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Being gay is like playing without any dlc I respect the hell outta that
delta, why are so many faggots crazyhttps://x.com/i/status/2010035067037553126https://x.com/i/status/2010032886251237412
If we nuke the planet, we can all feel warm and fuzzy forever.
>>42304024You honor me sir.
>>42304065Everyone knows death is cold and solitudinized
>>42304046Because I have way too many interests to put it all in one space that can encompass all of it? and then to find like-minded people with the exact same interests? It wouldn't work. Deep bonds are hard to find. I can only think of 2 people I ever had a truly deep bond with in my life so far. I'm not even sure what brought me here as gaming has never been a major interest.
squeak squeeeaaak~ i need COCK >.<
>>42304107You don't know shit.
I sometimes feel bad for not following up quickly on Grindr or not being able to please everyone. I guess you can't be horny and available all the time, especially give my parents are often here on weekends and might ask questions if I'm out too late or for a long time
>>42304150you learn to leave people on read as you age sis. Learning to manage time for yourself vs being available to others is a skill.
>tfw no mushroom foraging boyfriend uwu
>>42304150How would your parents react if you told them "I'm going out on a date with a guy, might not be back til' the morning." Why don't you find out.
>>42304115You're being too unrealistic trying to find your exact clone with your niche interests. You can still spend alot of time with someone with only 1 interest you both sharein. Go deeper instead of wider.
these foolish games are tearing me apart
The brothers were never at war.It is the artificial constructs, the sisters, that are always at war.
>>42304192Dunno. I don't really talk about my sexuality with them. I was kinda outed at 17 and am not entirely comfortable talking about it even though they're tolerant.
I'm just trying to save white people, man
>>42304093I'll take your advice into account, thanks.>>42304197I would get bored so easily with someone I only have one shared interest in. I've also have been with guys who I share no interests with but that was just sex.
>>42304276I can make sex last 8+ hours, but maybe that's just me.
i don’t want to have to try and fuck for 8 hours i got other shit to do
Is it weird to like a guy, his body, his cock, his ass.. but outside of the sexual context you have nothing in common with him? You still have sex and it's good but then you just go your separate ways until the next time you want to bang? It's not even a friend with benefits, as he's not really a friend, he's just a guy you have sex with. What's this called? It's been how all my sexual experiences have been. You have great sexual chemistry together but nothing else.
So many years of abuse, and still nothing to show up for it.
>>42304360Well I'm not interested in normal people's boring lives. Good luck finding your normal boyfriend then.
>>42304374>What's this called?being gay
>>42304374It's called a sex-only relationship sis.
>>42304374Have you never heard of friend with benefits. The friends part hardly applies to most people
>he paints his nailsYeah no thank you
>>42304425We're not having anal sex for 8 hours lol. There's a lot of different ways we can use your holes. I have a schedule planner for what holes we're gonna use, but I improvise alot too.
>>42304389guess im that>>42304409wish there was a better term for it, ill call them my sexbros>>42304422yeah but i thought it didn't apply as we aren't friends
Scraped the corner of my pretty car against a brick wall trying to make a silly turn :(
>>42304453you have things and that makes me mad!
>>42304453did my widdle bottom make a scrapey?
>>42304451sexmates, my booty call, my romper
>>42304449i'll believe you when you record one of these 8 hour sessions and post a link here
>>42304472>>42304468Google took me into an alley and I thought I could make the turn out instead of turning around. I could not :(
>>42304499hopefully its not that pricey to fix
>>42304423Send him to me instead
>>42304007And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.Repent before it's too late
>>42304537my ass is open for repentenace at any time
should I go get some food even though it's nearing midnight>>42304537>receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.the only thing I receive in myself is cum tyvm
>>42304518It's a discontinued color :( maybe I could get a little jar online and paint it myself. Idk how it all works.
>>42304423Is this all you have to show for yourselves?
