about 2y ago I realized I’m not trans and decided to detroon. I got rid of all my fem clothes, cancelled all my laser appts and stopped talking to all troons. I felt a lot happier for a while, like I was finally free from a horrible chapter of my life. Problem is I haven’t been able to stop taking e. I don’t even think it’s bc I like the effects on my body which have been pretty minimal, I think it’s mostly bc the last time I stopped I started having agp thoughts again which made me go insane for a week or so. Ever since then I’ve been procrastinating stopping. Thinking about maybe trying ssris to block my sex drive while I go off do u think that would work?
>>42258139you're an HRT repper now
>>42258155I’m not a repper tho, I literally have zero desire to be female anymore
>>42258179wait tell me more... your agp thoughts have a correlation wiht estrogen? if so i think i might want to take estrogen to stop my agp thoughts
>>42258179>have zero desire to be female>take female hormones
>>42258139You were supposed to get vaginoplasty before detrooning, dummy
>>42258139so you're a woman that dresses like a mancool story
>>42259153Estrogen reduces your sex drive so agp thoughts are reduced. It doesn’t happen to all agps tho bc some are actually trans and others have a higher natural sex drive than me. I would recommend other meds for reducing sex drive tho, if you take e you’ll prob end up miserable like me>>42260076I don’t want to be female anymore but obviously there was a time when I though I did but I realized it was just a fetish thing
>>42258179You are actively taking hormones to reduce your desire to be a womanYou are retarded.
>>42260762no, taking hormone made me realize the desire was entirely fetishistic, I’m just having trouble getting off of it
>>42260787>Takes ibuprofen for a headache>Headache goes away
>>42260944much like my fetish, a headache is not an identity
>>42260131Imagine the grift money
>>42261500no one cares about male detrooners
>>42261420Problem is when you've been on E for a long time, just like what happens with bodybuilders (anyone taking exogenous hormones) is your body isn't gonna make any for a while.It's not like the moment you stop taking estradiol and your levels return to normal do your gonads actually work. People who take steroids have the same thing happen, your balls are atrophied and normal production can take a *long* time to come back if it ever does. If you're serious about getting function back as a guy it's gonna be a bit painful and is gonna require money for blood tests and meds and what not.What you're gonna do is essentially the same thing roider guys do inbetween cycles or when getting off roids. The meds risk here ranges from not that bad to potentially having vision problems but i'll put together a basic Detransition/PCT protocol for you.Step 1: Stop taking estradiol. What type of estradiol were you taking? Longer acting forms are gonna be tougher than shorter acting ones. If you were taking pills it's not that bad, if you were on injections it's gonna be rougher. Find a source for enclomifine citrate and HCG.Step 2: After 4 half lives of the respective type of estradiol you were on (google it, enanthates like 5 days pills are like 24 hours) then go get bloodwork done that includes at minimum your estradiol level, though testosterone and LH/FSH are also good bonus points but not necessary at this stage. I can already tell you that testosterone is gonna be low and LH/FSH are gonna be near undetectable.Step 3: If your estradiol level is under 40-50pg/mL then you're ready to start taking the meds. If your levels are still in the 100's then you need to wait longer.Step 4: follow this protocolWeek 1-2: 750 IU HCG 3.5X per week. This means every other day. Probably nothing will happen yet but your testes will start waking up again.week 2-3 500 IU HCG 2x per week.week 3-4 Stop HCG, Start taking enclomifine at 25mg per day
>>42261626>>42261420At week 4 you can either stick to 25mg per day until week 6, or go down to 12.5mg if the sides are too rough.Ideally you stick with this for another month or two.Get blood work done that includes FSH/LH and Testosterone and check if above 350ng/dL. If so, titrate down over the next few weeks. If not, then it's gonna take longer.Enclomifine isn't as rough on sides as clomifine. I do not suggest using regular clomifine or tamoxifin though both will achieve the same thing (diff dose though and with potentially more side effects.).
>>42261660Anyway from a pharmacological point of view that's my take on detrooning. Psychologically though, I can't help with that. Go see a therapist.
>>42258139The best cure for AGP thoughts is straight sex with a cisgendered woman that you're attracted to. Or at minimum topping another man if you prefer those.Stay away from trans stuff for a while, as much as they talk about brainworms a lot of AGP stuff is in itself wormy as fuck.
>>42261667thanks for giving actual advice tho I’m not too concerned about having normal T levels I just want to stop taking estrogen in fact it would be nice to avoid certain effects of T like sex drive as I mentioned>>42261762I haven’t dated since high school (almost 10y ago) so idk how that would work and my ideal self would be asexual, sex and sexuality in general just makes me really uncomfortable. Staying away from trans stuff definitely helps tho I didnt go on this board for over a year and felt a lot better then
