is a mess.’people today even though it’s rough with culture war shit I think are lucky in comparison

>>42252268
Oh it was always def relatively harder for trannies.
I'm more comparing modern 2020s trannies to 1980s gays rather than 1980s gays to 1980s trannies.

>No, as bad as gays had it, we had it worse.
I would quibble. While legally and socially true, gays also had to deal with AIDS. If trannies had a bio agent targeting them specifically that'd be scary in a whole separate way. So while in terms of stasi, state apparatus, etc trannies have it worse we lack an equivalent to the AIDS crisis I think?
There might be something like we need to take hrt and to go through surg and stuff but still seems not as bad as early AIDS stuff

>>42252303
I am not binding my breasts ever again. Fuck you.

>>42250388
gay panic back until the 2010s was also mostly aids panic, nowadays it's just hate for the sake of grifting.

>>42252355
Ironically, the AIDS is what caused gay acceptance. It killed off all of the crazy anonymous sex with a hundred men in a bath house gay, and it hurt the non crazy ones. People felt bad when they saw their chill friends dying.

But yeah, it was rough.

I don't think we'll ever have an AIDS moment.

>>42252413
Fags still do that shit all the time

>>42252434
Now that prep is a thing, it's back, yes. They're gonna see all that acceptance vanish right quick.

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>>42250388
in the 2000s you had straights claiming they accepted you while all their TV was filled with caricatures of you. my mother once laughed while an older male friend of hers SAd me after i said i said drag was kinda gross (he was in a shitty little princess costume or whatever while hairy and bald).

also if you grow up in a rough neighbourhood you should probably get used to being the target of physical violence. even if youre not out they can smell somethings off with you and theyll assault you for just being weak looking.

>What made the reputation and acceptance grow during the 21st century?
straight people blowing smoke up their own asses and corporate culture leaning into it for corporate LGBT publicity while making sure none of that money actually went to advancing our causes or protecting us in any way from marginalisation.

>>42252355
So what I'm getting was
>trans stuff being more visible is a problem
>Trans 2020s is like gay 70-80s?
>AIDS crisis helped gay movement? I never thought about that one, I always saw it more negative

>>42252516
It's so weird watching 2000s show(live action specially) and seeing how often a gay or drag joke would happen, either caricatures or flat out jokes to mock

So wait till 2030s or 2040s where being trans will be "cool" and "protected" by corporate

>>42252165
early 30s tranny here. a lot of that parallels my experiences as a closeted femmefag come eventual tranny. people just felt entitled to be violent to me and there was usually very little consequence for it. granted, as you say the extremity is completely different. i think being less openly not them spares you some of their malice.

>>42252321
yeah, i do think zoomers and later just have no comprehension of the way violence used to be just a completely normal part of growing up gay or trans. i really kinda envy them for that, though i know its not exactly sunshine and rainbows now.

>>42252547
looking forward to trans medical care still being dogshit, tons of child abuse still being normal, poverty and homelessness being as much if not more prevalent, and the hets patting themselves on the back for having found it in themselves to tolerate us.

>>42252581
>>>>42252321 (You) #
yeah, i do think zoomers and later just have no comprehension of the way violence used to be just a completely normal part of growing up gay or trans. i really kinda envy them for that, though i know its not exactly sunshine and rainbows now

I think one of the main differences now is that back then like when I was met with violence and being assaulted i was met with the an unempathetic shrug like i was met with “don’t make yourself a target” and “are you sure you didn’t cause this?” And then nothing further was ever discussed while today I feel like situations like my own are far more vocalized and broadcasted as well as condemned (however people are far more openly vile and hateful as well especially in their attitude towards victims )

>>42252643
yeah, they cant sweep it under the rug so much nowadays so its very much a game of save face or back beating the shit out of a child for it. i think most people have the sense to not openly be the latter unless its very safe socially for them but i dont think the actual sentiments have changed.

im actually really kinda glad were drifting away from the "dont make yourself a target" mindset overall though, because fuck if it isnt insidious.