>>42304590oink oink tubby pig guts
>>42304537"In addition to Paul's geographic location, his religious views are important. First, Paul was a Hellenistic Jew [1] with a Pharisaic background [2] (see Gamaliel), integral to his identity (see Paul the Apostle and Judaism [3]).[1] "Hellenistic Judaism was a form of Judaism in classical antiquity that combined Jewish religious tradition with elements of Hellenistic culture and religion.[2] "The Pharisees (romanized: Pərūšīm, lit.'separated ones') were a Jewish social movement and school of thought in the Levant during the time of Second Temple Judaism. Following the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD, Pharisaic beliefs became the foundational, liturgical, and ritualistic basis for Rabbinic Judaism. Although the group no longer exists, their traditions are of great importance for the manifold Jewish religious movements.[3] "Since the 1970s, scholars have sought to place Paul the Apostle within his historical context in Second Temple Judaism. Paul's relationship to Judaism involves topics including the status of Israel's covenant with God and the role of works as a means to either gain or keep the covenant."The inclusion of Gentiles into the early Christian movement provoked a controversy between Paul and other Apostles over whether the gentiles' faith in Christ exempted them from circumcision. Paul did not deem circumcision necessary for gentiles, because he thought that God included them into the New Covenant through faith in Christ. This brought him into conflict with the Judaizers, a faction of the Jewish Christians who believed Mosaic Law did require circumcision for Gentile converts."No gods, no masters.
>>42304684I'm not fat
WTF DOES KIM WANT???????????
>>42304702lol kitty wants that treat!
>>42304720he needs to tell his story right nao!
>>42304575O pitiful shadow lost in the darkness. O evil spirit born of those drifting between Heaven and Earth. May the thunderous power from the garments of these holy delicate maidens strike down upon you with great vengeance and furious anger. Shattering your loathsome impurity and returning you from whence you came. Repent, you motherfucker!
>>42304717just big boned eh cartman?
>>42304751i wish i could be a cute anime boy
>>42304702cat looks more like an autistic pugwhat are they doing in china to smooch their noses down?
grhhgr\aahh huff huff, huff..
how are my fellow gays doing in early 2026?
>>42304836sober :(
>>42304836I am disrespectful toward everybody and enjoying the hell out of it.
Am I the only older femgay here?
>>42304880no, I'm 32 and still an effeminate gay bottom
I don't say excuse me to people when I pass by them
>>42304849I'm trying to be. Went on a bad bender at the start of the year that I'm finally coming down from. Be strong.
I'm disrespectful because I'm an American
>>42304893anyone who calls themselves a bottom might as well transition
If you aren't American, you are all bottoms
>>42304880No I'm right here sis. What's up sugar?
>>42304893How do you know that person isn't like 50?
>>42304976Does your family explicitly accept that you have a gay sounding voice?
>>42305056My mom called me a fag once when I was 11 years old cause I was talking to her with a faggy voice. So I learned to talk less to her and in a more subdued melancholy tone. I rarely talk to my family despite living with them. But my faggy voice us still alive and well here sis, because I can use it here where nobody can hear it.
>>42305125So um they don't conscientiously acknowledge you have a fagcent? How do I get a new family that positively affirms my fagcent? My family studiously pretends they cannot tell I am gay, which is worse than being bullied for faggotry.
https://voca.ro/16CV0ybZQjjpmore gay retard rambling >>42304905I believe in you desu >>42304932cope, you can be a bottom and still be a man. there's nothing unmanly about being a bottom
>>42305125>nobody can hear itIs that so.
>>42305136They probably know I have a fagcent, but they pretend to look the other way cause it's none of their business. As long as I don't sound too faggy, they'll just pretend I sound normal and straight. I don't think you need their positive affirmation for your fagcent to be happy with yourself. But I can't really help you get your family to accept your fagcent sis. :/ they're coping and denying you're gay and there will be pain I guess.
>>42305197I'm not flirting with you on voocaroo.
america should deport the auraless
I have no idea who this guy is and I didn't bother reading the caption but I saw this picture on /tv/ and I thought that it would be in the general interest if I repost it here, I pre-emptively accept your thanks for my heroic effort in the name of public service, you are welcome
i hate europeans they are leeches that should be ripped off and cast into the flames
I'm rereading the Illiad to figure out why Achilles and Patroclus were gay.
why stop at greenland? they’re not even doing anything on that continent it’s basically idle land
>>42305293Tying your loincloth like that is so cute and fem.
the biggest industry in europe is teaching mohametans that rape bad fucking your siblings bad
*mahometans i forgot throwing grenades into businesses bad
>>42305312manlets dancing for our entertainment
>>42305326I want to find a boyfriend in Greenland.
