>be me, mtf who is stealth in most aspects of my life>Starting out as an early career therapist >Care a lot about the mental health and well-being of my community> dedicate myself to mostly seeing other trans women>Bc of this I state on my marketing profiles that I'm trans>Have a nice set of clients that I see and pretty happy with the work im doing>Holidays are so over and as a result I get a flood of people wanting therapy>Like 1/3rd have been boomer sissies and when we have a consultation call they use it as a time to tell me all about their fetishes over the phone in a creepy way> Im completely professional/clinical and don't let on that im uncomfy>Not opposed to seeing this population for actual therapy bc I think everyone deserves it but they never actually follow up to get therapy >Getting calls from men basically telling me they're masturbating to my profileWhy do they have to ruin everything? It's seriously making me reconsider disclosing in my profile but there's almost no trans women who are therapists and I want trans girls to be able to find me. Also ask a tttt therapist anything I guess
>>42287319total sissy death
>>42287319Do you actually believe in ago/HSTs? What's the grossest thing you've heard from a sissy? Do any ever follow up and become normal trannies?
>>42287319have you had any boomer sissy clients that did regularly visit you for sessions? if so, what were they like during actual conversations?
>>42287319>Also ask a tttt therapist anything I guessAre you a retarded therapist or like one of the real ones who understands that suicide is a viable alternative to this hellish existence for some trannies
>stealth turbo passer here
>>42287458>cherry picks example
>>42287319What can you do as a trans therapist? You cannot tell anything new to normal, well-functioning trannies and the hopeless, low-functioning ones will fuck up their lives regardless of what you tell them. Seems pointless. Serious question.
>>42287477>cherry picks example
>>42287319Larp but anyway you should develop broken bird syndrome and take care of me as a dumb tranny
>>42287458>>42287477>>42287543You are both faggots that cherry pick but mostly the seething chud honposter
>>42287319id love to have a tttt therapist lol. that's so cool. i think as a tttt girl though maybe i'd have a hard time with you as my therapist because if i knew i was like you id constantly be asking you if you thought i was clocky or how well my voice passes or if xyz is malebrained or such and such and just. it would be really funny but i think i would exhaust you
>>42287564>You are both faggots that cherry pick but mostly the seething chud honposter
>>42287600Did you feel pretty in those?
>>42287622>Did you feel pretty in those?
>>42287600Lmao the Colonel Williams pics fuckin broke me.
>>42287564just highlighting their hypocrisy
>>42287633I'm very proud of you anon
>>42287649They don't care anon he does this everyday
>>42287673Oh i’m aware of that, these posts aren’t for them but for lurkers that get desensitized and subtly fall for the “trannies never pass” meme.
>>42287693That guy is wearing fake rubber boobs sir.
I need a therapist to hypontize and sissify me Fr fr no cap
>this lesbian has a penis deal with it chud
>>42287773sounds like cope chud
>>42287872How can you not know what filters are? You're posting pictures that are so filtered to death that I have no idea what these people actually look like.
>>42287889them along with almost every modern woman anon, this isnt some own
>>42287431>go to person whose job it is to make life manageable>ueeeeeh why dont you affirm my supposition that life isnt manageablenot very bright, are we
>>42287773the hand on the right... brutal..
>>42288203>every modern womanlol
>>42288646>t. never been on social media
>>42287319Had this convo with my therapist a while ago, am I trans or just ego distracted my self from my father so much that I do not want to be a man what do u think therapist anon
This is why I will never talk to a therapist, you're supposed to be able to say whatever's on your mind so you can figure out why your brain is broken but they just collect it and laugh about you behind your back and complain that you're a freak and a psychoTherapy is basically expensive astrology anyway, I don't know why normies talk it up like it's such a good thing
>>42287633But you can tell its someone new to transitioning or no? Heres to very simple signs, giving them the benefit of a doubt, they only started transitioning:> no bra> untuckedNot even judging the male beer belly, and being fat.
Those are chasers hon, sissies hit different.
>>42288734are you esl or are you retarded?
>>42287319>therapist>4chan>calling patients sissiesPsychology for love, right?