I can only speak to my country but in the UK it was different. We still had section 28 so the 'promotion of homosexuality' was banned in public institutions and it created this atmosphere were people were widely closeted and the culture more generally was different as a result. I think that gave the impression to normies that being LGBT was rare and unusual. Trans especially like people had no idea what trans people were. So for most people we were just not thought about. Idk what it was like for lesbians but being a gay boy back then was like people would just bully you for it which was different too I suspect. Though I have no idea what life is life for gay kids in 2026. I used to have people go 'backs against the wall' when I walked into PE changing rooms for example which I suppose is similar in some ways to how trans women are imagined as sexual aggressors. Its funny as in both instances they have no idea what a bottom is and assume that gay men back then, or trans women now, are constantly trying to fuck everything. I get the impression it is different now in some ways though. Back then I think being mean to gay men was a performative macho thing 90% of the time. Whereas now anti-tranny hysteria feels more diffuse through society. One other difference is material in that trans people need healthcare and require the ability to socially transition. Whereas gay people just needed to not be actively mistreated. So the pushback here feels more targeted against things trans people need to live a normal life, vs back then when it was more focused on purely brutalising gay people. The focus is different.

>>42252643
My experience was, "this wouldn't happen to you if you didn't act so gay/girly."

Problem was, I had no idea how I was "acting" a certain way. All I knew was I had to hide all emotions. But the moment I got excited. The moment I got really happy, sad, or anything else, the moment I forgot to hide and try to force my voice low, the young woman would come bubbling out like a vomit of flowers, tears, and sunshine. And the *moment* others saw it, there was no putting the genie back in the bottle. They knew.

Zoomers grew up under false acceptance. So they haven't learned to spot the predators amongst their midst.

>>42252525
>>AIDS crisis helped gay movement? I never thought about that one, I always saw it more negative
Yes I think so. People didn't want them dead. Sadness, sympathy, etc. I think while it killed many gays it helped the gay movement politically. There was also a lot of pop culture, etc. influenced by it which shaped social perceptions.
Many trans women/hsts of course have/had AIDS too and having AIDS remains the biggest sign of being a trutrans huss or trutrans gayden. The gaydens who died of AIDS in the 80s perhaps went further than any of us.

>Trans 2020s is like gay 70-80s?
Maybe 60s-70s. There was a time sodomy was illegal in places like Texas and prosecuted but legal in places like Illinois. So similar blue/red state stuff to what we have now. Bowers vs. Hardwick was a big 1980s case about this and made gay sex decriminalized nation wide.
>trans stuff being more visible is a problem
Hmm. I think ultimately as long as humans are humans it's ideal for trans who are already transitioned to be stealth and for normies to know as little of them as possible. However, for people actively transitioning or who would need to know about transition more public info is good. But yea public info does lead to more social backlash.

>>42250388
The gay panic of the 2000s didn't exist at all at least not where I live. People would call you faggot but that's not the same thing. You could even dress like a girl and in most cases somebody might think it was stupid but nobody was mobilizing hate mobs to kill you. Things might have been different in Florida or Montana as these are different countries and they do not share our culture but in the nation of New England where I was raised you could be a faggot and the worst reaction was someone might crack a joke. A lot of people would say they don't like gays who make it their whole personality or simply to keep gay stuff away from them but nobody was accusing us of being part of some woke global terror plot or putting Satan in schools.

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>>42250388
well, gay panic meant like they kill someone and then say oops but it's not their fault, since their victim was gay and a lot of ppl were like 'oh yeh that makes sense' and others were like 'even tho they are gay maybe they still don't deserve to die...'
movies and media representation was all about the worst stereotypes, gay men as villains or flamer hair stylist best friend in romcoms, trans were basically nonop drag queens in movies and usually villains or street walker characters
I think the first b-movie tier sort of well known portrayal of trans that wasn't stereotypes was basically the story of an ftm that got murdered if I recall correctly
talk shows like donahue were clumsy but more well meaning, by the time it got to jerry springer it turned real nasty w/ how it treated and depicted trans women
politically I recall sometimes ppl would argue that they don't mind if someone wants to live a certain life but yadda yadda they should pay it themselves, or only some operations but nothing cosmetic
I think what changed was mostly millennials on the internet had no parents and could decide a lot of things for themselves for a good 10-15 years before big business locked it back down
it was also more obvious that ppl just wanted to live their lives, and since there was no social media, there was no like... incentive to draw the kind of mass attention that exists now, it was all in its own communities, so if there was someone melting down on one website nobody heard about it anywhere else basically
what I mean is like u might know one or two ppl that are gay or trans in a small community for a hobby or local or w/e, but they weren't expected to know about or have an opinion on what someone else did or said
like even rowling was basically just a nearly anonymous author like most authors

so like... basically it was pretty bad, internet killed old media and made it better, then capitalism killed old internet and made it worse