>>42305373There's probably fewer than 1,000 gay/bi men on that whole island. Restrict farther by a reasonable age range and any other qualities you might want, and the outlook is very bleak
>>42305373me too except not just Greenlandideally someone who loves near me
Americans can't do math anymore. The only gains that the American education system has had in the last 20 years have been the increase of school shootings.
>>42305531Pretty much at the level of one a day.
>>42305531and yet we can’t stop winning while the old world is overrun by saracens and zebra chasing spear chuckeds
I want to lick his belly while he squeezes my butt and teases me for being a stupid little faggy boy
>>42305578glass houses, anon
>>42305547Eventually the NSA will run out of mathematicians because Americans can't do math anymore
>>42305595negroes are having less and less children and mexicans are being sent back across the rio grande
>>42305578American airplanes are falling apart in the sky everyday. Americans can't even build airplanes anymore lmao.
>>42305599that's what computers are for
>>42305620boeing and airbus have almost identical safety stats you hear about boeing because europe is irrelevant
i dont get how his ugly fat brown ass has a boyfriend and i dont
>>42305638but can Europeans still do math?
>>42305661obviously not since their governments are constantly broke rofl
what would you do if your dad told you he wanted to to go back to calling him daddy
it’s simply an undeniable fact that america is the best country on the planet right now and instead of coping you should try getting your shit together and maybe one day you can immigrate here to drive for uber and send money back to your home country so your parents don’t freeze to death
i want a guy to make me cum hands free
daddy needs correction
We can do this, but your hands need to be tied behind your back for this to count.
America has lost it's place as world leader and is about to become no longer a super power.America is only in control because we made deals with other countries which allowed us to build military bases across the world, and we bully every other nation to use American money to buy oil. America has no power without allies.
I let one of my friends hit for new years and he made a picture of me sleeping on his chest his phone wall paper and was showing everyone tonight
>>42305842Based, shouldn’t have given it up so easy
all i want is to get fucked in the ass like a bitch.. is that so much to ask for?
>>42305967Yes
>feels good
>>42306101start dermarolling + minox now. chinstrap's not doing you any favors.
>>42306101Nice sonicchu shirt
morning homos
>>42306101you kinda look like an older version of me
American protests are just bizarre. Its always made of three groups.Stupid (really stupid) self important white people protesting some cause, almost always for brown people.Brown people who mostly think its a street party if they bother to show up at all.Blacks looting and destroying shit with only the vaguest idea of whats being protested if they even bother having a pretense.If you want a laugh, the next time you hear a black ranting about some police shooting headline, let him go on about his outrage for the victim a minute or so and then ask what state it happened in and watch them go blank when they remember they can't into basic geography.Its not about race to any of these groups. They just want free shit and count on idiot whites to pity them.Right now they are confused because they are watching white people riot over a dead white woman and aren't certain if its a race opportunity or not.
>>42306366is your hole hairy?
>>42304051Is that a chink?
ok well don't have a good morning then
I need weed.
>>42305716pay the necromancer double?
I am an abomination that will rightfully be sent to the lake of fire to die for my sins and abominations by Yahweh
>>42304880yesmaybe the only gay man at all
>>42306490wellll i wont!
how does it feel, shiza bartek? seeing yout favorite youtuber anisa jomha and her husband winning lolcow of the year?
>>42305293Watch Joker: Folie à Deux and Heated Rivalry
need hairy hole
>>42306743ew why
>>42306101your face says otherwise you look depressed you dress depressedwhy do you dress like a old lesbian?
>>42306750for fondling and kissing and fucking
>>42306770fuck yourself
>>42306750He thinks it's what gay people want.Hairy asshole.
>>42306776when my penis is hard it doesn't bend that way
>>42305293>25 but looks 40I wish people would stop pretending this guy is hot. He's not. He looks botoxed.
Can AI make better gay porn than women?
So fucking lazy
>>42306794he had buccal fat removal surgery he was cuter as as a teen
>>42304024id call that being straight no?
>>42306809His ass is delicious.
