I will now post accounts of life on Terf Island
“Myself and another trans woman were called into a meeting together with the store manager, explaining that the recent supreme court ruling may result in us being excluded from the changing rooms and toilets soon.It made me feel terrified. I already lost one job when I first transitioned 2 years ago. (I was a factory worker). My previous employer decided I should still use male changing rooms even after the effects of HRT became impossible to hide, and promptly fired me when the obvious resulting issues arose.I thought I’d found a place that respected my identity and would look out for me, now I feel like it’s only a matter of time before I’m forced into spaces that I don’t feel safe in.I’m terrified I will end up losing another job just because I’m trans.”
“I have been a regular at [a restaurant] for over 10 years and have never had problems with the staff before. This time when I got up to go to the toilet, I went to the ladies room.A member of staff saw and came to my table after. He told me that due to the supreme court decision I would have to use the mens from now on. I said that wasn’t what the law said. They insisted it was and told me this was management’s decision. I got up and left.I felt demeaned and rather like my trust had been betrayed. This was a place I loved and frequented with staff I considered friends, but suddenly I was just a man in the wrong toilet in their eyes.”
“I was informed by HR that they are following the recent interim guidelines, which don’t allow transgender people to use the toilets of their gender, and they would instead be modifying two cubicle toilets on the other side of the building into gender neutral toilets for transgender people to use instead.These toilets are about a 5 minute walk away from my desk, despite there being perfectly fine toilets in my work area. I am only out to a few people, and so this change will forcibly out me to the rest of the workforce, violating my privacy and putting me at risk of harassment from those who are transphobic.It made me feel absolutely humiliated, degraded, violated and dehumanised.”
“I was denied access to female lounge because of being transgenderI felt upset, alienated and othered. I was invited by other women patients to take part in a spa evening, but I was unable to join them because the hospital directors would not allow me to be in a female space. The patients were upset and outraged on my behalf, they felt it was unjust.I felt like a hole had opened up, that I was a freak and not right for society.”
“I was told by management that I’m no longer allowed to use the men’s changing room (as a trans man). And also that I’m not allowed to use the women’s changing room. I would only be allowed to use the family changing room, but as I don’t have kids, this would make me feel uncomfortable and I also feel it makes me look like a creep.It made me feel like I’m being segregated and pushed out of a space based on my gender and trans status. I don’t feel welcome at the gym. I feel like they are saying I am not a real man because I am trans. I felt like they are claiming that I’m some kind of threat to people, or that by me changing in my gender’s changing room I would somehow offend or upset other people .After that, I no longer wanted to use the space.”
Sorry nona :(
“I was refused use of the changing rooms in the women’s clothing section.I was wearing feminine clothes and carrying items from the women’s section to try on.A staff member approached me as I headed towards the changing area, stopped me and said I should use the men’s changing rooms, while looking me up and down.This was despite my wife going into the same changing area a few minutes before. Another woman went in with no question a few moments later.There was no issue with the changing area which is made up of locking individual cubicles.I was upset and humiliated. I was so shocked by being singled out in this way that I didn’t have the confidence to question the staff member in the moment as I was worried I was going to cry.”
>>42348326Thanks for posting
>>42348099britoids are subhuman
“My manager told me during a meeting, after a discussion with her superior, that “the guidance is there” to say that I shouldn’t be allowed to use the men’s toilets, and told me that I should use the disabled toilets instead as I have epilepsy so I’m entitled to it anyway.I felt hopeless, and betrayed by a workplace that I genuinely thought would have my best interests at heart. I felt disappointed because I truly like everyone I work with and I feel like I’m being punished for nothing.”
The eternal anglo is a wretched mix of fascism and bigotry, in simplet terms, capitalism
>>42348099total bonger death
>>42348351I didnt realise it was this bad
>oi bruv ew cunt piss ere less u ave a fanny, drop yer knickers
“I went into the women’s toilets to A) make sure it wasn’t messy as is my job, and B) to use the facilities before continuing with my work. I then walked out the cubicle, kept my head down, and this customer stood in front of me, blocking my path and forcing me to engage with them. “You know the law has changed now” among other things were said, they also grabbed my left wrist and attempted to grab my right in what I believe was an attempt to drag me out of the area I was in.I refuted their claims saying parliament has currently passed no law and that if a cis man wanted to gain access to a women’s space, he could do just that. Do you believe criminals will obey door signs?I was shocked, scared, angry, intimidated but proud of myself for being able to stand my ground in an enclosed space with a somewhat aggressive customer.”