>>42250388
40yo tranner here. 90s and 00s were far worse than the current period. When I was in HS everything bad was 'gay'. You heard people saying it constantly. Trans people were universally regarded as sexworkers and or sissy pervs. There was virtually no medical care. Kids these days have absolutely no idea how much the world has changed, yes it retreated a little bit but emphasis on little.

Third worlder here
It was common for transwomen to get killed all the time in hatecrimes and for media and society to make fun of them

>>42252739
This is where for me, I was sent to therapy to stop being effeminate, fake voices, learn to talk right, stop swaying, no crying, etc ntm the hard line of if you behave this way you’ll get raped and die of aids or somebody could murder you. I went through this day after day for almost a decade, and like I’ve tried to talk to people who zoomies and it feels like they’re a million miles away from what I went though, they didn’t have the experience of having bones broken because your not like everybody else, they have support and a culture of validation, the more I think about it, it makes sense why my life feels so lonely even with people around me

>>42250388
It was worse in the early 2000s.
The current trans panic is a walk in the park compared to the early days of my transition (started in 2007).

>What made the reputation and acceptance grow during the 21st century?
In my country it was mostly people getting chiller overall, imo.
Legislation got accepting in mid 1990s but that didn't change society. People getting richer and being less concerned about the lives of others was what drove the acceptance upwards for every non-conformist, not just for trannies and fags. Lesbians never had an issue to begin with in the last 150 years in my corner of the world.

>will be 43 in a month

>>42257846
>>42257783
>>42257640
Im noticing how every tranny or gay guy who's between 35-45 will say "zoomers stfu you don't know bad it was"

And the common trend is violence, how beating up someone for being gay was normal in every school, how every queer stuff in movies was seen as a joke character or haha funny, authoritnities not caring, conversion being a thing

>>42257902
kinda but I think what is missing in the description is the implicit threat of violence and harassment, and how that would loom over ppl's lives and decisions
coming out wasn't something u did on social media, for some it wasn't something u did at all unless u move to certain cities

>>42257846
I started as a teen in the early 2000s. Yeah, it was really bad. I wasn't able to hold down a legitimate job at all until 2010, and then I had this huge, unexplainable gap in my work history that I just could not talk about in polite company.

>>42257902
2 years in to HRT, my cousins, who hadn't seen me in years, met me again at a Christmas party. They raped me in the basement while telling me about "how much of a girl" I had become. Guess who became the black sheep of the family. Guess who suffered no consequences. Everyone saw me as dramatic and crazy, a liar. The only person who believed me was my grandmother, who found me sobbing in the shower the next morning all messed up.

I couldn't remember the whole event, so I was obviously making it up.

>>42257783
Fuck, I remember my dad giving me the "boys will say and do anything to get into your pants," talk as a teen. I was asexual at the time and very confused about it. It didn't make sense until after HRT where I figured everything out.

>>42258541
>"boys will say and do anything to get into your pants,"

One of the most heartbreaking things for a MTF tranny gotta be realizing how many or your male friends are creeps

>>42250388
unironically ecstacy during the 90s

Would any of the older ppl have tips on how to prevent gay slips? Im boymoding but also cannot pass so im concerned about being outed as anything remotely queer
Im not in a very accepting area despite being "first world" and while im not at a risk of being physically assaulted in this era, any slip of the cishet mask tends to have immediate consequences of either avoidance or some nasty looks or on some occasions slurs.


