I hate being an ugly tranny so bad. It's insanely fucked up that chasers have HIGHER standards for trannies than normal gynophiles have for cis women, even though we're playing with a bad hand. They don't want frumpy femcel looking girls they just want Hunter Schafer lookalikes even as they themselves look like 5/10 schlubs.
>>42286300/tttt/ is a collective negging endeavor to get beautiful trans goddesses to settle for joe chud
>>42286300yeah well chasers are.. chasers. they want an idolized version of trans women that is just a manifestation of their fetish.
>>42286313I can't even settle for joe chud because joe chud doesn't date trannies like me, I'm too ugly
>>42286343I must be that person then because my chaser and I are madly in love
>>42286300>I hate being an ugly tranny so bad. It's insanely fucked up that chasers have HIGHER standards for trannies than normal gynophiles have for cis womenYou say as you reject every guy who isn't:>Ripped>6ft 4>Rich>Abusive and narcissistic
>>42287025none of those are my standards
>>42286300truth nuke chasers have insanely high standards !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>42286300Browbeating men into dating you is a dead end. Literally just make more effort to pass. Get surgery if you have to. Men are visual creatures and the world isn’t gonna change to placate you. Get hot or get lost.
>>42287702maybe try looking somewhat like a female. lmaoI can't drag an obvious male out into publicI mean. I'll sex most trannies but dating has to have some plausible deniability of my bichud nature (they'll call me gay)
>>42286300that's because chasers are fucking retards.if you want to date men who literally see you as a porn category then you'll have a bad time.find a man who's just ambivalent about trannies.
>>42287702it's so depressing>>42287780not everything is a 'strat' not every post someone makes is them trying to -maxx or whatever, I made this post to complain about my fate not to try to browbeat men into dating me I KNOW men don't want to date me because of my genetics which can't be changed>>42287786men say shit like this then they have a full blown chimpout when a woman dares to imply that they're maybe a little bit psychopathic
>>42287799guys who are ambivalent about trannies don't want to date frumpy twinkhons, they want passers, and those guys end up murdering their gfs half the time as well because they can't cope with dating a tranny
>>42287702>just look like a womanHow is that an insanely high standard? Isn’t that the goal of transitioning?
>>42287812men are more varied than you thinkobviously a lot of them are psychotic lunatics and chuds who want to kill you, but that's a problem literally every woman has to deal withsome men are nice
>>42287836first of all, passing is incredibly difficult if you don't have a good genetic baseline, second of all chasoids don't want an average looking woman, they want some model lookalike who maintains a high level of femininity all the time constantly>>42287860I'm not saying men aren't nice, there's plenty of decent men, I'm more specifically talking about men who are ambivalent about trans women, those guys have all sorts of issues and they take it out on their tranny gfs
>>42287918>they want some model lookalike who maintains a high level of femininity all the time constantlyi mean that's expected of every woman. hollywood and advertising and porn have fucked up the average man's baseline for "hot woman." none of our media has genuinely average looking people in any more.>those guys have all sorts of issues and they take it out on their tranny gfsnowhere near as many as chasers. a man who's ambivalent toward trannies will be the most milquetoast, normie man possible. he'll probably be completely clueless about anything relating to trannies.chasers have some weird incel complex combined with a sense of entitlement that means they treat trannies like utter shit. if you don't fill his exact perfect fantasy role he'll take it out on you. and if anyone finds out he's a chaser he'll do something even worse.
pretty much all men literally put no effort into their appearance or to making themselves attractive and expect their romantic/sexual partners to do so much to make themselves more attractive for them >>42287836kys>>42287786kys
>>42286300checked, and well, obviously.most afabs can birth you a child, so even if not a 10/10, there's value to them
>>42288026> all men literally put no effort into their appearance or to making themselves attractiveI don’t think I’ll trust the opinions of a hon who can’t get a man as to what men are like.
>>42287918>passing is incredibly difficultSkill issue>don't want an average looking woman, they want some model lookalike who maintains a high level of femininity all the time constantlyMen want hot women? Wow, that’s crazy. Is water also wet?