>>42287693these are rare too though, and im a wasian into men so trooning is my birthright even if god decided i needed to have terminator body
>>42289356>42289356the latter
>>42288827>no brawhy is this so commonit's pretty commonly known that women wear bras and the lady in the picture seems to have plenty of women's clothes
>>42287578she's just a personal friend but i know another tttt therapist...maybe there's a lot of them
>>42287633mogs me
>>42287361No, I don't believe in it. I think there are people who have a fetish and don't transition and that may be "ago" but I think Blanchard is retarded. Didn't he like show a picture of himself shirtless to girls and if they didn't find him attractive they were agp?>>42287422No, they never actually visit me for sessions. I've seen younger girls who have talked a bit fetishy with me but it's just something I let roll off of me>>42287458Believe what you want, hon>>42287531Trannies have problems other than being trannies. I also tend to help the new girls with brain worms and do case management to help them get their surgeries. We often look at the intersection of self-image, dysphoria, and depression. >>42287561Not larp, I'm licensed
>>42288734Therapy is just religion for retards huh
>>42287578I care about my clients but I'm also getting paid/am more objective than I would be with a frien so it doesn't exhaust me as much. I'd never tell you if you were "clocky" wed just examine why you're concerned with it and how to cope with discrimination if you are experiencing it. >>42287785I had a very mentally ill transmasc guy masturbate to me once on a telehealth call while I was an intern, so I won't be sissifying you Ayden>>42288734If you're that worried about it and intellectualizing it to this degree I'd probably say you're trans but no therapist will ever tell you this, at least they shouldn't. I agree, work on attachment>>42288803If these were my clients it would be different. These are people who are using their access to me/my profession to get off. I have sympathy for people who are sissies and think it comes from a place of repression>>42289375They're not my clients. If they actually wanted to work on stuff they would be. They're just getting phone sex from me at this point. I care for my clients and have seen many for free
>>42289927>I had a very mentally ill transmasc guy masturbate to me once on a telehealth callwhy does this make so much sense>I have sympathy for people who are sissies and think it comes from a place of repressioni agree
>>42287319how tall are you
Hi, I'm sorry if this comes off as overly inquisition, I'm very curious about your work and I have some questions.Do you hide your power level at work?How do you coach people on brainworms?How do you use 4chan without becoming brainwormes yourself?Do you have any edgy psychology opinions or theories?Have you worked with PDs before, or what's your area of specialty?Do you have a practice speciality like mindfulness or psychoanalysis?I'm mtf and thinking about becoming a certified hypnotherapist after trying hypnosis out and realizing I was decent at it and convinced my friend to quit smoking. I know it's a meme but I feel like it can be a decent source of income when I'm poor. I have a special interest in psychology but I know my understanding is really spotty and based on autistic special interest rather than med school. This doesn't stop me from being rude towards psychs sometimes, however.
>>42289905>Trannies have problems other than being trannies. I also tend to help the new girls with brain worms and do case management to help them get their surgeries. We often look at the intersection of self-image, dysphoria, and depression.Surely you realize you solely function as a gatekeeper? Everybody lies to you, nobody listens to you, you are simply a means to an end for desired HRT and surgery. Why would anybody tell you they are depressed? It will only delay treatment. You are just playing a silly game that nobody really wants to play. You are deluding yourself into feeling important, but in reality you are not. Nobody cares about stupid gatekeepers. And do you not have any afab patients?> I have sympathy for people who are sissies and think it comes from a place of repressionPersonally I think it is strongly related to humiliation kink (extremely common) and boomer sexism/misogyny. No idea how sissy experience can be seen as "dysphoria".
>>422902075'8", my cisgender sister is taller than me>>42290312>Do you hide your power level at work? No, if someone ever asked me if I was on tttt I'd tell them I used to be, which is true bc I only come back here to post stuff like this rarely.>How do you coach people on brainworms? Usually helping people realize that they don't see themselves how others do, and also just examining the roots of these feelings. It's complicated and different with every girl even though the content of the brain worms are often similar>How do you use 4chan without becoming brainwormes yourself? I used to be brainwormed when I first started using it, but passing, living real life, and having good therapy myself helped. I sometimes fall back into it when I'm particularly depressed>Do you have any edgy psychology opinions or theories? Nothing edgy, but I really love existential psychotherapy. I think the fear of death is very power and behind a lot of conditions and there's not a whole lot of research surrounding it. >Have you worked with PDs before, or what's your area of specialty? Im a clinical social worker, but I consider myself a relational therapist. I refer people to psychiatrists who I know are trans friendly sometimes.>Do you have a practice speciality like mindfulness or psychoanalysis? I do a bit of mindfulness and somatic experiencing with my clients who experience a lot of overwhelm. My specialty is being a "relational therapist" meaning I think the therapeutic relationship is the primary healing factor in therapy, on top of that I do basic CBT but I think modalities can kind of be bullshit. There's no progress without a good therapeutic relationship
>>42290393You sound like Schizoid personality disorder. I agree historically therapists are gatekeepers, which is why I got into the field as a trans woman. write letters for free for people who I only have one session with, which is perfectly legal. If someone wants surgery and also wants to see me, the first thing I do is make sure they have the letter and then they can choose to keep seeing me if they want to. I'd write a letter for anyone, save for those who have an actual circumstance/condition where they wouldn't be able to safely recover from surgery. If that did happen I would feel horrible and work with them to do case management where that wouldnt be the case and I could ethically write the letterI do have afab clients as well. Trans men, cis women, enby people.