Hope ur all healing from your traumas, and thank you for sharing these stories, they mean a lot

>>42259317
Low falsetto, 1-2 octaves below your normal voice if too high and causes attraction, don’t be excited about stuff, always agree with group speak or not say anything at all or definitive, dress neutral, muted tones hide your body, having mosaicism I developed a lot of secondary female characteristics as a kid, if you need pants that can hide a feminine body Levi’s athletic cut pants are great, they’re usually for athletes but they’re great for ftms to appear more masculine same with boymoding, learn to keep distance it’s lonely but if you’re in a bad area it’s safe

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Wow, depressing thread. Now I'm feeling kind of guilty for not suffering enough in life. I've been thinking of giving in and transitioning, but seeing how everyone back then was basically already super feminine by nature and got heavily punished for it, while the most attention I got for my behavior was a random girl asking if I was gay or not, and maybe a half-hearted joke or two by classmates. I don't feel like I deserve it, y'know?

But this isn't about me, I've got a question for the old trannies.
Do you think that kind of society and behavior can someday return, or are we over that for good? Sometimes I see how conservative the whole world is getting and I honestly have no idea if it's just a phase or if we're in for the long haul.
t. zoomer repper

>>42250388
>How was the gay panic or jokes during the 80s-00s? Is it comparable to the trans panic of the 2020s?

I realized I was trans in '03, came out in '05, physically transitioned '09, for reference. It was very similar actually, though not as artificial. This shit is a result of intentional lies, algo boosting, and media/social media takeover. The anti-gay stuff, while definitely campaigned on and lied about by Republicans and evangelicals, was at least a little more grassroots. People thought gays were sort of yucky without being blasted with a million slanted news stories and thinkpieces.

The similar part is hysteria about "the kids," claims of grooming, social contagion, "just let them grow out of this phase without physical harm" (AIDS instead of surgery, though), suspicion of teachers and higher education, conversion therapy advocacy, etc. Very very similar. Conservatives tend to recycle talking points.

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>What made the reputation and acceptance grow during the 21st century?

A lot of work. Trans people were reviled and mocked, but in terms of were we secretly trying to change the culture so we could do SA/CSA or whatever, that was not as much a thing. we weren't under suspicion like that. So like with any minority, some trans people fought through all the social disadvantages to make it as entertainers, authors, politicians, researchers, doctors, etc, and tried to put their best foot forward. I spent 2004-2010 helping run and start GSAs, teaching workshops for school administrators, speaking to my representatives.

The Republicans eventually lost on gay marriage, and increasingly integration of openly gay people made it easier for all queer people to be out. so we just fought. we tried to stay out and not go stealth (which is what the norm was previously), to try to secure job, medical, educational, housing, protections, to have there be well-written medical standards for HRT use, youth transition, etc. To stay alive, make friends and partners, start families, help each other.

And because we are for the most part normal people, that worked. Things got better than I would have imagined back in 2003. The backlash to the trans rights movement had to be intentionally engineered, and use the dirtiest of tactics, and it had a couple of false starts.

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>>42259909
imo it won't return until Earth starts to really revolt against us and access to resources becomes scarce
tranny militias will form, that'll be fun

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Feels so bad I never had any of these terrible things happen to me but I still ended up a complete basket case despite having good chances in life
t. 32 year old tranny

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>>42259909
Don't feel bad about it. I am emotionally scarred for life, and can never trust anyone. Push people I love away from me, etc.

I will say, at least this time, the push back isn't organic. It's coming out of corporations and governments, and people can tell. But also we're so odd, the majority of people will never accept us. I suspect the democrats will drop us in the 2030s for public image reasons. Our existence is too divisive.

We'll probably go back, in part, to the underground. But it won't be as bad as we are now medically accepted. We've got enough medical and neurological evidence this shit is legit that there is no real going back to how it was.

Self medding will probably end up the norm again, and you will have to vet doctors once again. Although, you should be vetting your doctors.

Ladies, if you see TIM on your medical chart with numbers that are your age near by, fire that doctor/nurse and report them.

>>42263776
How was vetting doctors back in the day?

Do you think Dems or left movement dropping us as a whole will be the thing in the future?

>>42263798
Well, to give you an idea, there is a reason every older tranny lies to doctors about their periods. Vetting is basically trial and error. Come out, see how they react, FOIA your medical records. If you see TIM, or M, even when you are 2 decades in and post op, then you know he's ideologically opposed to the point of ignoring medical data and knowledge. Report, drop.

