Look I'm a man with a mental illness that makes me want to be a woman. I take estrogen. But I'm not deluded enough to think that women's clothes or makeup are going to make me or anyone else think I'm a woman. Please enlighten me.
>>42312355It's a lack of self-awareness and intelligence
>>42312355because its better than being seen as a cis man
Damn, they look like fun dudes to hang out with and give handjobs to
>>42312388Why is being a social pariah better?
>>42312355The dysphoria tied to being perceived as male + male privilege and camaraderie (as someone who’s seen as a straight cis man when im not wearing makeup despite only liking men) is the obvious factor for me. Also just being fed up, I listened to all the manmoding bullshit for years here and became a hateful bitter wreck. I (at least think I) matured with therapy and let myself transition mentally in the last year or so so an urge to socially transition came naturally. I don’t have anyone supportive in my irl life still and it hasn’t been going great so far with strangers but I’m doing what I can right now and I’m planning on moving to a more tolerant area soon and maybe cutting contact with a few people. Look, not passing fucking sucks but even if I did do you think I want to transition? It’s something I have to do to help my stupid mental illness and help my dysphoria so why not power through it and do the best I can? Also I’m only 22, maybe I’ll pass in future who knows? I get not wanting to honmode personally but if you can’t understand others doing it I think you’ve got some serious mental maturing to do.
>>42312704Good advice nona
>>42312704I just don't understand how presenting yourself in a way where others would only refer to you as a woman out of pity helps in any way
>>42312355And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
>>42312875>I just don't understand how presenting yourself in a way where others would only refer to you as a woman out of pity helps in any wayBecause it’s for me and my perception of myself. If you presented like this you’d know people but especially strangers don’t gender out of pity or politeness, they say what they see. I’ve only been gendered female a tiny handful of times and that’s included a few pretrans friends trying to force themselves to do it as best as they can and giving up after a couple they/thems. I do it to mainly help my own dysphoric self-perception, and you know what nowadays I’d argue I even like how I look. All I need now is someone not yelling "tranny" everytime I walk down a busy street which is why I’m planning to move to a more tolerant area. Is it perfect? No, and you could probs argue I’m building a hugbox around myself or something, but if you’re *that* dysphoric would you rather do everything in your power to help it or sit and let yourself rot as depressed as ever? Idk it’s not like I’m going around introducing myself via pronouns or using women’s loos, and as I’ve said everyone is seeing me as a man in the exact same way you’re describing yourself, but I think we have to really wind the fuck back how we present why we’re transitioning in the first place because so-called "honmoding" has been far too villainised by the public and the last thing I fucking want are trans people acting uptight about it too. We all have the same mental illness and everyone forgets this is the recommended treatment.
>>42312388this anon no debate
