it's pretty crazy that these groups essentially have the same condition yet the former get to be normal while the latter are walking laughing stocks who make everyone around them uncomfortable
>>42332469Whats crazy about it exactly?
Same condition, different approach. The worst of the hons dont even try. A hon that is going full effort can still mog some and not be so bad. But a stealth nearly 1000% of the time has put in alot if effort.
>>42332488nothing really i just like the idea of any hon reading this to feel upset
>>42332498desu from what ive seen many trannies who get to be stealth had an advantage in the form of either winning the genetic lottery or having a lot of money to spend on cosmetic surgeries. im sure many of them put in a lot of effort to look the way they do but a lot of the time its just good luck.
>>42332541Yeah. Personally, if i give up on my appearance I stop passing. At least I feel like I do. But when I put alot of effort in my appearance I have no doubt im passing and people are very nice to me and some flirt with me. Maybe its the pretty standard maybe im delulu. Ill never forget when I went to a town festival and someone asked my partner for my number when I walked away. That shit was so gratifying I felt so pretty.
>>42332528>i just like the idea of any hon reading this to feel upsetummm why? what’s the point?
>>42332541>its just good luckSo tired of hearing this cope.
>>42332601its true tho.
>>42332587because they should feel bad for ruining trans optics
>>42332469Women are judged based on their looks, sometimes very harshly. If you aren't prepared for that, don't be a woman.>>42332627Of course there's luck involved, and you can throw money at the problem but framing it like that is self preservation for lazy, ugly women, who are seen for the ugly, lazy women they are, both inside and out. This is not trans exclusive. The hons just are starting off with a worse hand.>>42332580You have the understanding of a 6 year old. But you're absolutely correct.
>>42332469I will be a stealth passoidIt is my mission crossed on my heart like luffy will become a the monkey king I WILL become a stealth passoid
>>42332782>framing it like that is self preservation for lazy, ugly womenthats why i said ''im sure many of them put in a lot of effort to look the way they do''. effort does pay off but for many passing is not possible no matter how much effort they put into trying
>>42332682I’m not ruining optics. I try so fucking hard and probably put in more effort than 75% of people here, listen to all the advice I get here, it’s not my fault I’m 4 years hrt and still haven’t been gendered female.
>>42332920it's never going to happen at that point, might as well pack it up
>>42332998No. Starting a hon rights movement.
>>42332469If you're literally never going to pass, why even both trooning out? I'm like two years on e, voice trained and stuff. I've never been gendered male in public. I wouldn't say I fully pass or anything, but it's possible I could make it one day. I just don't understand ngmis
>>42333055some people view hrtcoping is supierior to repping
I don't try and I pass
>>42332788i like you i bet ur pretty
>>42333077It seems almost like a humiliation fetish if you're going to follow through with that sort of thing. I can get hrt reppers though.
>>42333055how tall are you>>42333079how tall are you
>>42333091I'm >>42333079I'm 5'10
>>42332469Honestly, unironically, in my experience the more a tranny passes the more internal pain and instability they go through. I know trannies who pass 100% but still cut themselves and think they're the ugliest most masculine hon on planet Earth.
>>42333091About 5'7. A bit tall for my liking, but I can't really do much about it
>>42332469Balding beardmoids make me uncomfortable
>>42333009trolls on this board only know how to bully 3 month hrt girls its pathetic
>>42333109>>42333096thank you both so much for replying. i love you. you are gods children. have a joyous life you deserve it.
>>42333125thanks for the kind words. god bless you too :)
>>42333125Out of interest, why did you want to know our heights?
>>42332528>the ogre-est hon ever
>>42333055Dysphoria would much rather have be seen as a genderless thing than a man. I’m 3.5y so far, voice trained, laser, confident enough with makeup, and I can count on one hand how many times I’ve been gendered female. We both have the same mental illness and we’re both following the recommended treatment, what do you want me to say???>I've never been gendered male in public.>I wouldn't say I fully pass or anythingThis really isn’t how it works… I suggest you get your brain caught up to where you’re at in your transition before you start judging other trans women.
>>42333173Nongendered customer service is common in parts of the US
>>42333173>Dysphoria would much rather have be seen as a genderless thing than a manReally? I'm like the complete opposite. I probably get more distraught being perceived as a troon than as a man, even though I don't particularly want to be seen as a man.>before you start judging other trans womenI'll judge whoever I want, thanks.>what do you want me to say???Nothing, I'm just curious and don't understand people who are like that. Thanks for sharing :)
>>42333009>Starting a hon rights movement.I'd donate to such an effort.>>42333107Comorbidities are a bitch. A lot of trannies expect transition to solve all of their mental problems, even though they also have some sort of NPD/BPD, clinical depression, ADHD and so on. In reality that's not how this works even if you pass 100%. You're now a passoid with BPD or other comorbidity. Sure, depression may be alleviated and maybe even some attention issues (that was certainly the case for me) but it's not a panacea.>t. passoid stealth
>>42333155its embarassing so i wont tell why.