I've been denied medicine unrelated to trans stuff, antibiotics, steroids for runaway immune system nonsense, allergy meds, eye glasses (seriously) because of my status.

I've had 2 surgeons claim to do orchiectomy with the explanation over the phone of what was going on. I show up, they take my money for the consult, only to be like, "I don't work with faggots." Another one was licensed to do the surgery in the doctors office outside of an OR (it's a minor procedure). We did the consult, we agreed on pricing. Then suddenly he turned around and changed the pricing because he thought transsexuals had money, and refused to do it outside of an OR. Spoilers, he will do it in the office while you wait for testicular cancer patients for less than 1 grand out of pocket with no insurance.

Basically, get ready to be scammed. A lot.

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>>42263861
Oh, forgot the dems thing. I think we will be dropped. People fail to understand, we are NOT popular within the working and lower classes. We're too easy to use as a divisive psychological weapon. So we will be quietly dropped. They may continue to push back in the sense that they will fight tooth and nail to keep us from being banned... but we are going to lose the insurance fight. Again. It's the 1980s all over again.

Fun fact. Blanchard's typology was quack research to basically say trans people were fake in totality to get us removed from health insurance back in the 1980s because we used to be covered by some policies. Kaiser Permanente didn't like this and wanted to get rid of paying for it, so they hired a few sexology researchers to fake research to say it was effectively a cosmetic procedure and nothing else. It's why Blanchard and Raymond's papers flies in the face of all research, both before and after. Both had a personal agenda too.

Get ready for even more quack research.

>>42250388
About to hit 40, grew up in central europe. I was bullied for being "gay" somewhat, and its true that no one helped you back then, including your friends and teachers, unless there was serious physical violence. There was zero talk about being trans, no info, no real healthcare, no representation. I was a part of my local lgbt scene as a teen, and there were no trans people (everyone openly shat on bisexuals too lol).
When I told my female, liberal, sometimes gay friends about my gender feels, they didnt really respond or just straight up told me no, that im not trans. Same for everyone else, people just kinda didnt have a concept of transness even very liberal and alt ones.
You could get harassed in public for looking different, robbed, or beaten up of very unlucky. I somehow avoided most of that, but I did get randomly beaten up once at a very alt place while surrounded with my friends (who did nothing to help me for the most part kek).
Things are now infinitely better. Open cruelty and violence is no longer socially acceptable. Theres healthcare. Theres very good DIY if youre not retarded. Thers community and people to look up to. Half of it could be taken away, and it would still be so much better than 20 years ago.

>>42263887
I'm not familiar with everything but where did you find that out about Blanchard's stuff? I know Blanchard apparently like, only let a small portion of the patients who came to his clinic move forward in transition with him, but he did write something at some point arguing in favor of Canada's public health system covering transition care

>>42250388

Gay panic was bad during those times, in many ways it was worse because people physically bullied gays more often in public. There was lots of branding of gays as pedos. However there was less of an emphasis on "erasing" gays from existence. In fact as one 90s movie said, the more the right seethed at people for being gay, the more of them there seemed to be every year, for a whilest least.

My guess is when trans people stabilize at like 1-3% of the population and stop increasing the panic will end and we will become pretty much forgotten about as the next crisis becomes robots or Chinese people.

>>42263861
So only research for doctors who are specialized in trans related patients?

>>42263987
It was always infamous in trans circles from the inception. It's still full of shit. Blanchard the Butcher would often try to fill you full of testosterone before letting you transition first too. He did this throughout the 90s. There was a reason he was kicked out of the DSM committee on us.

>>42263887
I wonder what it will take for this to go up ...feels like we are in the 50s or 60s for gay....

>>42264010
Nothing. We're too weird. All we need is to be seen as weird background people. Zoomers are obscenely authoritarian. I only see it getting worse.

