Because if we were honest it would trigger tranny schizophrenia and they would suddenly feel like they were a manlier version of Arnold Schwarzenegger just because they like women as men do and because chasers like dick like gays do

>>42331021
Because trannies only fuck with men to validate themselves
you have to play to their meta attraction if you want to fuck them

When trannies are honest they get killed

>>42331021
Trannies are straight men
Chasers are gay men
This explains the divide between them

internalized homophobia caused by living in a homophobic matriarchal society where male sexuality is tightly policed

>>42331092
trannies are fem gay men, chasers are masc gay men

i love men, and i find their bodies sexy. i don't care if they're into women or not.
but of course, i don't count. you only care about passoids and 17yo 'boymoders'.

>>42331111
>internalized homophobia caused by living in a homophobic matriarchal society where male sexuality is tightly policed
In the gayest era of the gayest countries in world history. Um, no.
>trannies are fem gay men, chasers are masc gay men
Trannies are classified as heterosexual men with a misplaced fetish for wanting to imitate women. Chasers run the gamut from masc gay men to effeminate gay men.

>>42331117
if you love men you would love yourself as a male and with a male body

>>42331145
>effeminate gay men
>chasers
that's not a thing at all
being gay is no more accepted than it ever was before, this is WHY trannies exist, its a cope to try to do heterosexual dating while having gay sex

>>42331021
>>42331079
>>42331053
>>42331092

the autism of 4chan on full display, a bunch of NEETs unable to comprehend the concept of mutual attraction without coming up with some freudian narrative of philias and neuroses.

this fucking website, touch grass the lot of you

>>42331149
wtf kind of retard autosexual logic is that? why aren't straight cis women transitioning to men?

>>42331117
>but of course, i don't count. you only care about passoids and 17yo 'boymoders'.
Not true
trannies don't expire until they turn 20

Im a passoid and I love men and want to have loving romantic sex with my boyfriend daily

>>42331021
I'm starting leaning bi and like trans women. What now op?
Not everyone is prison gay.

>>42331168
because females are privileged and don't need to castrate themselves to be allowed to have intimate relationships without being seen as rapists

>>42331181
passing is a myth

>>42331199
>passing is a myth
My boyfriends parents don't know im trans so its not really a myth

>>42331092
I think they're both bisexuals.
This is what allows AGP, HSTS, and GAMP to form. Sex targets get internalized and externalized around a similar framework.

So you can have a Kinsey 2 chaser, an ambivalent tranny who uses meta-attraction, or a largely homo tranny who legitimately likes how males look and act. Lots of flavor but I don't think Kinsey 0/6 are applicable at all due to internal perspective nor what's being "chased".

>>42331155
Gay males are more accepted than trannies are. Trannies are feared and hated by women and men are trying to cancel them. You would have more social acceptance being a gay male than being trans, but you're not a gay male. You're a man who experiences sexual arousal by imitating women.
>>42331157
AGP have authentic attraction to females and female bodies, and have no authentic attraction to men. An AGP tranny uses male attraction in his roleplay fantasy of being a woman, but he is solely thinking of himself and his gratification at deceiving men, not about the men in his life.

>>42331202
your boyfriends parents are humoring you
it would be more uncomfortable to acknowledge their son is gay and in a relationship with a gay crossdresser

is op a /pol/ chud or brainworms troon
any bets in here

>>42331226
being gay is far less accepted than being trans is because being trans conforms to gender roles that men are supposed to be dominant and masculine, and women are submissive and femininine

trannies are opposed to being overt combinations of feminine AND masculine traits, thus they are gender conforming and appealing to the status quo

>>42331202
don't bother with this one, it's one of our resident /pol/tards, there's nothing you can do or say to convince him out of being retarded

>>42331239
>being gay is far less accepted than being trans is because being trans conforms to gender roles that men are supposed to be dominant and masculine, and women are submissive and femininine
Only if the tranny is straight
no one likes troonsbians

>>42331226
>authentic attraction

yeah i'm sure that has a very rigorous definition and isn't just shorthand for "sexualities i approve of"

>>42331225
Chasers will simply move on to seeking femboys or underaged boys if sex with trans women becomes unavailable to them.

AGP experienced as the motivating factor for gender transition precludes bisexuality from even being possible since AGP includes intense and irrational disgust at male bodies.

>>42331247
>no one likes troonsbians
but gays are hated in part because they are physically weak, compared to gay men/hsts, troonsbians are at least physically STRONGER and thus are not hated for being weak like fags are
people, on some level, respect autistic men for having tard strength

>>42331251
Your sexuality is heterosexual, and your fetish is autogynephilia. You have to lie and deceive people in order to try to seek approval.

>>42331149
i think masculinity is unhealthy. i'm just a hypocrite and find those traits attractive. i suppose we naturally objectify others, but it's still wrong of me.
anyway, i love myself as a human being, not as a gender.
>>42331178
they never disagree with me

>>42331264
lol what? have you seen gay men..? or are you exclusively thinking of faggy little twinks?

>>42331254
Yet they live inside a male body. And often attracted to or tolerant of other male bodies on estrogen.
I think the (low Kinsey) bisexual looseness is caused or comorbid with their flawed self-perception, too.

The "passoid" problem is how many will see themselves as female but they're not really pulling the right cues. They obviously don't see themselves with a proper lens and this enables the outward bisexual lens too.

>>42331268
oh you said it like a statement so i guess it's true, thanks anon! i'm off to continue being contentedly asexual

>>42331302
>gay men in general (not just fems) are physically weaker than straight men
Buddy have you ever stepped in a gym?

>>42331302
>gay me weaker than straights
LOL

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>>42331302
you are so fucking retarded it's not even worth replying to except to call you a faggot

you are a faggot

>>42331298
Your starting point was heterosexual male with AGP and you've decided to identify as asexual because you're uncomfortable with your sexuality.

See the problem is that male sexual urges are so powerful that they are driving the increase in mtf transitioners. If we subtracted male sexual drive and it's permutations, we would only be left with a very small mtf transgender population.

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op is retarded

>>42331368
my starting point was depressed, anxious teenager who was sexually assaulted by a male relative and i never remember a time not being sex repulsed.

i'm sure this information somehow reifies your nonsense worldview though, dying to hear how i'm actually just a heterosexual man even though i'm a decade into transition and haven't had sex since "authentically" losing my virginity at 18 to a much older man.

>>42331368
straight people don't exist, you are talking about bisexuals