“On several occasions when going to the female toilets I have been told it’s female and/or stared at for very uncomfortably long periods of time. I am female (born female, not that that matters) I present quite masculine as I am a masculine presenting lesbian.I have always had this problem but more so than ever before. I understand I can be mistaken sometimes, but people seem to think it’s acceptable to basically ask if I’m female or stare at me like I shouldn’t be there.It made me feel uncomfortable and helpless. I don’t know how to dress any other way than what is comfortable for me.”
>>42348376He actually has said things to this effect in a british court of law, and the judge said he was "credible"
“I am writing this on behalf of my 18 year old daughter. She is a cis-female who wears her hair short and was challenged by a security guard on leaving the ladies toilet, who told her she shouldn’t have been in there.She was utterly embarrassed, although the security guard apologised to her, I cannot comprehend what he thought he was doing.”
>>42348373Fascism and bigotry is so normalised in the minds of brits they're not even conscious of it
>>42348374Total bonger death
“In the [supermarket] cafe there are two self-contained toilets with lockable doors. One has a sign for men, the other for women. Two women were stood waiting in front of the women’s toilets and the men’s toilet next to it was open. So to avoid being challenged and really needing to go I walked past the two women to use the one marked men’s.One of the women in a loud voice said ‘that over there is for men, this one is for women. Not for you!’ It was in an aggressive tone and made me very upset. I was trying to make everyone feel at ease by using a toilet (although both of the two toilets are the same) marked mens when I really didn’t feel comfortable using.I felt upset, shaken, wondering as a trans women where my place is in a society that now seems to think because of the ruling they are justified in being transphobic and rude to a trans woman.”
Bump
“Got stared at, glared at and finally told I’m disgusting and that hopefully this will teach me to use the right loos in the future.I felt angry, anxious, attacked.”CIS WHITE WOMAN WITH PCOS (POLYCYSTIC OVARY SYNDROME) WHO FACED ISSUES IN PUBLIC TOILETS IN ENGLAND.
“I have been consistently harassed at work by a coworkerfor some time. This harassment is sexist and transphobic. Today HR informed me this co-worker has requested that I be banned from the women’s toilets and locker rooms. They suggested that I could opt to ‘choose’ to stop using these facilities rather than end up forced to do so.I feel disheartened. A further meeting is scheduled on Monday on whether I can continue to use these spaces.”
“I went to the bathroom, as a non-binary person, choosing to use the one matching my ‘birth sex’ (women’s), and was shouted at by a stranger that I was not welcome, that I had been witnessed coming into the bathroom and she would call the police if I hurt her. I had not done anything, and needed to pee so I told her so, and that she had no right to be accusing me of anything. I used the bathroom and left.I felt suicidally sad.”
“My friend (did not wish to report herself) is a trans woman with short hair who tried to use the women’s toilets with me. She was physically barred from entering with me and told that the men’s toilets were elsewhere. She insisted she is a woman and the security guard would not allow her in.She felt disgusted and dysphoric.”
>>42348456goddamnmust have been a fuckin hideous theyfab
“I was informed by HR that after seeking legal counsel they have decided to deny me access to single sex spaces going forward.I feel like a second class citizen.”
“I experienced harassment as I entered the toilet by another customer. I’m a regular, she was someone I’d not seen before. Called me a man and to get out. I continued into the toilet and locked the door. She was shouting, so I sounded my personal alarm. I didn’t give responses as she was shouting.On sounding an alarm she left and a staff member came into the toilet. After this the woman made a false accusation at the bar which led me to make it become a police matter. When she was escorted out she called me a freak which was witnessed by 6-7 people who gave a statement to the police.I felt shaken. Sick. Insulted. Pushing towards suicidal.”
