I once saw a tiktok saying "yeah trans women are women but trans men are men? Cmon" and I can get that to some extent, because cishet men are kinda annoying so they're hated by queers and women, but are most trans men even men??
>>42328265veltail im lonely and i want a friend
>>42328290I feel the same way but probably not as loney
>>42328305thats very sad and i hope you find someone to talk to soon.
>>42328310I already have, it's someone from 4chanShe's a good person to talk to
I feel like this "trans women and trans men are both women" discourse is the opposite equivalent of those terf ftms that say ftms should get to socially integrate as men but that mtfs can't be trusted in women's spaces since women shouldn't have to be vulnerable to the male gaze and sexual assault. They essentially argue all trans people are men instead. I argue a third position: we should own cis people as slaves and have them working on plantations while we larp as 19th century aristocrats.
>>42328320oh yeah. I remember you sharing your discord with someone herei hope your relationship with her prospers. i will continue to be alonegood luck to you veltail
>>42328321Both points are bad because transsexuals are nothing other than their actual genderThough I can see why there's more concerns for women's safety with cis men pretending to be trans
>>42328331Use frengen or soc, it's not good to be alone
>>42328345it’s even less good to be veltail
>>42328345ive given up on friendship. ill be ok.
>>42328353Ok.....>>42328356Ok, good luck
>>42328265Speaking as a straight man. ftm will never be male. They could be as hairy as a gorilla, chest as flat as a board and yet still they've got female holes that need to be filled. I just can't take them seriously.
If you asked the Q and + in LGBTQ+ they would tell you trans men are a subset of women.
>>42329096Likely
