I did everything I was told to do.I started a bit late (early 20s), I'm a bit tall (5'11), but beyond that, I'm slim and everything.I have been on injection for 3 years. I have had two rounds of FFS.I do skincare.So why don't I malefail? Why do I look so male?Are we lied to?Is there a specific measurement (I assume skull size) that prevents people from passing, ever, regardless?
>>42278025can we see a pic of u
>>42278025voice and face probs
>>42278025probably voiceyou can be a hideous crone witch and still get gendered correctly with a good voice
>>42278025assuming you are a standard 4chan troon you are a giga passoid
>>42278049I'm really ugly and don't really want to facedoxx frankly...>>42278052Well I get gendered male before I open my mouth. Yes it's probably face but that's a very wide category. I've had FFS twice. It's not just face, it's skull size, I believe. My features are just too large and spaced out, it screams male even with everything. >>42278121Again I have literally not malefailed a single time. I'm a hon.
are you ugly in the male or female way? are the women in your family cis hons?
>>42278197Nona :(
>>42278272I think I'm ugly in both ways frankly.My mother looked fairly good, and so did one of my grandmothers, the other was mid I guess.
>>42278282I really wanted it to work for me. But sadly it didn't.It's unfortunate but I guess it was predictable considering I just masculinized a lot at puberty
>>42278121weapon on mass huggboxx inflation spotted
>>42278197Maybe you're too slim? Lack of breasts and hips?
>>42278316Oh well i hope you’re still able to find something worth living for and find happiness in life <3
>>42278352I am BMI 20-21, slim but not insane. I don't really have massive hips, and yeah I basically got no breast growth. But when I wear a heavy coat it shouldn't really matter. People gender me male regardless.And obviously I have no intention of getting BA before I malefail. Imagine having breasts and a male face.
>>42278372I'm considering joining the army maybe. Or something like that. Idk. I've stopped HRT a few weeks ago already.
i know you said you dont want to doxx yourself, but maybe somewhere else you can post your face and voice to get feedback. it's hard to believe there's not some specific, fixable reason for you to still not pass. even mannerisms may be why
>>42278025did you recently post on reddit about getting misgendered at a costco?
>>42278025ffs leads to swelling that doesn’t normally resolve until about a year, maybe that’s it? sometimes we just pull the short straw nona, not saying you did but it’s possible
>>42278025iunno some ppl get ma'amed before anything
>>42278450I asked two of my friends, one said I would pass after FFS and now is saying the nose is the issue and I should get rhino, the other is saying it's skull size.>>42278494No lol.>>42278545My chin does look a bit weird but it's not swelling, there appears to be some loose tissues due to the surgery. Also it's slightly crooked now, fucking incompetent surgeons. >>42278581Yeah trooning is a scam.
>>42278025sameim 5'11, started in my early 20s (with a short, failed attempt at 16), 5 years hrt and post ffsi malefail 50% of the time in baggy clothes.i refuse to girlmode outside of dates with my gf. i essentially present as a weird androgynous chimera that most are afraid to gender. i usually get referred to as "buddy" or "sweetie" from randos in everyday life. ive noticed that I pass more consistently in boymode when im with my gf. i ""pass"" more while presenting fem but i don't voicetrain because its all kinda pointless. i have no intention of a public and social transition outside of my relationship. I don't have any advice to give either. life is bleak. i wish i never repressed as a teenager. sure, im happy with my relationship and i feel academic fulfillment from uni, but holy fuck ppl like us are on society's fringe. i don't see anybody that looks like me outside. i never thought id gaf about this shit but its truly bittersweet. one because muh sense of """community""" is missing and two because its probably for the best others like us don't exist because its cursed to be this way.
>>42278025real. i started at 15, been on hrt for 9 years, had ffs, voice trained, everything. but im 6'2". i can sometimes get gendered correctly but only with like totally clueless old conservative people, mostly just get they/them'd or asked my pronouns or even he/him'd while in the city where i love. what did i do wrong lol or is it literally just that i started 2 years too late to beat puberty
>>42278713iunno, most don't call it that, it's a bad meme from like sa offshoots or w/e if I recall, but it seems to go hand in hand w/ self-sabotaging trends seems likelike it's not even that ppl that get gendered before hrt or anything else are that amazingit's sort of like a vibe thing ig, like I don't know if there are any procedures that fix that, but if it's good then everything else is more forgiving
>>42278025I think ur lying bc I’m also 5’11, zero surgeries, deep manmode, and have a more masculine face than anyone I’ve seen here and I still malefail occasionally
>>42279494Why would I be lying lmao?Nice humblebrag.Some people are just unlucky and actually have masculine features.
>>42278025probably because you don't. im pre FFS boymoding and i malefail like 50/50
>>42280020It’s not humblebragging lol again I’ve never seen a tranny with a more masculine face than me, I’m just saying it’s impossible that you have never malefailed with those stats
>>42280488Luckshits exist yeah.>>42280516You just overestimate your masculinity and are probably bdd.Many such case.
>>42280528literally no one has noticed anything different about me after 3y of e, it’s just that some ppl are dumb and think “long hair = woman” and there’s no way you haven’t come across a few of those people
>>42280551My hair is curly so it just looks moid, I suppose. It's also not terribly long.
