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Relationship wise. I won't specify what they are cause its not the point and I've been flooding this place up with them for a few weeks now cuz Im a lonely gay faggot loser bitch. Just know that they're so niche I'm fine with someone only being into them and working up into a relationship from that point on.
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It's not important, I've never had a lot in common with women but we take a little interest in each others hobbies. They might play a little racing vidya with me, I might take them shopping or watch a shitty chick flick with them. The time we spend together is mostly cuddling, talking, fucking, taking care of each other, or just generic activities like walks, drives, dates.
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same answer as ever, possible but improbable
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>>42348091
it's more realistic to try and find someone who is merely tolerant of your "niche interest"
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>>42348110
Are you straight? Cis male? It's a little bit different because I'm mtf and mtfsexual with little leniency to anything else.
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>>42348139
Yes and yes, sorry if this is a stupid question but how's it different? Partners are partners right?
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tell me your freaking niche interest
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>>42348143
Not sure if its true for all lesbian attraction but I remember reading this lesbian concept called when I first found out about my dysphoria called "do you want her or want to be her?" Again not sure if it's a purely lesbian thing but most of the people I end up liking are people I'd kind of want to be.
>>42348131
Please god say no. I can't deal with that. I feel like all of the awful straight relationships around me are people who don't have similar interests but stay with their partner because they're a "catch."
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>>42348235
*I remember reading this lesbian concept called "do you want her or want to be her" sorry I fucked it up :P
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>>42348235
Is that what lgbts here refer to as skinwalking?
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>>42348091
are they really so weird that you can't just ask someone to try them? like if it's uhh a sport find someone into sport in general? not just saying what the fuck it is makes this a lot more complicated than it needs to be
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>>42348297
Well thats mainly a derogatory term towards the self about feeling inadequate compared to cis people, but it also fits in this situation.
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>>42348347
Sorry I forgot to respond. Basically my niche interest is weird art. That's not that bad but I am also an artist that if I could would dedicate all of my time to making weird art. So you can see how interests and lifestyle meld into one whole thing. The fantasy that I spend my time working up to is to be someone like David Lynch who just comes up with ideas and spends all of his time working them out no matter how offputting or ridiculous they are. Sounds absolutely pointless and hopeless right? Exactly. I couldn't be with someone who didn't get the part of me that says "this should be my whole life!" when I see something that influences me or could basically brush whatever they actually thought about the stuff I'm into cause it was from me or I liked it. And I know a lot of trans people are into weird art like Femtanyl and whatever but I'm not into that whole wave... at all. I don't think I could be with someone who was only into that. You see how this quickly becomes me being pretentious? But it's not like I'm trying to be I'm just reflecting what I've seen and how I feel.

You said sports so I'll create an analog using it: most people into sports as a pastime watch it and maybe play it with their friends occasionally. For me it's like if I was thinking about sports all the time and whenever I wasn't at work I worked out to try and be a D1 athlete but never actually tried out for it, I just liked watching sports enough to do it.

TL;DR I'm a weird artist and need someone else to be a weird artist too (or at least be heavily into it)
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>>42348879
Trying to get someone into it isn't a bad idea but I don't think it's guaranteed with what I'm into. I'm trying not to be pretentious here like "my taste is really fucked up" but I don't really know if most people could like this painting enough to see why I would spend the next 5 years trying to recreate it. Also typical "you should never get into a relationship hoping to change a person."

My parent's relationship is like this. My dad is into typical comic book nerd shit but my mom could care less and watching my dad try to explain his favorite things to my mom but getting nowhere because my mom doesn't listen and even if she did would never be into that shit is fucking brutal, it's obvious they only bonded together cause of shared trauma and I think this is ultimately the road most trannies will go down. I really don't want to be them but at the same time the options are so limited it's frustrating.
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>>42348879
You sound perfect for me no jokes. I'm the same except wanting to be a writer of weird transgressive fiction. I'm kind of limited by having a high pressure job that takes up most of my time but I totally understand what you mean when you say "this should be my whole life". And I've loved everything I've seen of David Lynch, though granted I haven't seen it all.
Also I'm very much like you in the sense that I can't be with someone who doesn't share my interests. No offense to >>42348110 but I don't think I would be able to function in a relationship like this and I kind of envy those who can.
I'm FtM though so I'm excluded from your dating pool alas.
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>>42348945
thank you for the abstract pepe
isn't art full of obsessive gays? i'm allergic to culture or whatever this is, but meeting someone who gets it at a homo art college or a homo bar/homo coffee place near one doesn't sound too impossible
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>>42348956
>I'm FtM though so I'm excluded from your dating pool alas.
This is the other thing. There have been multiple oh I'm that but FTM/cis/whatever responses to any post I make about this. In my head I think well maybe if the right person came along... but in my heart I couldn't be with someone who had a beard or wanted to grow a mustache or wanted to become a man in old age. What do you feel about your male identity? For me being MTF and hormones are just a way for me to get closer to androgyny, are you the same?

