How are there trannies who work decent office jobs and make six figures and have 401ks and a nice house and a nice car and have surgeries on a whim without ever having to consider doing sex work and stuff? Meanwhile me who dropped out of HS and did service jobs until mom pulled some strings to get me into a school that helped me get a nail tech license for cheap just to end up making less in tips than a cis woman for the same amount of work and skill. I can barely afford to live on my own and my car is literally about to die any moment now and I'm really scared you know? I don't even have health insurance and stuff is expensive enough already. I don't have what it takes to do sex work despite literally every single one of my trans friends doing some sort of sex work and encouraging me to do it. I don't want to disvovle into a kid and move back in with mom's again. She's such a busy body and picks on every thing. I don't know guys I just don't
>>42300472I looove how you write your heart out here and not get anyone to talk to you because you aren't talking about taking dick or lesbians or some porn tier stuff
>>42300526Talk with you*I'm retarded yeah. Also bump and talking to myself half drunk on my rare day off
>>42300472>have surgeries on a whimEasy there.I got into debt for that. Granted, I'm European (incomes are lower even for the upper mmiddle class).
>>42300472BroProgrammer sock AGPs are like a straight-up trans caricature.Their megamale brains are perfect for computer science stuff.And someone in HR can be like, "oh, yeah, we have 'women' working in that department".
They just spent their adolescence and young adulthood oriented in a way to achieve social mobility, and had a little luck other circumstances didn't get in the way, very little of it is particularly tranny related
>>42300472I dropped out of college because I couldn’t afford it. Got some jobs at companies with “progressive” HRs in finance. Sought out a company with insurance that covered all my surgeries including FFS. Lived paycheck to paycheck taking public transport and going to food banks while working 60 hour weeks to make ends meet and afford my deductibles and travel costs for surgeries. It was a solid 3 year grind but I had clear goals. Being on the other side of it is a little surreal sometimes, and makes me resentful of the bitterhons who seethe about luckshits and privelege. Transition is a lot of work, a lot of long hours, sacrifices, appointments, bureaucracy, and being pushed down by other trans people who lack the motivation to better their condition. Sex work can be profitable for sure, but for my own dignity I chose to live very frugally and work extremely hard. I saw so many of my friends further traumatize themselves with sex work, and inevitably drugs, and that kept them stuck and even killed some of them. That motivated me to never seriously consider it and try to offer them help - I housed one friend and charged her no rent even when I was barely able to pay mine, I’ve given friends estrogen and food when they were out, tried to help many find employment outside of sex work. Almost all of them eventually resented me or tried sabotaging me, to where I now know to avoid girls who live that life and don’t offer help because it only breeds resentment.
>>42300592Sex work and drugs are two scary things to me. Drugs would make things too easy imo the only drug even if you can call it that I've ever taken is poppers and even that felt like cheating. I know sex work is not as simple as they make it sound like. I wonder if my besties secretly cry like they do in movies>>42300574I wish I could learn programming but I don't even own a computer
>>42300592>Almost all of them eventually resented me or tried sabotaging meI felt that hard.Ultimately some people are simply their own worst enemy. And will drag others down to their level just because they can.t. >>42300551
Idk I work as a teacher and I leech of my bf’s income
>>42300615Sex work is a trap. Drugs are a cope which I’m not entirely against, but I could never justify spending money on drugs. Now? I do drugs, but I can do them for fun, not to cope with some shitty circumstances. I strongly advise against ever falling for those traps. Try to help your friends if you can and they are willing, but always prioritize yourself and never get dragged down by someone else’s choices. Keep pushing - there is a way to make your goals happen if you are determined enough.
>>42300472That's really sad nonny. I'm sorry your life is so hard right now. If it helps I love you?
I suspect most of them careermaxxed before transition
>>42300661was an incel neet and started at 23. Careermaxxed my ass.Trooning out gave me motivation to work, actually. And working got me out of the home more which did wonders for my overall mental health. Which in turn made me a pleasant person to be around, which helped with finding love.These things are all connected. And every step of the way there's more sabotage from "allies" than from society.
>>42300631I'm determineeedd thoooo. But like every single time before I get paid I have like just a couple of bucks left over like how am I going to get 20-30k at this rate>>42300649I love you too mwah mwah mwaaaah
>>42300721Are you the same person as above?
>>42300472They are called AGPchads
>>42300721>every step of the way there's more sabotage from "allies" than from society.
>>42300768Examples? >>42300721
>>42300751Yes. I am>>42300721>>42300624>>42300551
>>42300472I have a decent office job and make six figures but I'm a perma rentoid with $15k+ medical debt and student loans. Idk how anyone owns a house or car at my age tbhonest (27).
>>42300721To continue, I don't own a house yet (though technically I'm due to inherit one).But if all goes well with bf and we get married, we will afford one. Granted, I insist on paying as much cash as possible.The fact that in 2026 I'm still paying for the debt incurred for ffs bothers me (but I'll be done with it this year).