>>42333228Oh come on, please share
>>42333217how tall are you
>>42333204Oh I’m not even they/them’d I’m exclusively he/him’d, it’s sucks a relief when I get the ID’d they/them.t.britranny>>42333211All dysphoria is different but I think this mindset only exists in people who were unmasculine twinky guy pretrans, I was a 6ft2 sasquatch, different circumstances.>I'll judge whoever I want, thanks.I thought you were being snarky in your first post sorry, thank you for hearing my experience out.
this thread is so demoralizing and cruel. im saying this as someone who has passing potential but is still insecure how are some of you okay with saying such cruel things about people who were less lucky than you? do you guys not worry that you would be punished by reality for it later?? it also seems like some people here think bullying others is feminine and cute and wanna act like regina george from mean girls (the ringleader one or whatever, not lindsey lohan) and they think its a way of expressing their newfound femininity because they just became trans but its just gross..
>>42332541yeah, they had the advantage of having to prostitute themselves to save up for surgeries
>>42332528it doesn't upset me, sorry>>42333264you're on /lgbt/, siseveryone here is from /pol/
>>42333257That's fair enough, different experience and stuff. Hopefully your situation improves over time. Thanks for interacting :)
>>42332469oh hon, if you’re a tranny you and NOT normal no matter what
>>42333264>less luckyWe're trannies, the scale of luck didn't particularly turn out in our favour. Maybe I was like a war criminal for the Third Reich or smth in a past life. That would've been pretty cool
>>42333234im early on in my transition. i've been told i have a lot of potential by people here. i would consider myself tall obviously not as tall as some other people here (5'9). i worry that my height will effect the possibily of me being stealth in the future. so i ask people i would one day like to become (stealth passoids) how tall they are. if they are my height or taller i'm happy. its retarded so i didnt want to say. also i was nice when u replied cuz most ppl ignore me or ask why and i have to explain this whole thing again. or i have to ask which thread their height came from. both of you answered quickly and without fuss so i was happy. idk. im weird ig.
>>42333264Not OP but I’m a passoid and I don’t get it either. Some girls just don’t pass, but I have tremendous empathy for their situation and think we need to uplift and help each other instead of pushing people down or looking down on people in worse circumstances. The girls who act nasty to hons are the only ones I pity and want to avoid. They are spiritually ugly. I refuse to associate with anyone with low empathy like that. Rooting for you nona.
>>42333347how tall are you
>>42333239173cm (5'8? i think?)
>>42333341That isn't weird. I guess it really depends on where you live, though generally in the west 5'9 foids do exist and it isn't out of place
>>42333096do you feel like passing without trying has hampered your ability to try further/ become a gigapassoid or ultrapretty?
>>42333456I don't use terms like gigapassoid. To me, you either pass or you don't. I pass with short hair, no makeup, and wearing nothing but a bikini. Being pretty is a separate axis to passing. I pass as female, but I'm not a 10 in terms of attractiveness. More like a 6 or a 7. Nobody thinks I'm a man, but I'm also not going to get asked out by a prince or a billionaire.Passing so early on in my transition meant there was never any motivation to learn makeup, fashion, haircare, or even how to walk in heels. I settled into cutting my hair short, not wearing makeup, and wearing t-shirts and jeans. I don't want to put in the time if I don't have to, but it does mean I don't know how to make myself look glamorous, which makes me sad sometimes.
>>42333731Just simply learn it?
>>4233373166667777777
>>42333738I don't want to put in the time and effort.
>>42333731>I pass as female, but I'm not a 10 in terms of attractiveness. More like a 6 or a 7Lowkey envious.Mayyyybe I pass as a 6 without makeup.>Being pretty is a separate axis to passingAbsolutely this. And it's rarely discussed. It's amazing how often trannies confuse passing with being cute.
>>42333761I suspect confusing the two is the cause of a lot of people being told they're passoids by other trannies and then not passing irl.
>>42333731when did u get hrt also so le based ur 5'10
>>423333415'9 is tall but not tall enough to ruin a transition automatically. If you can pass then it can work in your favor because tall women can be super hot or at least fashionable, but if you're clocky then it will just make things worse. You won't get the same easy ride that shorties get.My advice is to find a clothing brand you like that makes sizes for women 5'9 to 5'11. Mainstream women's tops and dresses will not be long enough for you.
>>42333784I started HRT at age 20. Would've started at 19 but for public healthcare waitlists and it being back before DIY became easy to do. I'm aware I'm a luckshit.
>>42333776Yes. But it's also brainworms.A lot of tranny spaces are shockingly toxic (this one is pretty bad too, just not as bad). Lots of trannies just won't take the W even when they get it. Depressing.
>>42333815no offense but i know... why are you shortsplaining height to me :sob:
>>42333864>shortsplainingI'm taller than you are! I'm the 5'10 anon! I'm trying to make you feel better!
>>42333874oh mb u sounded short. thank you for trying to make me feel better
>>42333942Do I gotta reach down and pat you on the head?