>>42305293i get bryan johnson vibes;_;
>>42306795https://thisvid.com/videos/b3ns0n-b00n3-blowjob-anf-facial-ai-fake/
>>42306803good likeness, shallowb
>>42306790
Its sunny outside today. What should I do>>42306803pretty>>42305293>>42306809he's so hot. Finding out the actor wasn't actually Russian was my personal 9/11
>>42306945I don't know who that is
>>42306978sled drivin(1698–) Originally: †a boy or young man kept by an older man as a (typically passive) sexual partner, a catamite (obsolete). Later: a man who is made use of as a sexual partner by another man, esp. by force or coercion. Now chiefly Prison slang.†to make a punk of: to make (a man) the passive partner in homosexual intercourse (obsolete).>>42306986;>
>>42306978snow :O
>>42306978>What should I dopost underwear
>>42306803Slut!
>>42306999Pretty. Best part about winter are these endless sunsets>>42307004:O>>42307006was thinking more of an outside activity actually
>>42307033post underwear outside
>>42307039cold...
>>42307043test ice thickness on nearest pondhere is hoping
>>42306803i always liked billy's aesthetic https://thegay.com/videos/292983/billy-boy-1970/
>>42307043you have a poor attitude
>Kate Bush and Muhammad AliI thought we were in 2026? Who let grandma into the thread?
>>42307064Wow he's cute
>>42307069nuh im not freezing my dihh off for your amusement. Plus you've already seen my underwear once>>42307076Respect your elders
pemis
>>42307118>Respect your elders
>>42307118i've never seen any pics of you but whatever, don't ask for ideas if you're not interested in getting ideas
I always liked the element of abuse in classic porn, the bottom getting bullied and man-handled. It always makes the dynamic more interesting.
Can I get a WOAAAAH BUDDY in the chat?
>>42307158woe buddie
tops abuse your bottomsthey'll only love you more
>>42307175but i can't love someone who enjoys abuse
a bottom is always consenting at all times tops are never in the wrong
>>42307076Kate Bush AI porn, its doomed to happen, probably already has, im afraid to Google it she always looked like a porn actress in her younger days
>>42306713well they deserved it so pretty goodanyway, just learned that George Foid's wife is in custody of the orphaned six year old even though its not her child, the custody should clearly be given to the child's remaining living relative which is the grandfather Timmy Ray Macklin Senior who has told Telegraph he will collect him meanwhile George Foid's wife is getting beg bucks for taking care of the child, which is not hers
>>42307219not sure how this has anything to do with being gay so I'm just going to point that out to annoy you
>>42307219senpai
>>42307237nta but what's the context of the photo
I will never be Guy Madison but neither will you.
Imagine how many zoomer gays got mentally abused by MAGA losers on Grindr and Snapchat …
>>42307246its a mutlilayered metaphor its a amerimutt kike utopiadeformed mutt landwhale flashbagsescaping, watching and paying professional retarded athletes playing a childrens gameits hilarious absurd ironic sarcasticborderline insane
>>42307266Grindr accounts don't give you a username... that's made up and there would be no way for this person to know if he bought Snapchat creator content, John Ross is a common name regardless. People just make shit up these days which is way worse than any AI content. There's no sense of honesty in most people.
>>42307283your retarded and should get off the internet
>>42307291how fat and dumb are you, mutt? lmao
>>42307283Is it possible for you people to talk without racism and victory involved
>>42307298i'm probably more white than you
>>42307302see, this is why every word i wrote is the truthmuttkike cant deal with my superiourity >>42307304are ye platin blonde nigger? no? kneel and stfu
thorny ye superiour platin one
>>42307255I bet his hole is mad hairy
>>42307322i was gonna argue that redheads are more nordic! cause i am kinda...
>>42307304where is your 'more white' pix, subhuman? im waitingto counter with my red balls
We’re in here >>>/tv/217256602
>>42307356such a low bar for what's an actor these days >troye sivanlol
>>42307356no!>>42307370ts is playing a twink
>>42307266ice =/= maga>>42307233yeah like, i dont really care man my sexuality is less than 5% of my personality
>>42307385mine's like 15% but for some reason i feel it necessary to post here my own inner saboteur is trying to make me gayer
WHERE IS MY STATE MANDATED BOYFRIEND
>>42307391interesting, this thread has mostly made me avert to gayness
averse*im in my esl era
wwyd if your bf had a leather fetish
>>42307427why? you dumb? this thread has nothing to do with homosexuality lmao>>42307418sorry, maam, the snow storm delayed delivery, will be arriving shortly!
chat this gave me a boner? Wtf
>>42307470i see no assports in his leatherpanties? what gives
>>42307488gross
>>42307488is that a pooner?
