i tried but i'm still a lesbian at the end of the day :(

>>42284917
lol homosexual :>

>>42284913
I took the straight pill and got abused what do

>>42284927
got another one

>>42284913
I want to chop my dick off and men don't like that, also they just wanna fuck me, maybe I'm that insufferable

>>42284913
I'm scared to date men even though I like them a lot :(

>>42284933
>>42284927
use your instincts and find a good man who loves you and cares for you like the girly you are

>>42284913
What do you like about your bf as person that makes him unique

>>42284973
personality and open-ness to talk
autistic traits
Etc
understands me even when i'm being stupid fembrained woman

>>42284913
literally every man ive been out with fucks and then ghosts me or ghosts me before meeting up with me.

>>42285058
What is autistic about him

>>42285085
he can randomly yap about planes and tanks and other drivable stuff for hours like an excited puppy

>>42284945
nona a lot would actually love you regardless. i don't care about gock and if my tranny wants srs i would still love her the same tbhdesu.

lowkey wish i was not autistic and ugly. could've pulled a cute tranny and treat her like a princess.

>>42285291
honestly that's pretty much all talk. dont lie to nona like that, filthy man

>>42285326
idk what kind of men you've dealt with and it's honestly sad if they change their mind over srs. but i genuinely don't have opinions about trannies wanting srs, if she wants one go for it.

>>42284913
I want to date them so bad but I will probably go for it after I reach 6 months on hrt tops, otherwise I would just be a faggot.

Tho desu I think maybe im just a faggot either way, i just hope I make it

>>42284913
sata andagi!

>>42284913
trannies here don't want to hear this, but our dating pool is bigods. It really is that simple.
Not only bigods are very likely to want to date us and be attracted sexually to us, but they also usually have fewer brainworms and can make for better partners.
It's not stupid if it works.

>>42284913
>i feel for the lesbian meme for a bit but MEN they're great
mood, I think I'm much happier now that i realized my faggotry is the other way around and I have a wonderful twink that made me his wife tbdesu

The way you describe yourself and him is why I do not date men anymore. You allow him to confirm to you that you are dumb and that being feminine or fembrained is a sign you can't think straight. You think the solution to your poor management of your emotions or issues with communication is a man directing misogyny at you. It sounds dehumanising and it sounds like you objectify each other a lot. I prefer to date women because (good) women expect you to be the best version of yourself and leave your loser ass if you're not growing. That seems way better than a man who bullies you into tolerating your lack of growth quietly.

>>42284945

Skill issue, i've been whoring myself out on sissy subreddits post op and 99% of men are totally fine with a good lookin srussy as long as I would also let em hit it from the back

>>42286841
demon post.
trannies who listen to trash like this are setting themselves up for a miserable life

>>42286882
Why do you think my post is bad advice? I think its fine to date men. I choose not to anymore but I don't think that is the only way to be. I do think its a sad state of affairs, though, if you date men because you find their misogyny more comfortable than working on yourself and finding partners who value you as a person instead of a woman shaped object.

>>42286898
because it comes from a place of resentment and ideologically-driven assumptions (aka brainworms).
what you view as "misogyny" I view as sweet and affirming behavior.
the whole "objectify each other" talk is brainworms. Functional humans who are attracted to each other do also see each other as sex objects. And that's a GOOD thing, especially if personalities are compatible.
I certainly wouldn't be preparing our 10th year anniversary party now if we didn't see each other as objects of sexual desire as well.
your post is resentful and low-key misandrist. it's the kind of mentality that is not conducive to keeping love and building a stable life. which is fine if that's not your objective but most humans do need and want to settle down eventually

>wifemoder

>>42286872
maybe, thanks for the hopefuel anyway

>>42286955
based wifemoder nona

How did you meet your husband?

>>42286955
NTA but what you view as “affirming” they find offensive. Why does that bother you so much? I’m straight and engaged and even I agree with them. “point out when i'm being overly emotional and stupid” sounds extremely immature and misogynist.

>>42286992
at a metal festival in 2013. Got married in 2016.
funny thing i wasn't even looking for love. We just grew on each other.

>>42287035
>Why does that bother you so much?
because this place is full of young and very young people. And filling their heads with such unnuanced ideas is setting them up for failure
most successful people (including most successful lgbt people) do end up in a stable marriage-like situation. And youngsters don't hear this as often as they should.

>“point out when i'm being overly emotional and stupid” sounds extremely immature and misogynist
It's not misogynistic. I also tell my husband when he's overthinking or too emotional. It's a mutual growth thing. What's the point of a loving relationship if we can't criticize each other gently and in the process uplift each other?
Sure, we can agree that the phrasing is immature but then again, this place skews very young. Of course young people will write/say things in an immature way.

>>42287037
Awwwwww. How old were you at the time?

>>42287084
>It’s not misogynistic. I also tell my husband when he's overthinking or too emotional. It's a mutual growth thing. What's the point of a loving relationship if we can't criticize each other gently and in the process uplift each other?
Dude, you need to actually read OP’s post before responding to criticism of it. That’s not what’s being said at all, and you are too invested in reflexively defending your relationship instead of addressing the context of this thread. It’s coming off as very insecure and rigid. Calling lesbianism a meme, “poor princess” trope, “overly emotional and stupid”. Telling young trans women “it’s not misogynistic if your boyfriend or husband calls you stupid!” because a lesbian said the post reminds her of the toxic men she no longer dates, and you took that as some sort of referendum on your relationship, is extremely weird.