“I was ambushed to have a meeting. I was told that in light of the supreme court ruling (and following sporting bodies) that I was no longer to use the female toilets (even though I have done so for the last 5 years with no issues!).I had the choice of using the toilets that match my birth sex, the disabled toilet (which is in the male toilets!) or the gender neutral toilet which is upstairs... it stank too!I felt upset, let down, excluded, not supported.”
“I was abused and threatened by a bunch of guys after coming out of the toilet, was later told by the manager I’m banned for using the girls.I felt suicidal, I overdosed that night. I now go to [a different venue] round the corner whose landlord says I’m welcome to use the girls.”
“I was previously given access to the female toilets based on “biology” as I am and have been on hormones, and the company has not changed its policy - all confirmed by email - then a customer had been rude and complained so the assistant manager has confirmed the policy has not changed but banned me and says I look a male and threatened to ban me if I use the female toilets.I felt rubbish and scared.”
“i am a working transwoman worked for 2 years in pubs and clubs as a field engineer, this day I drove to repair a broken machine and it is a 2 hour drive, arrived and needed the loo, landlady on asking said “use the ladies”, my preferred option of disabled loo was out of order so as I passed 3 males on my way to the ladies I was seen and clocked as I had to pass these 3 males quite closely.I panicked and ran into the nearest toilet to me which was the male loo, female loo was off to the side somewhere as I had never used it before, 3 days later I was told by my colleague I had received a complaint to work and after a few days we did get the situation sorted but I can no longer enter the site as they cannot guarantee my safety.I felt devastated, I got the solution sorted with work on the tuesday but told my boss “watch out, this could all change tomorrow, and on wednesday it did because the supreme court ruling happened day after I got my case sorted.”
“I asked which bathroom they would let me pee in (I have ASD and I am a judge, so I am strongly disinclined to just break the law), and they said they have withdrawn their policy (everywhere seems to have now) and they could not say, but would let me know in a week or so, so long as I left identifying information. I explained that I don’t give out my name and address to strangers I have had to out myself to, otherwise I would sooner or later be attacked (again). I had to leave, to find a bathroom elsewhere.I felt degraded, like my existence was unimportant, physically uncomfortable, upset to the point of crying in store, because it was bringing up trauma, outing me, etc. It was really horrid, to be quite frank. It’s destroying me, I would say slowly, but no, quickly. It is quickly becoming too much.”
>>42348508im reading these anon they're very sad
I won't be reading all that text wall, but the ones I skimmed basically screamed "hon issue". Just don't look like a male and nobody stops you from using the ladies' bathroom in restaurant, as an example.
>>42348560you should read the ones by cis women then
>>42348560>Just don't look like a maleHalf of these are ftms. They exist too, horrible anon
>>42348571Same applies to cishons, don't look like a male and you won't have issues.
>>42348550It makes me sad and angry that british people can exist with such deep cruelty in their hearts, that they would make their fellows humans lives miserable, for no reason and no gain.These are people just going to work, or going to a pub, just trying to exist in society. I dont know what the solution is, i dont see how we fix this within our lifetimes. Its not possible to compeltely withdraw 100% society, and why should anyone have to.
>>42348589lmao based. let the cissoids eat each other
>>42348560>6'3 brick barrels into female restroom>looks ready to hit someone>unsurprisingly, none of the women in there say anything>brick later posts that he passes perfectly
>>42348603>they're just wanking in the ladies' loos, what's the problem?
after reading some of these I'm kind of like "why would they even bother telling their employers they are trans?"
>>42349439Trust. I told my former emoloyer i was trans.I wont make that mistake again
A lot of these seem fake
>42349406Disgusting comment from a disgusting person
>>42349439background check will show it if they don't have a grc, I suspect>>>42349451toilet wanker detected
>>42348462This one is kinda funny
>"I look like a man, and people treat me accordingly!"
>>42349406>dick dick dick wanking wanking wankingcan your british ass go back to molesting children instead of shitting up the board
Evidently rapes by trans women against real women in changing rooms are down 98% since the ruling
>>42349547>source: your ass
>>42349552This. Rapes are up
>>42349547Always wondering how they're supposed to rape with their limp dicks they get from the limp dick medication
>>42349564Most trannies only drink the little girl toilet water. The barging in is to keep kids from flushing. They dont rape anyone
>>42349621I replied to post about rapes in case you didn't realize that idk wtf you're talking about
>>42349629Im agreeing with you. Its not a rape situation
>>42349641I'm disagreeing with you I don't know what's wrong with you and I want nothing to do with it
>>42349439Generally speaking your face tells them
>>42349552>crude sexual connotation Amazing.