>>42290444>5'8", my cisgender sister is taller than mewell how fucking tall is she then? also how tall are your parents? also did u shrink oh hrt? also how old were u when u got hrt. please answer all of my questions i genuinely want to know
>>42290500Shes 5'9. Both my parents and most of my family is between 5'7-5'9. Idk if I shrank or not
>>42290525do you still remember ur measurments?
>>42290500I was 21 when I got HRT. I'm stealth enough that my bfs parents don't know. I won't say I'm like "unlockable" bc idk what that means but y'all here are like 1 year HRT and like "I don't pass yet which means nobody passes" it's not true
>>42287319>Trans the rapistSolid rap name DESU
>>42290444Nice trips.Dang are you saying that you stopped being brainwormes when you stopped going on 4chan? I feel more comfortable in this community than anywhere else but I know the social background radiation is not good for me. I wish there was a way to browse without getting screen damaged from it.>It's complicated and different with every girl even though the brain worms are often similarmakes a lot of senseThank you for sharing your responses!
>>42287319I feel like I tend to blame more of my total unhappiness in life on being trans than is actually reasonable. like using it as a scapegoat to avoid addressing other stuff making me unhappy, but im not sure. do you have any advice on how to parse out what sadness/suicidality is actually from dysphoria vs other life stuff?
>>42288252No I mean like in private, do you acknowledge suicide can be a rational act someone can commit to or do you like view it as an absolute hard line? I'm not saying what would you tell your clients obv you're not gonna like go "oh hey boomer sissy yeah you should kys instead lol"You said I could asking anything so I did
>>42291391Op here, this wasn’t me responding to you. I’m kinda drunk now so sorry if this isn’t super coherent:To answer your question, I think it’s a complicated answer. I support medically assisted suicide for cases where people are extremely sick and going to suffer indignity in dying, but at the risk of sounding cliche I also think that death is a permanent solution to a potentially temporary problem. It gets into more philosophical territory rather than psychological. My job as a therapist is to keep you here as long as I can to help you in the ways that I can. If any one of my clients died I would be very distraught and shaken. I’m assuming that you’re suicidal rn anon and I was too at one point in my life. I still struggle with it every once in a while. I think that it might be worth it for you to find someone you can share these feelings with IRL. Most therapists aren’t going to grippy sock you if you just talk about being suicidal. I think you owe it to yourself to try something new and explore new ways of caring for yourself. That could be making new friends, having new experiences, getting on a medication that helps you, ect. Death is always there regardless of what we do
What do you say to brainwormed passoids, and how does it differ from what you say to self-aware hons?
>>42290857This is so real, I can definitely relate. I think that it can be easy to make your transness the root of everyproblem in your life, and while I think it can be the root of some things it does obfuscate other problems you could be having. I think, however, that you have to come to terms with your transness and be ok with yourself in that way before you can move on to the other aspects of your life. Your transness is a fundamental part of yourself that you could be denying, fighting, or ashamed of in some way. Once you fully accept that it’s ok to be a trans woman (I assume), that’s when you’ll be able to work on the other aspects of yourself.
>>42289927I think you need to stand up for yourself. If they're being annoying or trying to get a pornographic call, you can very well say no without disrupting your original clientele. I don't doubt that you respect and want the best for your patients, but perhaps there's a better way to deal with harassment
>>42292396I’ve not really had these conversations before. I’ve had clients who were deep stealth and never get clocked but still hated themselves for being trans. Usually I just help them accept that being a trans woman is a fundamentally ok thing to be. What I’ve learned is that brainworms persist regardless of how well most girls pass. Regardless of if you pass or not, we’re all still trans and if we don’t see that as an ok thing to be we will never be happy.
