if trannies weren't social conservatives, they wouldn't "transition" in the first place

>>42274711
I really feel attuned to my socially conservative chud-to-tranny nature sterilizing myself and disappointing my father

>>42274696
honestly when i first transitioned i was a big naive lefty that listened to everyone else but now im more apolitical and say some things other trannies might not agree with, at least off this site

>>42274731
you feel your father would have been hurt more if you were just a normal loud and proud out faggot, that's why you transitioned instead

>>42274696
I don't feel embarrassed at all. I would've never transitioned without the chud phase. Heck, I would've roped most likely.

>>42274711
Not even wrong. Also, without social conservatism, I would've never even tried to love my feminine identity and would've ended up being a hon.

>>42274753
Good for you
>>42274761
He would be happier that way because at least I would still have my balls and could theoretically impregnate someone.
>>42274767
I am embarrassed enough to make up for your lack of embarrassment.

>>42274767
Your identity is anything but feminine. You are a loser male who transitioned to have a relationship with yourself.

>>42274779
>because at least I would still have my balls and could theoretically impregnate someone.
he realizes you are a faggot either way though and doesn't want you spreading those genes, you are a failure no matter what, and that shame led you to deball yourself

>>42274790
>realizes you are a faggot either way though and doesn't want you spreading those genes
You really don't understand parents with grandchild fever.

>>42274800
The actions you took speak to the social pressures around you.

>>42274783
>You are a loser male
I was, yes. Total failure as a dude.

>who transitioned to have a relationship with yourself
I sent the link to this thread to my bf. Maybe he's bored enough on his way home to answer lol.
I realize most people on this board hate themselves and project but you wishing everyone fails says a lot about you.
Maybe one day you'll find love. I'll pray for you.

>>42274832
Meta-attraction

>>42274696
I had one of those "8 years ago today..." photos pop up on my phone a few days ago, and it was a picture of my computer screening with Payday 2 on it, a game which I used to play while listening to the ben shapiro show, or a variety of chud youtubers like james allsup, sargon, crowder, etc. i was such a fucking tool & used to bully the couple of trannies on my social discord servers. one of them literally told me that she thought i would transition in a few years and i called her a faggot. jokes on her, it wasnt a few years, it was like a half decade...i deserve my fate as an ugly twinkhon

>>42274767
Why would you end up a hon due to not loving feminine identity?

>>42274696
Really. How can you go from being something based and wholesome like a chud to being an uncanny tranny? Like you had it figured out before. How can you turn into something so lame and gay?

>>42274871
I also had a tranny tell me a couple years before I trooned that I sounded like I would do it. I told her to kill herself and I feel kind of bad about it now.
>>42274884
Being a chud isn't really wholesome. I was miserable and hated myself just as much as I hate everyone else. The misery probably made me susceptible to tranny worms.

>>42274874
Because realistically most hons just don't truly love and embrace their feminine identity. I'm talking here about those I encountered IRL, not these crazy online spaces.
A lot of self-hating hons actually do pass or are very close to passing and having a massively improved life. But they stop trying because ultimately they don't love themselves. And that seeps into every other aspect of their lives. It's quite sad, really. And also terrifying to me because I was very close to that happening to me too.
TL;DR: Not all hons but far too many hons just don't love their feminine identity and that's why they stay hons

>>42274901
>The misery probably made me susceptible to tranny worms
But did it work, though?
Are you happier now?

>>42274903
That's me how do I fix myself I'm broken :(

>>42274912
Marginally. If nothing else it's nice being not angry all the time.

>>42274913
You accept being a vagbro

>>42274901
igwym. i regret not making a friend at the time & instead ending up without any

>>42274916
Time to graduate, nona.
Learning to love yourself is a process.
Not being angry helps and it's a necessary condition. But not sufficient.

>>42274945
nta but how do i stop hating myself? is that even a real thing? it sounds like cope.

>>42274871
Damn you weren’t even a based chud, you were a kiked out shabbos goy chud. You probably do deserve unhappiness as a result.
>>42274696
Be happy now that you’re more truly yourself

>>42275000
>it sounds like cope
This is why I don't even bother responding anymore. And it's probably why so many older anons and nonas stopped responding on this board and slowly drifted away.
You people WANT to hate yourselves. You don't even try to be open to actionable advice.
Fine, believe whatever the fuck you want.
It's cope and happy trannies don't exist. Happy now?
You people are your own worst enemies, baka

>>42274921
You will make some eventually. It took awhile for me after the chuddiness wore off and I wasn't angrily keeping people at arms length anymore.
>>42274945
I don't know if I deserve self-love. But thanks anon.