>>42287138
>Dude
you're addressing wifemoder nona like that
you're proving her point about this place and ideological brainworms

>>42286841
>I prefer to date women because (good) women expect you to be the best version of yourself
Best version of yourself according to a dyke
>bitterhon with cats watching downtown abby, white lotus, orange is the new black and other femslop
Best version according to a man
>submissive housewife that is taken care of, get regular headpats and cuddles in return for getting on her knees in a frilly dress and serving her man when he wants
Pick your path fags

>>42287185
Dude is gender neutral

>>42287228
False choices. Chaser psyops all over this thread

>>42287235
no, it's not. you're just a resentful asshole

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>>42287185
fucking what lmao you are all so fucking pathetic holy shit

>>42286955
You do not understand me. When I say objectify each other I do not mean sex at all. I mean how you seem to think he is a tool of your own self realisation or something, you treat him as an object to avoid dealing with your own emotions or whatever. And he seems to think you an object too, considering he thinks you expressing those emotions is you being dumb and fembrained. You both have reduced each other to something. Thats what I meant.

>>42287084
I have been in longer relationships than the one with your BF and only date with long term relationships in mind. I enjoy partners who challenge me to grow. I do not enjoy it when partners express misogyny at me. I find it weird when trans women do enjoy that in the way you describe.
>>42287228
The difference is that the sort of man described in OP thinks the best version of you is one that shuts up. The women I am describing expect good communication and mutual respect lol.
>submissive housewife that is taken care of, get regular headpats and cuddles in return for getting on her knees in a frilly dress and serving her man when he want
As I said you are describing relationships in which you are both dehumanised.

>>42287252
Yea it is. You’d know that if you had female friends
>resentful asshole
You are just looking for something to be offended by because you have zero argument to what’s being said. Likely samefagging too. Many such cases

>>42284913
There is a reason why transbians never date cis women lel

>>42287289
>I mean how you seem to think he is a tool of your own self realisation or something
Fair enough. In that case we agree.
Still, I will insist that OP is young and young people routinely get things wrong. And in the current radicalizing climate even more so.

>>42287252
don't need any white knights tyvm

>wifemoder

>>42287321
Okay? Then we agree, I think OP is getting something wrong. I think the thing they are getting wrong is like she has issues regulating and expressing her emotions and has found a man who tells her the solution is to shut up because she's stupid. You are telling me that me telling her
>that sounds dehumanising
is me giving her bad advice. I think the reason you are doing that is because me saying so is making you insecure about your own relationship. Sorry nona but your insecurities are not going to stop me telling impressionable young women to expect better from their romantic partners.

Everyday I thank god that I am bisexual and can date women lol

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>>42284913
Anecdotally; most men I seem to encounter have been excessively controlling/possessive, making decisions for me like an object rather than a partner.

I also just feel uncomfortable with body hair touching me or how some men at times seem to sweat an excessive amount that it makes my skin that uncomfortable “cold” and “rubber-like” friction.

It sucks because I really love spending time and connecting with nerdy guys and being held and stuff, but there’s just too many incompatibilities for me to properly explore a long term relationship with them.

>>42286955
I DEFINITELY see trannies as sex objects
They're the right body for me

>>42287364
>Everyday I thank god that I am bisexual and can date women lol
Wow how dare you tell that to young trans women. This is literally an attack on my 50 year marriage to my rapist erm I mean husband (rape is not misogyny btw, that’s an ideological brainworm. It’s mutual growth which normal i.e. straight people want and if you disagree you hate men ok?)

>>42287486
I am actually a man hating dyke for believing women are not stupid for having feelings you're right. I forgot that I need a man to tell me when I have ideas above my station. Please sign me up for corrective rape/reeducation, I need a size 8 for my frilly dress

women (trans or cis) who tie their value in a relationship as a sentient kitchen/dishwasher/sex doll and nothing more, sound fundamentally broken and reduce their worth to less than human. Healthy relationships lead to emotional growth not enabling abusive, dehumanizing behavior masquerade as a kink or forgone traditional idealism. Men normalizing partners as just their things, and the women not only rewarding that behavior but disgustingly encourage other women to join said type relationship, are mentally defective.

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so many of you need to deeply reevaluate what you think a basis of a relationship is or should be

just a bunch of infantilized mentally ill morons. maybe try therapy? or, idk how to help this. sort of makes me sad. I'm sure you'll all make it

>>42287596
>>42287879
>t. moralfags

>>42288326
>let’s shame people seeking a healthier life that could lead to more happiness and self worth because i have a kink for being treated like a pet

>>42288374
I think the misogyny stuff ITT is cringe but there's nothing wrong with being into kink or even some tradlarp thing, you absolutely can connect to someone as a fellow human being through them

>>42288418
if they could separate kink or tradlarp from reality, it’ll be fine, but cases like OP or tripfags like kayla prove otherwise