I'm short and balding and kinda low iq which makes me not want to ever have sex or a relationship with either trannys or women bc i dont want someone to settle for me or fuck me bc u might become a provider or smth.Essentially id like to be loved for who i am but thats never going to happen.
>>42288026>I USE SHE/HER AS MY PRONOUNS>THAT MEANS BICHUD MALES OWE ME SEX AND ROMANTIC GIFTS AND KISSIES
>>42288026this is truea lot of men are a solid 5/10 at best but expect a supermodel for a girlfriend.the resentment when they never got that is why so many men have gone batshit crazy recently. and it's why it sucks to date a lot of them.
>>42288138That's because most things that make a man attractive are intrinsically deterministic. Women dont even care about the muscles that much.>Height>Jawline/skullshape>Hair(70% of all men go bald before age 30)>Status/money(mostly hereditary)You can keep yourself in good shape and dress fresh but it wont help if you're lacking the above immutable characteristics.
>>42287966>nowhere near as many as chasers. a man who's ambivalent toward trannies will be the most milquetoast, normie man possible. he'll probably be completely clueless about anything relating to trannies.I think we have different ideas about what ambivalent means in this contextdo you just mean a guy who is open to tranneis but kind of clueless?>>42288026>pretty much all men literally put no effort into their appearance or to making themselves attractive and expect their romantic/sexual partners to do so much to make themselves more attractive for themTRUTH>>42288116>Skill issuelow iq response>>42288138IMO a lot of guys don't even register sub-8 woman as women, they more see us as background scenery, that's how they can genuinely think that your average woman's life is that of a very attractive woman, because that's all they see
>>42288137>THAT MEANS BICHUD MALES OWE ME SEX AND ROMANTIC GIFTS AND KISSIESyes, they do
>>42288298>low IQ responseAlmost everyone can pass, including you. I’m sorry that you fell for the luckshit meme. Genetics can make it harder, but very rarely make it impossible. You prefer fatalism because it validates your laziness and your victim narrative. You have the capacity to change and transform yourself, you just don’t want to. It’s easier to seethe and have an external locus of control. That, more than anything, is why you are NGMI. You are mindbroken and lashing out at the people who tell you the truth.
>>42288350Based strugglechad.Where there is will there is a way.
>>42288350>Almost everyone can pass, including you.This just isn't true, bone structure really limits what you can do, I have a very chunky frame and a very mannish face and that's just life, at least with current techI'm not even lazy, I girlmode, take care of myself, pluck my eyebrows regularly, keep my hair in good order, dress nice, etc, but I don't pass and never will. You can only think in terms of stereotypes (lazy hon vs hardworking passoid, etc) because you've fallen for the just world fallacy and think every problem must be fixable and it's just poor people's fault that they're poor.
>>42288162i mean that decides the top levels of attractiveness. but the average man is a lot less attractive than he could be if he just took care of himself more. like most men have zero fashion sense or grooming, and yet they expect women to fall in love at first sight.
>>42288429Sigh. Its kinda pointless to discuss it with a foid.I'll just say i dont feel entitled to anything. I understand that love and intimacy have to be earned(via the posession of inherent worth more often than not.) and so i dont blame anyone for not loving me, who had been dealt a shitty hand. Had i been born in their place i would behave the same way.
>>42288298>do you just mean a guy who is open to tranneis but kind of clueless?yeah basically. kinda the stereotypical mainstream guy who likes sport and gaming and tourist anime. one who isn't corrupted by the culture war bullshit. what did you mean?>IMO a lot of guys don't even register sub-8 woman as womenoh absolutely. like i said, hollywood only shows you the hottest women. so men think that every person lives the life of zendaya or some shit. and they don't care about any woman they don't want to fuck so their idea of women's lives is skewed.i heard that apparently they like to use sort of frumpy, ugly, middle-aged women as spies. they pose as secretaries and note-takers and tea ladies. then the most competent men in the world will openly discuss important secrets in front of them because they literally do not clock that these women exist.