>>42275000
Yeah it's a cope. They will keep trying to make a narcissist out of you but there is no real reason why self-love is inherently better than self-hate or better yet, self-apathy.

>>42275253
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>>42275029
Idk y you are being so mean. im sorry. all my life i have hated myself, all my trans friends hate themselves, being trans is nothing but a cesspool of negativity. and then, some random poster on this board says "Learning to love yourself is a process!" like some faggot ass redditor. So excuse me for asking a genuine question. Because, where is this trans happiness??? Where are the happy trans people living good lives with love and friends and family and reasons to fucking keep living?? I want to believe so so badly that there is more, there HAS to be something better if I just keep sticking it out. But all I get from the "happy self loving" people like you is the same bitterness and anger that I have. Fuck you.

>>42274696
It really is.

>grew up in southern state with southern values
>went to college at shitty podunk university with "eastern" or "western" in the name
>can't relate to gay men at all and they bully me
>join the Campus Crusaders for Christ because they're nice to me
>go to Bible study etc.
>get told how I need to be forgiving and soft like a lamb or whatever
>NAH fuck that
>start taking muay thai lessons, get /fit/
>still bitter about how the gays treated me (gay bullies are the worst kind of bully)
>become a biblethumpy God Hates Fags type
>meet the boy of my dreams
>date him for like a week
>break up with him because the cognitive dissonance is way too much
>fast forward ~10 years
>troon out
Now I'm actually happy with my current bf and I have plenty of gay and trans friends and they don't know about my cringy ex-chud past, they'd hate me if they did.
And the fucked up thing about it is there's still a part of me that misses being that person... like, I don't know, the anger, the adrenaline, the whole "world is Christ's enemy and I am his soldier" complex that a lot of Christian athletes (and especially Christian fighters) get. I'm not a Christian but you know what they say about how you should be careful who you pretend to be, because we'll start to become whatever we pretend to be... That person is still alive in my head and I wish I could get him the fuck out but I don't know how aaarrgh

I'm just glad /pol/ wasn't a thing back then, oh my gosh I would have ended up so much worse if it was

>>42274696
U deserve it and so do all if the chuds on this board. You were given this life as a test to work through your shame and malice.

>>42274696
Ironically i started off lefty and post transition im a right leaning libertarian

>>42275456
you aped christian eschatology from the chuds

>>42275465
Without freedom and free markets, successful transition is simply not possible.
Under statism I would've been hondosed at best. After staying on a 5+yrs waitlist.
At some point, maybe in a decade, we have to slowly take back the queer spaces and kick the gigacommies and doomers out.
Trooning out and living life in our own terms is a lot more libertarian than the excessive neuroticism and eggshelling promoted currently.

>t. right wing tranny

>>42275568
Nah i still believe every trans person should learn chemistry and how to make the drugs their life depends on. Surgery is a problem still but i bet it'd be fun to diy if we just had the balls

>>42275623
On surgery such attempts did exist. See this - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trans-history-underground-sugical-clinic-b2114777.html
I would definitely support financially an endeavor to have a trans-owned and trans-operated clinic that makes the drugs.
I think it's unrealistic that every trans person learns the chemistry to cook their own drugs.

>>42275443
>fast forward ~10 years
You trooned out in your 30s and made it work?
So happy to hear that <3

>>42275405
Different nona but I totally relate to the person you're responding to. Most miserable posters here simply reject what works and let cynicism always win.

>all my trans friends hate themselves
Change the friend group.
I fucked off from all queer spaces and that did a whole lot of good for my mental health. It didn't improve everything over night. But within a year I had zero friends who hated themselves. Guess what? Soon enough I wasn't hating myself that much either.

>being trans is nothing but a cesspool of negativity
No. Choosing to stay in a cesspool of negativity while being trans leads to this result.

>Where are the happy trans people living good lives with love and friends and family and reasons to fucking keep living?
Not in queer spaces. Because we keep on getting told to fuck off. And have been for over a decade. So we fucked off. Found new friends.
The only cost is that I have nobody to talk to about trans experience. But as I grow older, I need that a lot less anyway.