And forgive me for asking but is your transgressive fiction anywhere on the web or any profile I could wait to see it on, don't take it as me trying to date I'm just curious what your idea entails.
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>>42348235
>Please god say no. I can't deal with that. I feel like all of the awful straight relationships around me are people who don't have similar interests but stay with their partner because they're a "catch."
Pretty much every relationship Ive had has the point where the other person says "you're so weird" or "sometimes I dont get you" and it always feels like the death knell in the relationship

I get super passionate about niche interests okay? sorry I dont just enjoy zoning out against some bleak reality show
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>>42348998
I live in a smallish city where there's a big art college, once you're out of the system it's hard to find other artists in the city because they A move out of the city to New York or LA (which I've considered moving to but couldn't be bothered to now) or B are way too young. I'm 23.

A lot of them are also fake gays and fake artists that stop being gay once they find another straight person and stop being artists once they get a dayjob.
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>>42349017
To put it in music terms, it's kind of like if you've ever tried to buy a guitar but they didn't have your colorway or the shape that you like or those versions of it were too expensive, people will point out that you don't need one that looks good because you're making music at the end of the day. If you get a guitar you don't like looking at though, you're not going to want to struggle through practicing and play it as much to the point that you eventually just put it down. It's something inconspicuous that seems dumb at first but over time can rot your brain and love for the thing out.
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>>42349073
I think i get what you are getting at. It just hearing that comment makes me feel like this person is never going to fully understand me, that there are parts of me that will just be labelled "werid" and left at that. That knowledge just eats away at me, partially because it makes me feel a little bit lonely, and partially because it makes me think that they are going to look for someone who is "not weird" which is what they often do
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>>42349005
That's completely understandable. I'm a bifag so I don't have a lot of physical dealbreaker traits but total respect to those who do.
Honestly I'm a bit different from you in that regard, I always had severe gender dysphoria and specifically wanted to be masculine, not androgynous. Though I guess I ended up looking a bit androgynous anyway. I'm curious, would your ideal mtf partner also be androgynous or do you prefer someone more explicitly feminine?
>anywhere on the web
It is but it's under my real name so it would be a big self-dox if I posted it, sorry
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>>42348160
drinking/weeding and playing games alone in my room
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i found someone who had my exact autism so i ghosted him and left him waiting in a train station
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>>42348235
This isn't a formal term for it, just something I made up to describe it for my own purposes in conversation with others, but I like the phrasing "aspirational attraction." We are attracted to people that we aspire to be.
For some people it's an inspiration thing, like how normies scroll instagram or pinterest to dredge up examples of what they wish their life was like.
A certain fraction of the population experiences this more strongly, and that's how you get heroes/idols/cults/etc... These people aren't just driven to passively "observe" the aspirational figures, but they are driven to seek them out, experience them in person, and interact.
And a certain fraction of those experience this with a sexual component.
Not a psychologist or anything like that, just someone trying to rationalize and relate their own, internal experiences to others and reach a shared understanding even if the others don't experience the same thing.
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>>42349123
>would your ideal mtf partner also be androgynous or do you prefer someone more explicitly feminine?
Ideal? Either, but I may favor someone who appreciates androgyny. I have this whole complex in my head around mtfs who aspire to be the yaoi effeminate bishounen griffith type of penishaver which is almost a "if you get this then you get the rest of me" thing, but it's so rare that I don't even care to pile it onto the rest.
>It is but it's under my real name so it would be a big self-dox if I posted it, sorry
Aww :( fair though.
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>>42349193
>mtfs who aspire to be the yaoi effeminate bishounen griffith type of penishaver
Extremely based. I find that type of person extremely attractive as well. A pity they're all wildly out of my league.
I hope you find your artistic Griffithmoder someday, anon.



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