>>42300724I don’t know your particular situation so what I suggest is just general advice:Apply for all assistance programs, including public housing vouchers (even if the wait list is 1 - 2 years) Utilize resources like food banks, assistance closets (clothes for the poor or queer community). Take literally every gib that exists. Local orgs and even churches offer a lot, and can put you into touch with more resources. I used to eat a lot of meals at soup kitchens.Always be looking for a better job. The market sucks now, but be persistent. Work more hours if possible. Get a 2nd job. Even a side hustle like Uber Eats or Door Dash. Opt for cheaper transport whenever possible.Get into extreme budgeting. Meal prep. Never pay for media subscriptions (Spotify, Netflix, etc). Use free versions and check out Kanopy.For health insurance, always apply for a public plan even if you already are on one. You can be on public healthcare Eve if you have private insurance, and it can cover costs supplementally, and even offers benefits (eg Medicaid in many states pays for travel to medical appointments). Go to providers who use sliding scales based on income (PP or queer specific health clinics, for example). Many of them also offer supplies cheaper than pharmacies.Unless you have a shit ton of deductions, file your own taxes. It’s actually extremely simple and saves you money if you are just using the standard deduction, which you likely are.Other things that I did: had no pets, gave up hobbies and vices like video games and nicotine, rice and multivitamin maxxed for a solid 6 months, borrowed money for a deposit on a cheaper apartment and paid it back with the money I saved having cheaper rent, got a roommate, thrifted a lot (including car tires), switched to a bank with higher yield account. A lot of this you are probably already doing out of necessity and obviously a lot more info and options are out there if you look hard enough. Much of it is region dependent too.
>>42300472It’s called having a bf once you get one all your money becomes spending money
>>42301373That’s just sex work with extra steps
>>42300472Short answer: nepotism.
>>42300472you gotta looksmaxx too to get the good jobs. everyone cares about looks and it will carry you.
>>42300472i dont know i had a horrible time in high school, had no support and just dropped out and became a hikki. i have absolutely no idea how people get jobs at real companies doing real things like computer programming without burning out or being crushed by being trans on top of everything else. i just have to accept they are superior to me
>>42300797how tf do you make 6 figures, im gonna go my whole life and never make thati hate you so much
>>42301697>i hate you so muchAhh. And there’s that resentment and bitterness from the crab bucketeers that’s been mentioned in the thread. Remember girls: most other trans girls hate you. The more you succeed the more they hate you.
>>42301739of course i hate you, you got lucky by being born in a place you can get a 6 figure job somehow. probably only because you look good.
Having high earning malebrained jobs
>>42301744>assumptionsThose are all assumptions. You don’t know anything about anyone. All you know is someone has something you don’t, and it makes you mad. Toxicity like yours is why I avoid all other trans girls. You don’t know that 6 figures where I live is still not a living wage because of cost of living. You don’t know what I did to get where I am, or where I am from, or what I look like. You are simply spiritually rotten.
>>42301803im mad because it seems fucking impossible to get anywhere in this world because im retarded while others get to have everything, how can 100k not be a living wage, thats like 3x the living wage in my country
>>42300472When you're trutrans, transitioning makes your career take off.
You just dont understand how hard it is to get by in america. I have only thousands of dollars left over after all my expenses, savings, and retirement are accounted for.
>>42300472Some people are into things that pay well and manage to luck into doing those things professionally. Me, I'm a poorfag who only makes 30k a year, but I have an easy job where I get to shitpost on 4chan and browse the internet/YouTube during my shift, so it's not all bad. I'm happy and have a warm bed to come home to and food and I can save regularly by being frugal.
>>42300472Among all my trans friends, I only know two who have real office jobs and earn a good living (even though one of them is a developer). The rest live only on the minimal assistance provided in my country or do precarious work that doesn’t allow them to live decently. being trans is either everything or nothing.
>>42301949Its fucked how true that is. Have same qualifications as peers for 300k starting meme, only I had higher grades, but they're cis and get those jobs,while I get to scrape by. Gotta be better than everyone to make it.
>>42300592you're an inspiration, thank you anon
>>42301949yep, i either know people who make nothing and live on disability or people who work for google making 150k a year out of college
>>42301973Being trans really blocks access to certain jobs. It's crazy. It must scare them or something.
>>42302022It's sad because some of my friends have more than enough skills/knowledge to do well-paid jobs, but there are lots of factors that prevent them from doing so...
>>42302032id even settle for pushing carts, but they want lovable slow retards, not math troon autist
>>42302046>more than enough skills/knowledge to do well-paid jobs, but there are lots of factors that prevent them from doing so...mood, if only my circumstances (external and internal) didn't cuck me so hard for so long
>>42302032Part of the reason why I trooned out instead of repping was because nobody wanted to give a short girly-voiced faggot any kind of decent job to begin with, so it's not like I was losing anything by trooning. I was always poor and was never going to get a real career because I didn't perform masculinity correctly even while repping.. continuing to rep would have been fucking POINTLESS.
tfw wasted my 20s being dysphoric instead of careermaxxing and now im fucked for lifeFUCK
>>42300592there was a year I lived that same kind of life and even housed a friend. She manipulated the fuck out of me and made my life so miserable I regressed back to a neet though. I wish I had the same drive and determination you do nona but I’m trying again this year, hopefully I can finally make it.