>>42275758
>"get rid of all your friends that you barely have any one, get new ones like that's just a thing that happens, and happy trans people are totally out there you just never see them ever."
like genuinely i'm not trying to be a cynic but as a person looking for any hope to grasp onto, some motivation or reason to even try, this is just nothing slop

>>42275758
This is true. U have to round out ur life nona. Queer spaces are good for commiseration and coping with trauma but you still have to learn some healthier skills and diversify your social life and build the life you want. It.sucks at first becouse its full of feed back loops so u wont see progress much until they kick in and then suddenly u are happy. Being ur own friend is a good start. Not harassing urself by saying stories about ur life that frame it as doomed.
30. Y.o. tranner

>>42275713
>You trooned out in your 30s and made it work?
Almost. Was 29 when I decided to finally try DIY and it was so worth it. Also the fact that I'm decently passable (I'm at least hot and fun enough to get invited to the good parties) feeds into my survivor's guilt somethin' fierce.

>>42275795
>i'm not trying to be a cynic
>proceeds to offer the most cynical and borderline bad faith interpretation of what I wrote

Nobody is telling you to get rid of all your friends all of a sudden, for fuck's sake.
What I am saying is to look for more in entirely different spaces. It's a thing that happens if you try. It's a thing that doesn't happen if you wallow in misery.

You're not looking for hope or motivation to improve or even try. You're looking for motivation to continue not to try. You're looking for reasons to continue to tear yourself and others down to your miserable level.
I hope you're larp/psyop. But I know there's a strong chance you're not because vampires like you are shockingly common and not just in tranny spaces.
You don't even allow the theoretical possibility that you might be doing something wrong. No, it can't possibly be that. It has to be that everyone else is wrong or lying and you're the smartest tranny that ever existed who has everything figured out.
I should've shut up. You people love to make everyone else feel worse. Typical cluster B.

>>42275828
I'm very happy for you.
Lean into your new group of friends and find love.
You won't be hot forever. Keep investing in your personality because that's what makes or breaks relationships once the novelty fades off.
If I were religious, I'd pray for you.
But please don't fuck it up. You deserve happiness and love.
Hugs

>>42275921
>vesting in your personality because that's what makes or breaks relationships once the novelty fades off.
I know. It took me way too long to figure that out, but I'm glad that I did. I really love my current bf and I'll do whatever I can to make him happy

>>42274696
ive jst accepted im a loser at this point, not a man or a woman, my gender is Loser

>>42275871
idk what i've even said to provoke this insane response. you keep attributing all this narcissistic bullshit onto me that ive literally never said...no, i dont think im a smart tranny, and i know im the problem. i push people away and dont know how, or dont care to know how to fix it. i just sit around, get high, wallow in my misery all day, and sleep. i dont "bring other people down", i dont even interact w/ other people. maybe there are a thousand people who fit the exact description you are describing, BPD energy vampires who suck the life. but idk why you're dumping all this bullshit onto me. all i was saying is that every single other tranny ive ever met is as equally miserable as me, and that idk how to not hate myself. im sorry :p

>>42274901
You define chud as being someone who is miserable, but I am a chud of love. I do not exist in misery. I just joyfully am wholly against progressive gender ideology.

>>42274696
If you still have chud beliefs then you deserve to suffer and I'm happy you went through this, if you don't then I hope things get better for you

>>42274711
DING
Bisexual CHUD males AGAMP themselves or they chase GAMP targets.
It's the same shit but one goes on E.

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I agamped myself because i never got no pussy in my life

>>42277212
That's me. Except I was bi already.
No regrets, though.

>>42277455
ye no regrets, id rather be a weird tranny than an unfuckable chud

>>42277515
Eventually I got fuckable tho.

>>42275443
>be careful who you pretend to be, because we'll start to become whatever we pretend to be
same anon (replying to my own post) but seriously, don't do this. If you ever get the temptation to pretend to be a normie (or chud, because being a normie in a state like Indiana or Kentucky or Ohio or Tennessee usually means being at least chud-adjacent) just to fit in, you GOTTA resist that temptation

because the greatest evil you can possibly commit in this world, is dishonesty
and the worst kind of dishonesty is dishonesty to your self
when you lie to yourself long enough to start believing your own lies.... when you buy into your own bullshit hard enough for it to start becoming the truth, that is a VERY difficult hole to dig yourself out of, trust me

>>42277798
fake it till you make it works, tho

>>42278027
Yeah, it does, so be careful who you decide you want to "make it" as

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>>42274696
You're simply impressionable. One lot of mentally ill people got you, and then another lot.

>>42274696
wokescold - chudtranny pipeline

>>42279675
>chudtranny
The only problem with being chud-ish as a tranny is that there aren't many online places to act it out.
Works quite well IRL tho. Most chuds that are functional are a lot less crazy than the online ones.

i didnt go through it but its really hot that other people did. i need to bully a former chud tgirl

are you trannies interested in dating brown males or are you still chuds

>>42274696
being a tranny is humiliating no matter where you started tbqh

>t. fell for the autistic stem nerd to agp transbian pipeline

i wonder how 10 year old me would react if they knew what they'd become...

