if I am perfectly androgynous?I don't look trans, I just look very neotenous despite being 30 now (been told I'd make a great shota years ago) and my face is very weakly gendered neither male nor female.I feel like no one ever looks like me in the world and I am completely unique. There is definitely no trans woman that does lol.
>>42299945If you are brave enough to show me pics I'll redpill you, but perfect androgyny is more something like 2hollis, if you are ever mistaken for a woman, You are honestly way past that zone lone you are like in androgynous-feminine, or just flat out feminine range lmao.
>>42300169>2hollisTo me that's someone leaning amab I mostly get seen as a woman if think but I don't get gendered often irl because ppl don't gender in Scandi muchMight be androfem but idk I feel like I barely look like any woman I see outside lol Won't send pics, used to do it and it was a bad idea to have my pics hang around on the internet. The board used to say I was very androgynous or that I passed or that they wanted to make me a shota lel.I think I'll be way more feminine once I actually get signs of aging on my face? Does that make sense lol
>>42300261this is androgynous-feminine. Women who look like men.
>>42300316I don't look like a man at all though. I look like a 12yo boy lmao.
>>42300331that's just neoteny, usually associated with femininity, but enough of a blank slate that with styling you definitely pushed yourself into looking like woman. It the ideal state for a tranner, tranners want to be as boyish looking as possible pretroon to even have a chance.
Would pretty much imply a lack of masculine dimorphism.
>>42300375Pretroon I had let myself go and was fat and buried my features under that and hair, which has been gone now for yearsBut yeah styling obviously makes me look way more womanly but if I don't wear makeup I look incredibly androgynous
>>42300395I mean ig what I don't get is I see trans women all the time on here who are way more clocky but also like look like women? Like they're less androgynous despite looking visibly trans yknow
>>42300420break it down facial feature by facial feature(eyes, lips, nose), and then by bone structure (skull/jaw). Obviously beauty standards are going to influence these. Facial compactness is neotenous, and also generally seen as feminine. (distance between nose, mouth, and eyes). full lips = feminine, big eyes = feminine, almond eyes = appeal to female beauty standards, small nose = feminine, soft instead of angular jaws/chins = feminine, smaller for each feature except eyes, and lips = feminine.
>>42300454>break it down facial feature by facial feature(eyes, lips, nose), and then by bone structure (skull/jaw). Obviously beauty standards are going to influence these. Facial compactness is neotenous, and also generally seen as feminine. (distance between nose, mouth, and eyes). full lips = feminine, big eyes = feminine, almond eyes = appeal to female beauty standards, small nose = feminine, soft instead of angular jaws/chins = feminine, smaller for each feature except eyes, and lips = feminine.>eyes: very big and almond, a bit downturned >lips: average sized, no filler, had lip lift so philtrum is pretty short>nose: straight and relatively short >skull: i have a big head but it's more long than large so it doesn't show much>jaw: not very defined but v-shaped?>cheeks: relatively hollow, not plump>cheekbones: very prominent>browbone: slight hump due to ethnicity ig, not completely flat but not big (was pre-ffs but it was a pretty light ffs ngl)>chin: thin and the slightest bit receding? Like it's not forward but it's not like weirdly back either lol