>>42307370he’s a theatre kid
>>42307473i mean, sure, but everything else gay also doesnt interest me atp so
1400 poo1430 outside snow sun 1530 bath book jerk1700 game film book ???18 19 2h2021 4h2223 6h24>>42307564where were you shizo? we missed u
Jacked off too much yesterday and now I'm tired of jacking off. Didn't think this could happen.
>>42307574ive been itt on mornings regularly i just dont have much to say but feel free to call me by my name at 7-9 am poland time
heated rivalry: thorny vs timur versionbut instead of fucking, they just end up killing each other :3
>>42307593I want to see a heated rivalry between 2 snipers. They keep on looking at eachother through the scopes and not taking the shot. Leaving flowers in the snipers perch for the other to look at with hand written messages. Or "I wuv u" sent in morse code through reflections on mirrrors.is that so much to ask!
>>42307593how could a pooner kill a man? by sucking out all his feces and fluids from his ass?
gooning to bara maleroe in the balmung quicksands....
>>42307628that sounds retarded af, anon. your idea sucks
>>42307646I was joking haha you fell for it
>>42307147I like manhandling masc dudes and subverting tropes
>>42307638he has an arsenal of gun cause he's american. you dont have any cause youze a german lel
>>42307655it was retarded because where's the sex
>>42307628that sounds kino af, anon. your idea fucks
>>42307682They masturbate to eachother through the scope duh
>>42306809Why is this a thing
>>42307673>hedont ever talk to me пyн
OK is Timur actually a pooner? Or is he just a pooner chaser?
Maggots are lying retards.
>>42307741pooner that larps as a guy to talk to gay men
>>42307488I like spit but all this did was startle me in my chair haha
>>42307741some of u tards so dumm i wonder how u solve captcha
lately i've been busting too soon while playing with my dildo. if real dick feels even better idk i might not be able to last long. i'm not even jerking off, it's "hands free"
>>42307876three types of people:stupid peoplepeople full of shitcrazy peoplesometimes they're all three at the same time. like maga!
>>42307944Stop showing off
>>42307954it wasn't this sensitive before. i want to go back to how i was before, when it takes like an hour for me to get a prostate orgasm. now it's like, i could probably bust if a gay dude so much as looks at me funny
>>42307671manhandle these nuts
>>42307944sometimes i don't even need to have their mouth or ass on my cock just looking into a bottom's eyes i cum
>>42307970oh no? the prostate you regularly fuck is getting more sensitive? tell me more
>>42307982>just looking into a bottom's eyes i cumwhat are you, some sort a homosexual or somethin'
>>42307179not really abuse, just rough consensual behavior
>>42307987yes. a bottom
>>42307986i wouldn't say once a week is regularly. i waited well over a week in this case. sometimes i do it for consecutive days, when i'm really horny.
some guys just have these eyes that make it so easy to jizz
>>42308014*stares at your balls*
>>42307741Timur was once on estrogen and was transitioning, they won't admit it though, because they don't like that I know who they are.
>>42307628mgs 3 is so retarded mgs is so retarded how did kojima get mainstream success by thinking he could do moby dick or 2001 paint-by-the-numbers
>>42308012how often do you think the average prostate gets fucked?
>>42308021t. me when men pass me on the road
why is it so hot to vicariously live through some other couples gay romance
>>42308035umm assuming i was living with my bf.. daily poundings would be regular.. i hope.
>>42307418if he looked like this tho
>>42308045that's insane.also where do you live and how old are you
>>42308063i'm american and i'm in my 30s
>>42308071>i'm americanshame
>>42308058many white men look the same way, its not really a racial thing
>>42308077grrr
bring me my pills and booze
bring me my pits and balls
wish samael was here to give me a lap dance and do my sunday chores
Whites hate indians because they are the most similar to them
>>42308085jolly and wholesome like a santa or a barman>>42308058creepy, 20 feet distance minimum
>>42308044u believe its gonna happen to u
>>42308128thats a new one...