>>42348099It's called sex segregation, and it's a good thing. Changing genders is fine if you're into that sort of thing, but it's not changing sex. Sex will always be a delimiter, as it should be.
>>42349680>but it's not changing sexYea it is
>>42349701We should never have accepted transgender replacing transsexual nor grs replacing srs
>>42349680So if you saw a trans person outside, what would you do?
>>42349671>sexual connotationDo you think "pulled it out of my ass" is a sexual phrase? It means that it's shit, retard.
>>42349705Yeah you're probably right on that one anon. Ive completed my transition, so i dont care what terfs scream online into the void, but i think its a valuable distinction, and might help educate those on the fence
>>42349680medical transition changes sex lmaosex in medicine is defined as a combination of primary sexual characteristics, secondary sexual characteristics, gametes, chromosomes, and hormonal profiles. Three of those are phenotypical characteristics which transition changes, therefore changing sex.
>>42349701>this tired trope again Ok if it is “sex” “change” where are all the FTM transmen in men’s sports leagues? Like men’s boxing, American football, rugby, etc?
>>42349717>crashing out in severe rageAmazing, again. Just absolutely male masculine behavior. Do better. I wouldn’t want your male rage in a women’s restroom either and I’m an older gay man.
>>42348099Oh nuuuuu the predictable consequences of my own actions. What do you expect when you inject yourself with chemicals and dress up and harass people in public. Completely avoidable your just looking for attention
>>42349724Remember when that ftm fucked up that cis guy in boxing and the crowd boo'ed
>>42348099Where are these from?
>>42349735>crashing out in male ragenot beating the retard allegations if you think explaining what the phrase means is crashing out
>>42349744I would post a link but the gchq mumsnet terfs have descended. I'll post a link in a couple of days once they've gone
>>42349742No, nobody does. Post the event.
>>42349752>doubles down in the most aggressive manner available to a human AMABJesus Christ.
itt: seething honbeasts
>>42349724>where are all the FTM transmen in men’s sports leagues?usually banned for "steroid usage"there are a couple though, i remember there was one in the mens NCAA, quite a bit in boxing, one in track, iirc there was one in baseball (?)>>42349736>oh nuu the predictable consequences of my own actions. What did you expect when you dressed like a whore and walked around at night?
can you stop replying to bait you stupid mouthbreathers
>>42349781google is free dog
Sex is immutable at birthHaving tits and long hair doesnt make you a woman same as cutting your tits off or cutting your hair doesnt make you a man
Good. I recall trannies from this board saying they got $100k jobs they weren't qualified for just for being trans and they bragged about how they didn't really have to work, they were given cushy jobs because companies felt like they needed to have trans representation. The pendulum is swinging back and I'm ecstatic.
>>42349701Sex can't ever be changed.>>42349723>sex in medicine is defined as a combination of primary sexual characteristics, secondary sexual characteristics, gametes, chromosomes, and hormonal profiles.No, sex is your gametes. Your body is a baby making machine, and which gametes you have determine it's form and function.Do we need to start putting sperm and eggs on our bathroom doors? Or will you learn moderation and accept you can't have it all your way?
>>42349830Its funny cause trans people being represented caused everyone to hate them. They realized “oh this isnt just an effeminate gay man, these people are actually insane and nothing we do will make them happy”
>>42349811>>42349834>sex is le immutable that's why uh we need to know whether you changed anything ever and punish you for it, but it's le immutable!!!britnigger autism never ceases to amuse me
>>42349701If there was a way for you to change your sex you would be able to get pregnant. You would have a functioning vagina. You wouldn't have to take hormone replacement therapy because your body would produce estrogen on its own. None of these things have happened. You will always be a man who is trying to feminize himself to look female so that you can trick other people into believing that you are something that you are not.