>>42292284Actually sweet response though pretty along the lines of what I expectedI appreciate the thoughtfulness though, honestly
>>42292475have u ever had to deal with someone who thought they could or did pass but absolutely didnt? a delulu hon? also what would u say the ratio is to hons/passoids in ur customers
>>42292553>customersim reading this thread and i actually gagged when i read this. americans really have removed all dignity from the healthcare field>>42287319have you ever had a client who used the board?have you ever had a client who you couldn’t help? my last therapist was also a clinical social worker who considered themselves a relational therapist, but they specialised in psychoanalysis. after 3 sessions which mostly involved me crying a lot while answering questions and them trying to get me to speak without asking questions, and a lot of silences which seemed to make them more uncomfortable than me, they told me they didn’t think they could help megenerally how functional are your clients?
>>42292741>im reading this thread and i actually gagged when i read this. americans really have removed all dignity from the healthcare fieldIM SORRY. i couldnt think of a word so i just said customer. patients? yeah patients is the word. sorry.
>>42287319I’m sorry to hear that op that’s really depressing honestly. No one deserves to be treated like this for trying to help their community.
>>42292475How would you help someone not hate himself for being trans? What does that look like in more detail?t. stealth pooner who never learnt how to not throw up when saying the word trans
You should definitely keep helping trans people by putting it out there, if I was looking for a therapist I think seeing they are trans would make me want to try them. Hopefully getting harassed is just a temporary thing or you can just block people who are wasting your time?
>>42287319How long did it take you to become stealth? And have you had any surgeries or anything?
>>42287319psyd here. Welcome to the suck. Reminder, you MUST shut down sexually inappropriate behavior, particularly towards you or anyone on staff. You can expect to be accused of sexual misconduct, regardless of what you do, particularly in sue happy America. This is not exclusive to your trans status or gender.You also should expect and prepare for full on stalker behavior, possibly from clients, from chasers, from the random men. This is also not exclusive to you trans status or gender.> Im completely professional/clinical and don't let on that im uncomfyKeeping clinical is good. But also remember need advice/modeling/warning of consequences for inappropriate behavior in public. Good luck. You'll need it. >>42287361> What's the grossest thing you've heard from a sissy?Covered by confidentiality. Go ask them directly if you care. Some people will absolutely tell you more than you ever want.> Do any ever follow up and become normal trannies?Some people are exploring their new boundaries, and under a bunch of changing hormones. Some people end up in jail. Statistically speaking of course.>>42287431I am legally required to behave retarded. > suicide is a viableLook up the root of "viable". >>42288734It would be completely irresponsible to do any diagnosis, or make any claims about your trans status. And framing that as an "or" question makes no sense to me in the first place. Is your "transness" really linked to your father? If he were gone, or 500 miles away,, would it matter? That's rhetorical. I won't follow up on it. I do concur with your therapist and anon that examining attachment is a good idea.
>>42292553Never seen this in therapy. Usually it’s the complete opposite. Brainwormed passoids and borderline passoids or early-hrt girls who don’t think they’re ever going to make it bc they’re 6 months on HRT and boymoding. IRL I’ve met girls who think they pass more than they do but I don’t tend to talk about it bc it makes me worry I come off bad talking about being stealth in some aspects of life
>>42292741I call them participants or clients depending on how woke I’m feeling. I’ve had clients who told me they went on this board “a few times” when I directly asked them bc of the brainworm terminology they use. The brainworms from here though have escaped to Reddit and discord though so it’s hard to tell. Only clients I have a hard time helping are super avoidant, repressive types who don’t have a lot to talk about in therapy. I feel compelled to fill the space bc silence is hard for me, but it’s been something I’ve been working on in my own supervision
>>42290312Differentanon than OP.>Do you hide your power level at work?I am legally required to.>How do you coach people on brainworms?Brainworms isn't really specific enough, but it's usually some maladaptive thinking, plus obsession.First line is usually cognitive behavioral therapy. Sometimes treatments for OCD. In severe cases,, medication. There's multiple approaches though.>How do you use 4chan without becoming brainwormes yourself?Never been a problem.>Do you have any edgy psychology opinions or theories?What is edgy anymore with modern reality TV? >Do you have a practice speciality like mindfulness or psychoanalysis?I'm not a frontline clinician. I have the ability to write RX, so I'm overloaded with work. >I'm mtf and thinking about becoming a certified hypnotherapist Understand exactly what the certification you're thinking about means, which varies state by state. There is no equivalent of the American Medical Association or the Bar. In order to have your treatment covered by insurance, you generally need an advanced psy degree, and whatever your state requires for counseling.See APA division 30 for the current state of the art. Go look at what job listings exist and what they require.>>42290393Is this copypasta? Maybe it should be.>>42292396Too vague for a good answer, but the difference between the two groups is the reaction of others. Eliminate that, and what's left?>>42292553The idea of "passing" as a binary really isn't a good idea.>>42292741>americans really have removed all dignity from the healthcare fieldIf you only knew how bad it is. And it's not just america now.>>42292741>have you ever had a client who you couldn’t help?That happens constantly. There's a huge range of techinques, specialties, and personalities. Finding someone who fits your needs is very important, and has nothing to do with you as a person. You absolutely should switch.