>>42308104stop being American
this is muh threadthere are many like itbut this one is mine
>>42308214*vomit*
>>42308223yes! a youjuhuuuuutastes great after eh an hour outside at minus tempsgrrrrreat post holepole
>>42308234*vomits harder*
>>42308244whats wrong with it?!?!are you a sick dog?wanna take a bath togetherness?
>>42308257everything. there's a whole onion on the table>are you a sick dog?ironic
If he's albino, is it a bbc or a bwc?
>>42308273you are gay!there us also garlic and butter and bread and meatballs and hochzeitssuppe!
>>42308128being of that background and seeing the discourse, it’s pretty much due to their need to find a poor bloke’s existence as a reason to feel good about being a failure whitey who gets mogged in the job market
>>42308289>hochzeitssuppe!the sound someone makes after looking at that pic makes them vomit
back in my day there was no of this lgbtqia+ bullshit. we just called ya all gay people. the gay straight alliance.it's like women got all uppity and had to lesbian as a monicur. like stfu. you're a homo. a gay. not special snowflake bullshit.
>>42304537That's just really fucking hot. But I think the order of events are causing a confusion of understanding of what is behind that.But I know. Ha ha ha!
>>42305281It would just empty out the country lol
>>42306763People that are the biggest assholes and most cocky are the most insecure
>>42308302+.01 Izzat
i would genuinely spaz out during gay sex if i'm already emotionally attached to him. can't imagine being taken by a male who i have feelings for. actually, i wouldn't want it any other way
>>42308344post pits
>>42308341>googled some random ethnic word to try this hardderanged and obsessed
>>42308344Being overwhelmed isn't an attractive trait. I'm very ticklish and I'm convinced I've scared off at least two potential soul mates.
How often do you shave your face? I feel like a hobo if I go longer than 2 days
>>42305320Because the wives are fake concepts that allow for additional connections to some mythical characters across the ages, much like Helen is also a concept and not necessarily an actual person.Briseis' actual name is something to do about taming horses, a connection to one of the Dioscuri who consistently is equated to horses, while sometimes they may be named after a word that means "light" to represent their status as stars (actual stars).Achilles is written as grieving him like a wife grieves her husband, has their ashes mixed together, and they go live in an island in the afterlife with a third guy.But Polyxena, some weird cunt that is trying to wedge herself in the way, whose name means many guests, are intruders trying to get in like a Trojan Horse.Not everything is literal, obviously. Just gonna know how to interpret it.
>>42308364nice try. you're bred to be a slave with an inferiority complex.
Too many details getting lost through the cracks, throughout the years
>>42308307vicaroo your pronouns
>>42308375trim once a month. haven't shaved in 5 years
If you don't at least cry a little the first time, is it even real?
yo wtf happened to jonah hill? ozempic got him to transition from comedian to faggot
>>42308344So you're saying that your lack of self control and ability to control your emotions during sex is somehow romantic?
>>42308389??? out of touch with reality I should lowkey just rape you for that
>>42308411i wonder how much plastic surgery he had. ozempic doesn't get rid of loose skin
>>42308411comedian??? more like butt heh of a joke
why are Boer guys so hot
>>42308375 I shave daily. Anything less is uncivilized.
My booty is getting more perky
>>42308433>>42308389
>>42308375i look like an ugly lesbian woman if dailya looot better with scruff so electrical 2 3 a week>>42308352
>>42308419no, my body twitches a lot because of how good it feels to get fucked, i can't stop my legs from shaking and my hips from bucklingi also may become nonverbal due to sensory overload
>>42308411Drastic weight loss commonly triggers genetic conditions in jews
>>42308436>nice try. you're bred to be a slave with an inferiority complex. I am the epitome of refinement. A paragon of elegance in a world dulled by the mundane. Your petty jabs only serve to further illuminate the chasm between our stations.
>>42308471>>42308389
>>42308452Must be so hot to watch you squirm and flail around like a dying fish out of water.
>>42308452>no, my body twitches a lot because of how good it feels to get fucked, i can't stop my legs from shaking and my hips from bucklingdoesn't stop me from topping>i also may become nonverbal due to sensory overloadpractice will cure that
it's not ok to call someone on the internet a slave because you never know if they might be black, in which case it becomes a hatecrime
I'm sad
>>42308451doesnt look like a thirtythreenie pit to me…
bottoms should be seenNOT heard
New masc thread>>42308511
>>42308502im 39