>>42349830>>42349843the samefaggot is painful anonalso>imagines a scenario>gets mad
>>42349802WAITTHEN WHY ARENT AMAB “TRANS””WOMEN” ALSO BANNED FOR STEROID USAGESOMEBODY NEEDS TO LOOK INTO THISTHIS IS THE NEXT BIG SCANDAL
>>42349810Doesn’t exist, got it thanks for saving everybody time.>fistbump
>>42349856so you're saying the only value a female has is to get pregnant?and if yes, would you be for or against impregnating females when they are able to, in order to get their value made automatically? They are defective and will never be real women if they don't do that, obviously
I never see this brought up but arent trannies a nonissue given how few of them there are? Even if we were to blanket allow everyone to troon out as fast and as hard as they want, the average person would go through their life not seeing a troon once. Theyre like below a percentage.
>>42349834>"In medicine"You're using the evolutionary biology definition which isn't useful for day to day human life
>>42349853Innate and immutable, correct.
>>42349680>segregation is a good thinghow can someone unironically type that out, read it again, think 'yeah that's fine' and post it? how much of a /pol/tard does one have to be?
>>42349873argument ad retardantum, the 4chan classicreiterating my answer
>>42349843They hate gay men the most, and have a predatory obsession with lesbians and women. Blanchard was right about them and what we're witnessing is a result of autism and incel males moving into lgbt without really deserving protection for their fetish. >>42349862>gets mad>schizo delusions kick in
>>42349882there is more news articles on trannies in britain than there is trannies there lol you think they're going to listen>>42349888>immutable because it le hecking is!!jew on a stick ahh
>>42349883>You're using the REAL definition which isn't useful for MY LARP.fixed that for you
>>42348134A HERO COULD SAVE UShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHRpn1vjZ-A
>>42349906I am citing NIH definitions. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK581050/
>>42349882In America they are everywhere. There are at least one in every brick and mortar store, every friend group has at least one poor child hornswaggled by “trans” and everybody works with one.It’s driving people apart, it’s making people stop patronizing businesses and people are whispering behind each other’s back. I couldn’t believe how many people have joined grassroots ”trans critical” (not the real name they go by, I don’t want to expose them) groups there are until I went to family Christmas. We are a very progressive liberal family in New England and once my gay cousin breached the topic I was shocked at the response. There has been as massive sea change regarding “trans”.Something big is coming.
>>42349889Yes, segregation can be a good thing. Segregating by sex is a great example of when segregation is a good thing.I know you people may find this concept difficult, but men and women are different. Women have something men want, and men are bigger and stronger then women. So keeping men away from women while they are isolated or otherwise vulnerable is a good thing to do.
>>42349895If it exists and you care enough should be pretty easy to either post a link or a screencap.
>>42349925Trannies should have left the kids alone.You can ignore a man in a dress in the subway or in a store.You can't ignore your kid or niece or nephew suddenly claiming to be trans after learning about it in school or online.
>>42349898ohh you're a gincel, explains a lotcan you go back to your "job" of raping infants or whatever bongers do and get off your phone?>schizo delusionscareful with the wording, you almost included your fellow homophiles geg
>>42349921Everyone knows about institutional capture. The politically correct rot has spread far and wide. This couched language reeks of it. Read between the platitudes, truth matters.
>>42349925fake and gay but your response reminded me of that one poll which showed that many ameritards thinks 20% of the population is trannies>grassrootsthe roots being on Israeli soil?>>42349930yes, however i do not care enough about your whinging to take my sweet time doing it. Have a great day.
>>42349955Not fake at all unfortunately. If you live in anywhere in America ask around what people think about “trans”. Ask your family, ask your friends ask your coworkers. People are finally able to speak freely about it, that is the sea change.
>>42349966You type like an old woman lool
>>42349966>finally able to speak freelyAs if transphobia hasn't been the mainstream opinion for decades
>>42349948You do know that, in medicine, you don't treat people according to their gametes, but based on all of the outlined factors, right? That's how you provide quality medical care. A CAIS patient is chromosomally male and a gametal male, but the vast majority of their healthcare needs are female because of their other characteristics.
>>42349942Sorry sir I can't understand your angry male screeching. Please stop trying to groom children and try to bathe sometime this year.