>>42293304It really is affirmations and just exposing yourself to talking about it in a safe environment like therapy. Reading about it can be helpful too. It’s really hard to feel good about it during this time of political hyper visibility but that doesn’t change the fundamental reality that it’s just a variation in being human>>42293375Thanks anon this is encouraging >>42293566Kinda feel pressure to engage with these people/this behavior too bc I’m working for a practice and need to keep a certain caseload. It does suck though. I see trans teenagers too and I’m constantly worried someone is gonna make some Facebook post about me and get me on Fox News bc some teenager asks me a normal puberty question of how hormones will impact their body.
>>42293463Probably 2 years HRT + FFS before I consistently passed. 3 years hrt now and “stealth” in certain domains of my life. Like I said it’s in my bio on therapy websites so anyone who searches my name would know.
>>42287319Im recently coming to the realization im almost certainly schizotypal. It’s gotten to the point where people in my life have even asked me if I am lmao. And when I look at the symptoms they seem like they match what I experience pretty closely. Some symptoms are even the exact issues I’ve gone to therapy for in the past with little success. So if I were schizotypal and received treatment what does that entail? Would a successful treatment allow me more motivation in work and help my social skills? And what should I look for in a therapist if I want to explore this?thank you in advance if you had the time to respond.
What's the most common comorbity you see in trans patients - maybe aside from depression?What kind of reasons / patients do you not immediately write letters for (and how do you know in a short time)?Was there a therapeutically valuable talk about fetishes with a patient as well? (I feel like I need this given how my kinks eat at my self-worth)
>>42293807First of all I think it’s great that you’re considering therapy. People with that diagnosis usually do not trust doctors/therapists enough to ever seek help. I don’t have a super lot of experience with this as an early therapist, maybe the PsyD here could also respond. I think that your treatment would be probably be a lot of CBT, exploration of relationship patterns, social skills roleplay, ect. I think for that particular Diagnosis given the mistrust element I would look for therapists who are again relational and those who you feel like you can trust with your emotions, rather than who seems the most qualified. You feeing safe in sessions will keep you coming back, which is hard with that particular diagnosis>>42293841In terms of overall personality, and it’s not necessarily a diagnosis, but avoidance is a major one. It goes along with depression though. Also, I’ve seen a lot of cases of clients claiming DID and BPD.I dont write letters for those who are like homeless or imminently housing insecure. I work with them to find housing first. Also those with unmedicated schizophrenia + heavy substance use issues is another combo. I’ve only ever had to refuse one person a letter and it wasn’t really my decision but the decision of my supervisor at the time. I absolutely will talk about kinks with my clients and how they serve them as coping strategies. My post was more about people taking advantage/sexually harassing me through these consultation calls. I would absolutely never shame a client for any kink, unless it was directly harming someone else or involved the endangerment of a vulnerable individual
>>42293805When did you start HRT?
>>42287319Do you have any recommendations for someone early in transition who fits the avoidant personality type, and doesn't have much to talk about? And / or who also doesn't respect her own emotions and needs because their whole self worth is dependant on performance / achivement, and is generally unable to relate to most people emotionally?>t. 3 months HRT mtf who during early teenage years learned to "punch back" verbally, is now emotionally shut in, always keen on appearing invulnerable, and feels like she has lost her soul