>>42300592>dropped out of college>gets a job in finance????? HOW THE FUCK
>>42301910>38000 a year 401k>12000 a year 529>3 weeks of vacation>400 a month in clothesthis is an incredibly good life and 350000 is not a spectacular dual income for those cities. This is not “just getting by”
>>42302022I have been both of those people lol
>>42302102I’m kind of in the same situation, except I keep repping anyway, since my career is going to be mediocre and not glorious at all regardless.
>>42301697This unnecessary embrace of envy and spite towards others in marginally better positions in life than you is corrosive to both the community and yourself. As others have stated, you really need to work like hell especially as a minority to not only survive but to keep your head above water.>>42300472Swallow your pride and move back in with your mom. It’s not just a trans thing, it’s a global economical disaster thing. Move back get your GED, don’t squander your time, either select a job you can realistically climb the ladder (generally unlikely these days without education), go in debt and finish college, or look up jobs that require certifications you can tackle. Again, this shit is not easy. You need to stop tolerating being content or believing you’re better off alone with not even a high school diploma. Get your fucking education, get into college or certs, and work your ass off, or you’re gonna keep perpetuating this cycle of suffering for yourself.pic rel. going to be you doing sex work at this rate.
>>42302157as a cis person living in Miami, on 350k in my house i am basically Diogenes. tranny prostitutes living on 15k a year in SF could never understand my suffering.
>>42302280>marginally better positionanon 100k is triple the average wage in my countryyou're right though but i think a lot of people get certs and degrees and they cant get anywhere with that either. and then there are dropouts who make 100k+ a year with no education because they are attractive and social. sometimes you are just being stamped on over and over because you are inferior and thats all you can do
>>42302450Quit spending time being envious of others. Yeah some people are just too damn luckier than others. But if you’re applying for jobs and it’s between you and the other trans girl who has a degree, you’re gonna be hurting even more knowing you get passed over by that qualification.
>>42300472i owe all of it to my parents and still do. let me live rent free. pay for my car so all my income is disposable. only pay insurance and phone myself. spent 4 months grinding out $10k in retail so i could go to mexico for ffs. mom helped me get an office job i stayed at for 7 years so got plenty of experience despite only having my hs diploma. was able to start a side hustle that gave me business credit lines. most of the future work i had done was paid for with credit cards. laser, BA, lips. its literally all fake online. these girls are either doing sex work or have an incredible support system or both. nothing wrong with it either you have to do what you have to do. this shit is expensive and unfair
>>42302637based parents. also you did what i thought we were all doing. until came online and saw all these people talking about ffs with top american surgeons like its the price of a fuckin haircut.
>>42302156>"Progressive"= DEI tranny hire
>>42302797yeah you're retarded being a tranny does nothing but hurt you in the corporate world
>>42302829pretty much. if you get a DEI hire job its because you had connected parents and friends. those jobs do not just go to trannies
>>42302797>thinking trannys qualify for DEI in practice in year 2026Yeah you really don’t understand why trannies get funneled into sex work over every other job. And hint, hint, the mass majority do not do it to somehow strike it rich.
>>42302894what do you mean? sex work is completely safe, the risks of being injured or infected are overblown and your clients are very clean and respectful and will always pay you. its been proven to be so safe for us trans people i think everyone should do it.
>>42300592America is truly land of opportunities or where ever you live. Lucky
>go to shit public school in a poor district>none of my friends have passion for anything>on my way to become a neet after graduation>join a few discord servers for my hobbies>get interested in programming and engineering>apply to a public magnet school, get in>surround myself with cracked people in STEM>get positions in clubs, take difficult classes>go to college in a competitive field>already have a better project portfolio than average freshman>life is goodYou can call it malebrained or whatever, but by simply being in the right environment, you can change your life. You can spend your next 50 years surrounded by neets or working people; its your choice.>"I don't go to school anymore I don't have chances to meet anyone"The internet has billions of people on it and you actively choose to spend your free time rotting on this board. There has never been a better time in history to connect with professionals in any field.
>>42304255those professionals may be online but they only want me sexually, and are not interested in my academic background or getting me into jobs
>>42300472ngl, it's all about passing before ffs, my life was hell after ffs, i got a good job (pays 150k/year) and my life is greatpassing is unironically make-or-break for the rest of your life. shit compounds
>>42304465even in relationships too. have men flooding to me now that i look less clocky. which then gives confidence and wellbeing to actually want to succeed instead of rope.
>>42304465Are you ftm
>>42304762i got ffsi am mtf
UhhHave wealthy parents that pay for my autistic engineering degreeGet a job somewhere