>>42349969it probably is one geglgbt should legit implement a nationality indicator
>>42349723No it isnt. Why does everyone online complain that GP’s irl are transphobic because they’ve never even heard of the ”medical” definition of sex or ”bimodal hormone profiles”? Because their curriculum doesnt consist of tweets.
>>42349987>n-no you!you're so good at checking le immutable sex that you didn't notice you were arguing with a pooner.
>>42349988Repgen turning out to be entirely eastern euro would be funny
>>42349928this argument when fully applied without drawing lines in the sand is literally an argument for isis style gender segregation. you're literally playing into the "men are innately violent freaks who want nothing but to hurt women" identity politics bullshit that mossad wants everyone to obsess over.
>>42349994>everyone online complain that GP’s irl are transphobican average "GP" is a geriatric who doesn't know what Researchgate or Pubmed is and is barely qualified to write prescriptions for anti flu medicationthe goyverment told them what they should think about trannies and they took it as gospel
I live in the uk and I just wanna be seen as a person, it's very clearly mostly propaganda to keep the lower class divided since my existence is the perfect scapegoat for them, I just want to be a normal women who don''t have to deal with all the autistic "trannies" claiming you don't need dysphoria or have to deal with terfs or lateshits who don't pass.tl;dr: fuck politics
>>42349994>GPs>Quality medical careMutually exclusive
>>42349807Its glowies, they raid en mass.I'll just start another thread once this one dies
>>42349742In boxing they are apparently winning 3 and 0
>>42349999You're going back into your homophobe closet and I won't lift a finger to help you
>>42350024anglo society is literally built upon finding a class of people to dehumanize
>>42350013Oh yeah? The little girls room is a slippery slope to hijabs, eh? kekNah. Sex segregation is prudent, simple, and logical.
>>42350024First half was cool, then you descended into pick me territory. You're a child. In the days before youtube and tiktok we always had a whole range of gender non conforming people. We also had terfs. Its true. But they were seen as fringe kooks.It would be like flat earthers and anti vaxxers taking control of the UK govt in 20 years time, and everyone takes them seriously. You cant blame individual trans people for the systemic actions of the establishment. The terfs are a proxy interest group, they mask the true intentions of the State, as though the State was simply responding to public pressure and not imposing top down draconian policies. The UK decided we were the number one issue to be eliminated. That isnt the fault of any trans person, it was decided in 2016 when Teresa May was outsed in a political coup by Boris Johnson. The average peasant brit harbours great evil inside their hearts, had it not been us it would have been another group, look how the govt encourages transphobia but heavily suppresses anti immigration talk
>>42350024>>42350108>this is all clearly propaganda to divide us>anyway fuck anyone who's less fortunate than mebehold, the thought pattern of a real woman
>>42350126/r9k/ less misogynistic than you
>>42350108>transphobia but heavily suppresses anti immigration talkThis one is really funny kek.
>>42348398I fap to these kinds of incidents.The more they happen to cissoids, the better.
>>42350095yes, forced segregation only leads to more divisiveness, which leads to more segregation. look at south korea. the more the genders are segregated the more extreme they become the more it reassures the segregationshouldn't've engaged with you in the first place, for some reason you first seemed good faith to me. my bad, i'm retarded.
I wonder how scared the average brit is of trannies.
>>42349393like this 6'5 brick?https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/glam-6ft5in-model-kicked-out-36399985
>>42350176>A woman who makes £60,000-a-month for being 6ft 5inOfftopic but goddamn. No rest for manlets. I should actually kill myself. What's even the point of being a non-cute 5'5 man.
>>42350108yeah, admittedly a part of the reason why I even ranted a bit about other trannies near the end was because of my own personal discomfort with them more than me blaming them for the way things are now, that last part was me being a bitch and I was in the wrong for it, I just wish things will get better eventually for as unlikely as that seems rn>>42350126I'm not exactly wrong about this being used to divide the lower class desu, anyone can see that being the case even if the way I explained it was pretty hateful, it just sometimes when I'm around another tranny who clearly doesn't pass well I get dysphoric even looking at them, I wish I wasn't so mean about it
>>42350009great, then we can change the language to Polish>t. Polish repper
>>42350197why do you think I trooned out, lol.
