For the context, I'm a trans male myself. I've never felt like a female, nor socialized as one (mainly bc im neurodivergent and has 0 socialization at all). I wasn't ever influenced by stereotypes (as I wear whatever I want and I have relatively long hair), I rarely feel dysphoric and never had a problem with pronouns (I use any so idc if anyone calls me a she).And so, I see so many trans people online, and it makes me so fucking mad that most of them had stereotypes shoved in their faces since childhood and now they think that "pink is for girls and I don't like it so that means I'm trans."I've seen videos about internalized transphobia, but this isn't that. I don't hate me, I hate others.Any trans out here who've felt that way?
>>42300783https://voca.ro/1dJGB84yyvmw
>>42300783you're not a trans male. just a girl who wants to feel special. go back to being cis and think whatever you want about trans people> t. actual trans male who gets called transphobic because i hate people like you
>>42300864They first say "you know nothing about my experience" and then say I'm not trans just bc I hate stereotypes. Classic.
>>42300783>I see so many trans people onlineBut have you tried talking to one in real life?
>>42301008>I rarely feel dysphoricthat's why you're not trans
>>42301038Does that trigger you or something? I think I clearly stated that I'm not socialized. So idc what people think of me. Gender dysphoria is something you get while being a part of a society as you're worried about being perceived as something you aren't. I don't get that, and guess what? I'm still a male. That's what I'm asking for - an explanation. A reason NOT to hate, yk? And you're just being a dick while im actually trying to get better
>>42301026No? I don't really talk to anyone in real life. I pointed out that I'm neurodivergent for a reason.
>>42301085you're right, i was being a dick and i apologize. i'm arguing that gender dysphoria comes from your physical sex characteristics, and social experiences second. so if you don't experience dysphoria over your physical body then you are not transgender. however, i do not know you and your internal experiences.
>>42301085With all due respect as another "neurodivergent" person (hikkineet audhd-er that's visibly mentally disabled) genuinely you might get better if you talk to other trans people and accept that there are people out there with experiences that aren't similar to your own, even if it's through the internet. (And for the love of god, from places that aren't here)Also, I'm not going to discount that you may be correct about not being dysphoric, but also as another trans man who thought the exact same when I was younger, I was actually dysphoric as hell my entire life and coped with it via heavy dissociation. Dysphoria and suicidal ideation was the perpetual white noise in my life, and only relatively recently had I realized it was there and that it didn't need to be. I think a lot of self-proclaimed non-dysphorics are people who are cognizant enough to recognize that they're trans, but have become too aclimated with their dysphoria to imagine anything different for themselves. (Sorry if that's not well articulated, I'm not the best at doing that)
>>42301134You made me really think think about it and that there's some reasons as for why I don't really feel dysphoric: im "flat", taller than an average afab, my periods arent heavy or painful. And on top of that, I barely go outside (-> change clothes -> see my body) and barely shower (-> see my body). All of this just makes me forget about my body, yk?Also I wanna thank you for making me think about this. I only just realized that this isn't an experience everyone had, and many people have it much worse.
>>42301312I feel like this is really similar to what I'm going through. I've never known a "normal" life, so maybe you're right about the "white noise" part. Thanks for the explanation...