>>42288468okay i'm sorry if i sounded like i was accusing you of anything.but i feel like a lot of the idea of "this gender finds this thing attractive" is just both genders talking past each other. women probably fall for the same bullshit but i wouldn't know.
>>42288502I recently left my house and irl women mog models and e-thots so hard its unreal. Even older/fat ones.I dont think men have such high standards lookswise. If anything they care more about behaviour like uuuh, i want my gf not to have been a slut in the past or currently.
>>42288502>what did you mean?ambialent to my implies two different feelings, so I guess a guy with an interest in trannies but who is insecure about it>i heard that apparently they like to use sort of frumpy, ugly, middle-aged women as spies. they pose as secretaries and note-takers and tea ladies. then the most competent men in the world will openly discuss important secrets in front of them because they literally do not clock that these women exist.this is hilarious and depressing at the same time
>>42288536>ambialent to my implies two different feelings, so I guess a guy with an interest in trannies but who is insecure about itohhh right okay>this is hilarious and depressing at the same timehonestly i'm ugly enough to be invisible when i want to be and although it sucks, it can be really handy at times. like it's great when being noticed would be bad for you.
>>42286300There are different kinds of chasers.Fetish chasers who know trannies from social media and porn want like a 10/10 Instagram tranny or an anime girl.Incel chasers really don't want to date trannies but because they can't get cis girls they'd take a tranny as practice gf. But she'd better be at least somewhat passing or boymoding so he doesn't need to be embarrassed being seen with her in publicBroken bird chasers don't care about passing or looks, they just want a mentally ill tranny. But they are often equally mentally ill and won't be able to ever be happy. It may look like they're helping you but in the end you'll both are just as miserable as you started if not worse
>>42288614I just have a fetish for being less manly than a woman and trannies work well with that. Not even talking penis-wise. I can top. I just want to be an unassertive shy bitch in our daily life and relationship which to cis women is the equivalent of someone being covered from head to toe in shit and aids.I want my gf to bark orders at me. I can top but you need to initiate and order me to. It's just more prudent to seek people who had male socialization for that reason.Although even trannys dont rly like that since they want their man to be a far manlier unit so they feel like failedmale sissies in comparison.
>>42288614i want a broken bird bf so bad
>>42288665Then most trannies are not really what you are looking for. While they are physically bigger, most trannies want their partners to make them feel small and taken care of.Not just to cope with the physical size but also because transition is hard and something they have to do alone so they often fetishize someone taking control over their lives.You're probably better off with that fetish in looking for cis women. There are a lot of women who love to command men around. If you like stronger girls look for swimmers, basically the physique of a tranny but without the mental illness
>>42289052I've had one trans gf who used to call me names before i cyummed in her ass and it kinda set the bar really high for me ngl.I appreciate the advice. I understand most transgirls dont like that but s very few do and i'm thankful for it.In the end its not like a dealbreaker or a paraphilia. My point is moreso that i treat trannies on par with biowomen when searching for a partner since i'm not planning to have kids.
>>42288917No you don't. I have broken bird syndrome and trust me when I tell you that this makes me completely incapable of having any relationship.Starting with the obvious, I have no impulse control. When I dated a mentally ill tranny I spent like over 10k within a few month on trying to make her happy. Which of course realizing how much I'm hurting myself with this made me miserable.Then there are the intrusive thoughts. Sure making someone miserable happy makes me happy, but in effect this means that I was happy when she had a breakdown because this meant I could help her. Did I really do anything to help her or did I just enjoy whenever she was miserable?And lastly the reason I have broken bird is because I myself have seen the darkness and I want to protect others from it. This means I'm very broken, but I can never talk about it or have someone else to rely on. Because in my mind it doesn't matter what happens to me and I cannot make myself someone elses problem.I don't know if there is ever a relationship that can work out for me, but if anything it must be with someone whose well off and must be without my broken bird kicking in
>>42289142you just havent found the right one to fix then :)broken bird relationships can work i need to believe that they canim miserable alll the time so if i had a bf that enjoyed when im miserable that would be a win win for both of us i so badly want a man to care about me, to hold me and tell me he loves me and that he can keep me safe from myself and the horrible outside world