>>42350228you were exactly right on that part, that's why the passoidbitching at the end felt so weird very honest of you to actually look back and think about it nona, hope you're doing ok in that hellhole :3
>>42350228>>42350282Neah, I dig the passoidbitching.There should be more pressure on trannies to take their transition seriously and make a far more serious effort. Most don't even voicetrain (literally the easiest thing).Common sense hon control regulation, so to speak.
Nothing more cringey to me than a tranny who thinks they're a passoid when they're not
>>42350314Ape stronger together
>>42350315>the discord said i was stunning and everyone said i was a real woman when they would get fired for disagreeing… and now that no one is under legal threat for disagreeing with me no one is playing pretend anymore?!?!!
>>42350274Yeah but i'm built like a fridge(however short)
>>42350332Turns out long hair and a dress do not a woman make!
>>42350321yes, basicallyradical inclusion has made everyhing far worse.and it's ridiculous how this self-evident fact continues to be denied vigorously.the theyfabs, the "yes ma'am" and the multitude of tumblrinas (later on 4chan, discord and xitter) - did y'all seriously think that will have no cost?
>whenever anything of substance is posted on this board the most apeish 70iq baitposters arriveMOOODS for fuck's sake that's just barely disguised raiding
>>42350349And? Plenty of cisfs are built like a fridge too lol
>>42350349For comparison, here's a 6’3” 250 lbs tranny built like a fridge.You'd be surprised how many things are possible with the right mentality.
>>42350377I'm narrow-minded/stubborn and i would not be satisfied with looking like a stocky woman.>>42350370Cishons
>>42350389>I'm narrow-minded/stubbornsorry to hear that. thank God I wasn't stubborn enough (altho I did rep for too long).
>>42350389So it's not really about needing to pass as the opposite sex. It's about wanting to be your own sexual fantasy.
>>42350314this is entirely based on my personal experience, but the only thing that made me actually troon out instead of just slowly sliding (and eventually completely falling) into depression and psychosis was fleeing the fuck out away from the eastern european shithole i was in to a place where i could just be trans even while objectively being a hon. i certainly don't pass right now and i don't know if i ever will but not being socially pressured (aka harassed every second time i went outside while not even wearing anything feminine) sure as hell made me happier and more able to actually put effort in.i just don't think this passing obsession is making people pass as much as it's making them kill themselves and never getting the chance to.
>>42350409Not even sexual but yeah i dont think i'm trans. I dont want to be a woman or even be socially regarded as such. I just want to be cute.If i could troon out and be pretty/cute i would not pursue sex or relationships precisely bc i feel like that would sully it.I also realize i'm not trans just deranged which is why i'm repping currently.
>>42350409For me it was about passing as the opposite sex.I'm okay with being a 6/10 woman naked and no makeup. People are far nicer to me than they used to be and having an F on the passport is literally a privilege.But the anon you're replying to is a reppressor. Can you really blame people for not taking up transition because they'd rather be somewhat attractive?
>>42350449I mean it's really not either or. My picks are an ugly man vs ugly eunuch. I've made my peace with the fact that i'm never gonna have friends or a relationship as a young man but the complete inability to feel self-satisfaction with who i am is pretty tough.
>>42350432Fair enough. Not gonna judge.I'm eastern European too (currently in Poland). The only thing clocky about me is that I'm not blonde, kek. On account of not being Polish lul.>i just don't think this passing obsession is making people pass as muchWe certainly can differentiate between passing obsession (pathological) and taking one's transition seriously (which is my position).Too many trannies and activists went straight up to "passing is not necessary" (never phrased like that, but understood like that in reality). And these are the results: theyfabs, "it's ma'am" and increasingly aggressive legislation.
>>42350475I dont think the legislation is motivated in any way by your passing or not to be fair.I think especially if you were to troon out and be a 10/10 people(cis women) would get even more mad.Theres really no way to transition which would make transphobes happy with you
>>42350488>Theres really no way to transition which would make transphobes happy with youBut there is a way to transition to make transphobes' arguments fall flat.Without the theyfabs and "it's ma'am" the transphobes' BS would've stayed just as marginal as it had been from the 1970s until 2023 or so.
>>42349969Why is that an insult? I thought gay men adored their mothers. Huh, weird.
