This might also stop docs from hondosing

retarded SRShon take

>if you want to be a woman, you have to get a sex hole carved into your body
>birth canal? no its a hole for sex
>menstruation? uhhh no its a hole. for sex
>women are holes

>>42321130
literally why

>>42321278
>it's fine when cis women do it tho!

>>42321281
To get rid of the jokers and clowns who aren't serious about becoming women

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>.>

But then what will chasers do without gocks? Transbian porn would just be the same as lesbian porn? BORING!

>>42321293
why or how does that prove that? why in that order? you didn't actually answer the question... this is very silly and I think you know that, OP

>>42321318
You can't be a woman if you still have your dick yet some "trans women" keep their dicks for years or even decades. It makes the public think trannies are just men playing dress up and erodes trans rights.

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>>42321335
transcend cis optics, embrace trans liberation. you have nothing to lose but your chains

>>42321374
And my job
I like having a job and disposable income

>>42321335
you're not answering the question
why should they have to get surgery before hrt?

>>42321130
Whats the point of pio anyways you get the same effect with exercise (insulin sensitivity) is it just for lazy tranners or those scared of muscles

>>42321130
Srs isn't immediately necessary for passing and withholding the hormones trans women need unless they commit to such a surgery sounds like the recipe for alot of regret and dissatisfaction. Not that everyone would hate srs but not everyone wants it and that's okay, they shouldn't be forced to get it. Having a dick =/= evil

>>42321263
it can help break the "you're actually just a man" thing if they know but on the other hand i've been told i don't need estrogen at all and that my vagina needs soap (it does not)
>>42321335
agreed women should have vaginas
also practically all (80-90%) trans women will admit they want one... srs rates being as low as they are should be seen as the travesty it is between lack of access and misinfo

>>42321389
imagine if you get horny and want to hook up with a guy...you'll need a vagina or he'll think you're a guy too

>>42321383
To demonstrate commitment to being women, and to improve optics.
Trannies used to rail against the Real Life Test, so this is an alternative for demonstrating commitment.

>>42321406
still not answering the question... boring

also wait
>getting srs but not hrt improves optics
lmao are you a hon

>>42321396
It’s not gonna mean shit to the people that will still argue
>CHRUMOSUMMES
SRS technology isn’t even what majority of trans women want: a fucking working vagina with womb and all. At its current state it’s just sophisticated cosmetic mutilation so that trannies with severe genital dysphoria are able to cope a little easier.

Come back when the tech actually gives us what we fucking want first.

>>42321408
I have answered the question. You just don't like the answer. Probably a male fetishist who likes taking HRT so that you can have your own tiddy.
>>42321415
SRS locks in a requirement for some form of HRT.

>>42321426
oh so you are a gross hon, thanks for ruining my optics you loser

>>42321404
That scenario doesn't really justify making every trans woman get srs before hormones

>>42321130
I think orchi as a requirement would be enough. Maybe reddithons would then be less horny and creepy.

>>42321423
>i'd rather live as a man than an infertile woman
how is this not just repression?

>>42321423
Yet cis women born with vaginal aplasia are satisfied with the results of vaginoplasty with current tech.
Sounds like you're just making excuses and want to keep your dick.

>>42321426
you’re a fetishist fantasizing trannies getting forced srs. Fuck off with your unhinged take.

>>42321431
>I disagree therefore u must be a hon!
Laughable. Keep pretending you're a woman while having a dick.
>>42321444
How strange that so many trannies react like men to the prospect of losing their dicks!

>>42321437
>what is secondary sex characteristics and the effects of HRT
chud in sheep’s clothing
>>42321441
>cis women able to give birth who only have an external defect are satisfied
no fucking shit. You’re ignoring why we’re in disagreement, dumbass.

>>42321441
admittedly they're not lied to as much about outcomes whereas most trans women seem to believe neovaginas do not actually work

>>42321456
>you should be okay with a half-asses surgery that doesn’t even give you an identical genital as your identified gender
schizoid spotted

>>42321462
>I can't get a full female reproductive system, therefore instead of taking what's available now and getting the rest later in a revision if it becomes available... I'll stay a man

>>42321462
>vaginal aplasia
>able to give birth
anon idk how to tell you this but cis women with serious genital birth defects are generally infertile

>>42321471
man spotted

>>42321481
In any case a neovagina is not going to be able to stretch enough to give birth. Any birth would have to happen via C-section.

>>42321491
also all of the uterus transplant recipients had c sections and many had history of vaginoplasty...
medicine isn't magic there's going to be scar tissue and being this magically wombyn doesn't change that

>>42321423
holy autogynephilia, batman!

Cool, make every insurance company cover it and I will 100% be for it

>>42321525
Get better insurance?
Or self-pay?

>>42321477
>please go in debt, risk surgical complications for something that’s not even the real deal, and contend with dilating the rest of your life
You can go get srs and dilate on a cactus for all it’s worth, but keep your shit to yourself.

>>42321523
>blanchard dick rider
opinion didn’t even make it out of the trash

>>42321532
Just excuse after excuse for keeping your dick. Trannies are not the real deal, yet you're happy to be one except for the part that involves losing your dick.

>>42321553
>mutilation fetishist can’t read posts
schizoid

>>42321381
your job has penis inspection day too, huh?

>>42321735
My job expects me to conform to cis optics.

Incredible. SRS eliminates the "penises in female spaces" terf talking point, yet trannies refuse it.

It is worth noting that at no point ITT has the OP referred to themselves as trans, this is because they are not trans and are larping as bait.
see
>>42321335
>It makes the public think trannies are just men playing dress up and erodes trans rights.
Not "It makes the public think we are just men playing dressup and erodes our rights"
Inb4 "hurr you just wanna keep ur dick"
I fully plan on getting SRS, but if you want permanent effects that change how you actually function in society day to day (ie: actual transition) then face/body passing (when clothed) matters more than SRS and should be the first priority. HRT will already drop your libido / give you ED, which no cis larper is going to tolerate for an extended period.
>>42321531
>you should self-pay for SRS before starting HRT
Absolutely retarded take, HRT has less risk associated and is vastly cheaper, an 18-year-old college student can't afford SRS but they can probably afford a vial.
A take that can only come from a john 35 gigahonlateshit / larper who established a full time job with insurance etc and thinks HRT start date doesn't matter.
>>42321911
Completely ignores the accessibility issue around SRS btw

>>42321911
A dickless man without E is infinitely more of a danger to any cis woman than a dicked up tranny who's been on E for over a year.

>>42321934
>HRT will already drop your libido / give you ED
Untrue for true trans
>HRT start date doesn't matter
True for true trans

>>42322002
Actual gigahon copes.
And AGP, for that matter.

>>42322215
>if I call them a hon and agp then their argument will become wrong!

>>42321130
I pee standing up in women's public restaurants

>>42322265
waow

>>42322281
I meant to type restrooms

>>42322464
Oh that's less based

>>42321130
reminder: you are not capable of stopping us from getting estrogen.
none of your impotent whining on the internet will ever amount to anything

>>42322600
>you won't stop me from acting out my fetish!

>>42322464
You sick fuck