>>42264006
Jesus

>>42264017
>Were too weird
I fear the only solution is something weirder coming up body wise, eugenics, prosthetic limbs becoming better than human limbs
>Zoomers are obscenely authoritian
I either see "ALL TRANS PEOPLE ARE EVIL" or "ACCEPT ALL TRANS PEOPLE AND FUCK YOU BIGOT"

>>42259909
>Do you think that kind of society and behavior can someday return, or are we over that for good?
Depends on the country (or area within the country) and economic conditions.
Berlin of the 1920s was far more accepting than Berlin of any moment in my life, for instance.
Meanwhile, my country had lesbian brothels in 1930, while now all prostitution is technically illegal. And that's in spite people of the 1930s being technically more conservative than the population of 2026.
Point being, it's complicated. Nothing stays truly fixed when it comes to politics (any politics really).
You can choose to be full of anxiety all the time (and make it even worse by repping) or you can choose to self-actualize and face the problems one at a time IF or when they appear.
Many things could have turned out bad for me. Some actually did, but most didn't.

Live life for yourself, nona.

>zoomer repper
Stop reeping. Fr, no cap, kek

>43yo tranny

>>42250388
>What made the reputation and acceptance grow during the 21st century?
Unironically, the anti-bullying, anti-violence, and child services stuff in schools. Even if it's not specifically targeted at anti-LGBT shit. Just any kind of reduction in violence during kids' formative years is going to make them more empathetic and less prone to violence. And even if it's not universal and there is still "a bully" in every school, it's better than literally everyone getting in on the action.
We managed to fix the lead crisis. We managed to fix the asthma crisis (automobile emissions standards). We're still working on childhood violence, but it's actively getting better.

>>42250388
34 bi mtf
In some ways its better in some ways its worse. I can't speak for what red states kids are going through but it seems like it actually might be as bad or worse for them than it was for us. When we were kids millennials werw shockingly liberal, pretty open to GNC behavior as teens and the culture outside of neo cons was moving towards acceptance. You could find LGBT clubs at your schools and there were allies.
Now school clubs are being banned, in school attacks are rising, we are in the news all of the time and attacking us is the most important right wing issue.
Id say its mildly safer given that I grew up getting assaulted and having bottles thrown at me regularly as a teen

>>42266667
I dunno, I'm one of the oldfags above, and I was in a blue state and area. They STILL let thay shit happen.

>>42259909
Don't feel bad
I'm 34 and still suffer from the life experiences I had between starting grade school and the end of high school and thats not even getting into having to live through twinkdeath and having to live as a MAN from 22-30.

Ve glad you missed it, ten years ago I was so happy zoomers wouldn't have to grow up with the bigotry millenials dealt with.
I feel like we failed you by not holding it down and not doing enough to stop 2015-2025+

>>42250388
In the 90s punks werent mostly queer like they are now. The were homophobic straight men who would regularly attack people for being emo or queer. Most people thought being "transvestite" was a kink thing so they thought u were a creep or pedophile and justified violence. I think part of why it got accepted was school shootings got bad so people were aware that social rejects could be dangerous. This caused a short lived Anti bullying culture. At the same time tumblr was spreading college intersectional feminist discourse to children which made people suddenly aware of "transgender" people. We were lumped in with the gays during the gay marriage campaign which doing well. Then republicans decided to fuck us in 2016ish

bump

>>42257846
Kazakhstan?

>>42250388
i don't know, i was born in the end of 1996 and turn 30 this year
i guess it was bad. it was bad during my middle school and high school (2010s)

how old are you op

>>42266865
Same, I’m these anons (>>42252643
>>42252321 ) but I’d say western Pennsylvania is a vote blue and hold strong strong Christian morality, like we had pray at the pole, prayer at the lockers, fuck I remember a kid in my class would wear shirts like “nothing like a fag drag”(racing parody), “silly faggot dicks are for chicks”(trix parody) and “nothing runs like a queer” (John deer parody), our history teacher was even an avid holocaust denier. Blue or red didn’t matter then and certainly not now.
Holy fuck I’m remembering a lot today, like on the “day of silence” I was punched in the back of the head and my face smashed on the desk, this was during class and the teacher did nothing … I’m surprised I’m a more of a functional person than what I am

>>42252739
>My experience was, "this wouldn't happen to you if you didn't act so gay/girly."
>Problem was, I had no idea how I was "acting" a certain way. All I knew was I had to hide all emotions.

Same.

>>42250388
30+? You must mean 40+. Babies of the 90s are in our 30s and we don't remember much of that.