>>42350545What a weird stereotype
>>42350561Ok, so what is it exactly that you dislike about mothers or grandmothers? I mean I am a part of the gay community and I love my grandmother! She’s the greatest!
>>42350613I don't dislike mothers or grandmothers as a rule. I dislike some people who are mothers or grandmothers but them being mothers or grandmothers isn't a factor in whether I like them or not. It's a weird stereotype to have.
>>42350641What’s the weird stereotype to have? You said you hate old women in general my good man. That’s freaking weird all right.
>>42350698Where did I say I hate old women in general?
>>42350708You said I typed like an old woman which you obviously meant as a pejorative. Why lie like this on an anonymous board. It’s weird.
>>42350780Not the same person.
>>42350354Every group has its weird elements.Or do you think the Heritage Foundation would say "darn, 100% of trans people are the perfect normie, our plans are foiled"Anon, its been 15 years since gamestop hon. If they cant film a weirdo, they'll lie. Draw a cartoon or find a cis person and call them trans
>>42348164As always ftms are literally the only people affected by transphobia.MtTs are just asked to use the correct bathroom.Ftms are banned from using either bathroom.
>>42350432Turns out bullying people when they're at their lowest point doesnt help.Having an environment that isnt hell on earth does help.
>>42350432>the only thing that made me actually troon out instead of just slowly sliding (and eventually completely falling) into depression and psychosis was fleeing the fuck out away from the eastern european shithole i was in to a place where i could just be trans even while objectively being a honwhere did you go out of curiosity? i wanna get out of this place lol i have no idea where to go though. i thought about going to the UK but threads like this make me reconsider, though i am hoping to be post-FFS by the time i move. france is an option too since i speak the language.
>>42351028>i thought about going to the UKNta but please, under no circumstances, should you come to the UK. Its a failed state, people dont have heating, there are queues for food, its fucked. Being trans here just makes it 100 times worse.
>>42349925>it's making people stop patronizing businessLike, all businesses? How do they get their groceries?
>>42351051the socioeconomic situation is kinda fucked but i have close friends there and i honestly find british people pleasant despite everything, the stiff upper lip can be a good thing for a society as weird as it sounds. people here have way more of a tendency to make their problems yours too, it's what i hate about it, so many bitter and angry people. ironically the exception is usually people who fled even worse eastern european shitholes than this one to come here lol like the ones who left ukraine and russia and so on.
>>42351184People will go out of their way and make a 20 minute drive to the competing grocery store that does not employ one. For instance. People have stopped patronizing brick and mortar clothing retailers that have “mixed” or “neutral changing rooms. A large second hand clothes retailer “Savers” has removed changing rooms entirely which is crazy because mostly what they sell is clothes. It’s wild what is happening in the real world rn regarding “gender”.
>>42349925>Something big is coming.Its already in motion. They have openly said they will kill us.I don't think the normies will feel guilty in time
>>42350166You can't argue that protecting sex-based spaces is a "slippery slope" to the Handmaid's Tale or whatever and then complain the other person isn't arguing in good faith. Segregation isn't inherently evil, that's binary thinking. Don't be dumb.
>>42351332Imagine being so butthurt because Lilith the 20yo toker is working at the counter that you take an extra hour out of your day just to do your grocery shopping elsewhere.
>>42348134>A member of staff saw and came to my table after. He told me that due to the supreme court decision I would have to use the mens from now on.is this a botpost or are americans really this retarded?
>>42350095Places where trans people are allowed to use the bathroom>no issues, sexual assaults do not go upPlaces where trans people are not allowed to use the bathroom>massive issues, societal paranoia, cis women mistaken as trans being assaulted in the female restrooms, trans people de-facto excluded from all single sex spacesVery logical and safe option. You are indeed the master of logic.
>>42351451Also we have data that shows that SA rates go up when restrictions on trannies are in place. Like rates literally double.
>>42351451Trans person uses the bathroom>Price of eggs goes up $1Arguing is fun and easy when you lie, isn't it?
>>42351439>americansIts the UK anon
>>42351451Makes sense a society gripped by hysteria over policing women's appearances would lead to increased sexual assualt.Almost as though these fundamentalist Christians wanted to cause chaos
>>42351513Please link data
>>42351575>Source