>>42280034
>i wonder how 10 year old me would react if they knew what they'd become...
10yo me dreamed of me being happier than was at the time.
I just checked and I am happier.
Granted, it wasn't a humiliating experience because I was already lonely so there was nobody to care or humiliate me to begin with, desu

>fell for the autistic stem nerd to agp transbian pipeline
Are you happier? And if not, why not just detroon?
And if yes, how'd you make it work?

Hugs

>>42280069
eh I say 10 because I only really became dysphoric after puberty
it was intensely humiliating for me at first, my dad was a masculine guy and my mom... wasn't the best role model, I didn't really have any positive role models at the time and 99% of tranny stuff on the internet at the time was literal sissy porn + susansplace, my 13 year old brain was really conflicted about the whole thing and I'm pretty sure it caused my OCD to develop

>are you happier
I think, I trooned out quite early and it was ages ago, I don't really know what life would be like if I wasn't a tranny anymore, but yeah, occasionally I feel happy that I did this
>why not detroon
i've crossed the point of no return tbqh, detransing at this point would be harder than transitioning in the first place.
>and if yes, how'd you make it work
ehhhh it's a long story but essentially it boils down to
>come out to parents
>they stage an "intervention" (public shaming ritual + threats)
>boymode in secret
>get found out
>get kicked out
>live with grandpa until I can go to uni
>boymode all through uni because still too scared to troon out
>snap and start "femboy moding" at first job
>get asked if I'm a troon one day while drunk
>yes and just socially trans a few weeks later
>become completely terrified of the world and just become a WFH hermit for the next 4 years
nowadays my job is basically half client management half actual work so I have to outside a lot or at the very least zoom calls with randos, but most people are nice to me, still don't feel comfortable talking to anyone except chatgpt or 4chan though, even other tranners scare me because I feel like a sissy every time I let myself be feminine around others (this is genuinely a disturbing point of tension in my psyche), it's horrible but whatever I can fix my brainworms one day i hope

>Granted, it wasn't a humiliating experience because I was already lonely...
yeah, iktf to some extent

>>42274696
You’re the spitting definition of the Jews won

>>42280251
Thank you for the story. I really hope you get to kill those brainworms so you can finally find love.

>even other tranners scare me
oh I know THAT all too well.
Which is why I stay tf away from all queer spaces except 4chan. But I did get really good at IRL socialization so most of the time I don't miss the lack of queer spaces.

>I feel like a sissy
the second i stopped caring was the point of no return. As in I ain't detrooning and, you know what, I actually like all of this. The benefits far outweigh the negatives.

Wishing you the best, nona.

>>42280260
Very grateful to Jewish propaganda and Jewish drugs. I would've been dead by 2018 at the latest. Instead, I'm a relatively happy troon who also found love.
You're just the opposite of the BPDemons who are more regulars here. You can't bear with the fact that some find happiness outside of your approval and narrow views.

>>42280260
Kind of hot

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based
feminize chuds
give chuds estrogen injections and laser hair removal
force chuds into dresses and put progesterone up their butts
get chuds big strong bfs for them to cuddle and cry in the arms of
boyremove chuds

>>42280319
you are a nice person nona, ty

>>42280401
I try. As a former incel, nobody was nice to me. Trying to break the cycle. Even if some resentment still lingers on.
Hugs.

>>42280389
Can we just shoot them instead?
If you’re older than 20 and your politics revolve around your desire to make the world worse and kill large swaths of the population you’re an unironic subhuman desu.
Same goes for Marxist Leninists

>>42274837
what?

>>42274696
why would you abandon being a glorious chud to become a tranny race-traitor?

>>42280683
>race-traitor?
My bf is white tho.
I'm literally please the white man. Which is a lot more than what I can say about my former chud incel self.

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born to be a cute natural twink

forced to be a smelly troon

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>>42274696
>former /pol/tard tranny
>fully transitioned and stealth now
>had SRS too
>have a left-leaning bf who creampies my neopussy every night
My existence is actual satire, it's so embarrassing...

>>42282120
>and stealth now
Congrats nona :3

>have a left-leaning bf
Whatever makes you happy.
Leftoids give me the ick.

No need to feel embarrassed though. You like what you like and did what you did to be happy. Now live!
I'm serious! I'm also struggling to stop being resentful for shit. And the better I get at it, the better my life gets too.

>>42282120
does it feel good, being your enemy's bitch?