ive watched history happen in front of me for the last 10 years, there have been 4 (maybe 5 if you wanna go deep) definitons of what a trans person is, each new one more loose and trendseeking than the last and there was no pushback from the inside of the, at the time, small trans community.now its over, because the current definition in young queer circles is too broad and the demands of the trans rights movement are too risky, making it so creating laws to make trans a protected class becomes a nighmare that crumbles after just a simple round of scrutiniy.i see every time i enter the discords and even here in the boards ppl who trooned out not because they felt like a woman, but because they didn't want to be guys and be forced to socialise like/with males (stereotypical toxic males), i don't think that makes them women, it just makes them lonely vulnerable men betrayed by the system of values that men are forced into in this new digital age. its gotten so bad that a week ago i went out with some friends and one of them imvited of her friends own friends and after they said they were trans i had no goddam idea of what they ment. like, they looked sorta femmenine, but they did not pass and the whole thing looked more like a giant cope with no intention to pass other than "pass" to their small group of friends who would never deny them validation (friends tend to do that). like, i don't know what "trans" means anymore, and i cannot train my brain to lie to me when what i see is not a woman or a woman wrongfully trapped in a man's body, its just a male seeking validation and emotional support from queer groups and online spaces.im gonna get another beer brb
>>42339549you're right nona and you should say itthis is why we need to reclaim the term transsexual and let all the trenders do whatever it is they're doing
The real transsexuals are the ones with severe cross-sex physical development who transition because society will not accept them as their natal sex.Everyone else who transitions does it as a fetish.Being a skinnyfat male or just having gyno does not count as the first type.
>>42339592TRVTHNVKE!
>>42339549The majority of MTFs have always been AGP.
>>42339613people used to ask if i was a girl and my friends said i would be cute if i were a girl before i trooned, does that count?
>>42339613>transsexuals are when intersex ok buddy go back to your cave
>>42339637No.
>>42339592that's kinda ironic when transsexual focused on 'the surgery' rather than being 'passing'. there's always been hons, there's always been people who don't voice train, and whatever. but those people were repulsive, so they didn't get shown on reality shows, they just got laughed at. you're just another retard who wants to return to a time which never existed.>>42339549it's weird that as a 'fag' that you want so desperately for trannies 'to be forced to socialise like/with' het females and conform to traditional hetero standards so bad. you hint at having this deep knowledge of the progression of the trans community and its culture and yet you say literally nothing of substance; you just feign confusion about meeting a tranny who didn't pass.i don't even like a lot of the new tranny rhetoric. but it's because it's been produced by straight people trying to co-opt this shit for their own ends. it's about trying to make it profitable while downplaying parts that could actually change society. this is why it's gone from "soul trapped in a woman's body" to "being trans is when you dye your hair!" both of these ideas are nonsense that's born from the mouths of straight people (even if it a tranny says it themselves). it's pussy shit, a desperate attempt to fit into a society which hates your guts and wants you dead or in the circus.