“Myself and another trans woman were
called into a meeting together with the
store manager, explaining that the recent
supreme court ruling may result in us being excluded from the changing rooms and toilets soon.

It made me feel terrified. I already lost
one job when I first transitioned 2 years
ago. (I was a factory worker). My previous employer decided I should still use male changing rooms even after the effects of HRT became impossible to hide, and promptly fired me when the obvious resulting issues arose.

I thought I’d found a place that respected
my identity and would look out for me, now

I feel like it’s only a matter of time before I’m forced into spaces that I don’t feel safe in.

I’m terrified I will end up losing another job just because I’m trans.”

“I have been a regular at [a restaurant] for
over 10 years and have never had problems with the staff before. This time when I got up to go to the toilet, I went to the ladies room.

A member of staff saw and came to my
table after. He told me that due to the
supreme court decision I would have to use the mens from now on. I said that wasn’t what the law said. They insisted it was and told me this was management’s decision. I got up and left.
I felt demeaned and rather like my trust had been betrayed. This was a place I loved and frequented with staff I considered friends, but suddenly I was just a man in the wrong toilet in their eyes.”

“I was informed by HR that
they are following the recent
interim guidelines, which
don’t allow transgender
people to use the toilets of
their gender, and they would
instead be modifying two
cubicle toilets on the other
side of the building into
gender neutral toilets for
transgender people to use
instead.
These toilets are about a 5
minute walk away from my
desk, despite there being
perfectly fine toilets in my
work area. I am only out to
a few people, and so this
change will forcibly out me
to the rest of the workforce,
violating my privacy
and putting me at risk of
harassment from those who
are transphobic.
It made me feel absolutely
humiliated, degraded,
violated and dehumanised.”

“I was denied access to
female lounge because of
being transgender
I felt upset, alienated and
othered. I was invited by
other women patients to
take part in a spa evening,
but I was unable to join
them because the hospital
directors would not allow
me to be in a female space.
The patients were upset and
outraged on my behalf, they
felt it was unjust.
I felt like a hole had opened
up, that I was a freak and not
right for society.”

“I was told by management
that I’m no longer allowed
to use the men’s changing
room (as a trans man). And
also that I’m not allowed to
use the women’s changing
room. I would only be
allowed to use the family
changing room, but as I
don’t have kids, this would
make me feel uncomfortable
and I also feel it makes me
look like a creep.
It made me feel like I’m
being segregated and
pushed out of a space based
on my gender and trans
status. I don’t feel welcome
at the gym. I feel like they
are saying I am not a real
man because I am trans. I
felt like they are claiming
that I’m some kind of threat
to people, or that by me
changing in my gender’s
changing room I would
somehow offend or upset
other people .
After that, I no longer wanted
to use the space.”

Sorry nona :(

“I was refused use of the
changing rooms in the
women’s clothing section.I
was wearing feminine
clothes and carrying items
from the women’s section to
try on.
A staff member approached
me as I headed towards the
changing area, stopped
me and said I should use
the men’s changing rooms,
while looking me up and
down.
This was despite my
wife going into the same
changing area a few
minutes before. Another
woman went in with no
question a few moments
later.
There was no issue with
the changing area which
is made up of locking
individual cubicles.
I was upset and humiliated.
I was so shocked by being
singled out in this way that I
didn’t have the confidence to
question the staff member in
the moment as I was worried
I was going to cry.”

>>42348326
Thanks for posting

>>42348099
britoids are subhuman

“My manager told me during
a meeting, after a discussion
with her superior, that “the
guidance is there” to say
that I shouldn’t be allowed
to use the men’s toilets, and
told me that I should use the
disabled toilets instead as I
have epilepsy so I’m entitled
to it anyway.
I felt hopeless, and betrayed
by a workplace that I
genuinely thought would
have my best interests at
heart. I felt disappointed
because I truly like everyone
I work with and I feel like I’m
being punished for nothing.”

The eternal anglo is a wretched mix of fascism and bigotry, in simplet terms, capitalism

>>42348099
total bonger death

>>42348351
I didnt realise it was this bad

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>oi bruv ew cunt piss ere less u ave a fanny, drop yer knickers

“I went into the women’s
toilets to A) make sure it
wasn’t messy as is my job,
and B) to use the facilities
before continuing with my
work. I then walked out
the cubicle, kept my head
down, and this customer
stood in front of me, blocking
my path and forcing me to
engage with them. “You
know the law has changed
now” among other things
were said, they also grabbed
my left wrist and attempted
to grab my right in what I
believe was an attempt to
drag me out of the area I was
in.
I refuted their claims saying
parliament has currently
passed no law and that if
a cis man wanted to gain
access to a women’s space,
he could do just that. Do you
believe criminals will obey
door signs?
I was shocked, scared,
angry, intimidated but
proud of myself for being
able to stand my ground
in an enclosed space with
a somewhat aggressive
customer.”

“On several occasions
when going to the female
toilets I have been told it’s
female and/or stared at
for very uncomfortably
long periods of time. I am
female (born female, not
that that matters) I present
quite masculine as I am
a masculine presenting
lesbian.
I have always had this
problem but more so than
ever before. I understand I
can be mistaken sometimes,
but people seem to think it’s
acceptable to basically ask
if I’m female or stare at me
like I shouldn’t be there.
It made me feel
uncomfortable and helpless.
I don’t know how to dress
any other way than what is
comfortable for me.”

>>42348376
He actually has said things to this effect in a british court of law, and the judge said he was "credible"

“I am writing this on behalf
of my 18 year old daughter.
She is a cis-female who
wears her hair short and was
challenged by a security
guard on leaving the ladies
toilet, who told her she
shouldn’t have been in there.
She was utterly
embarrassed, although the
security guard apologised
to her, I cannot comprehend
what he thought he was
doing.”

>>42348373
Fascism and bigotry is so normalised in the minds of brits they're not even conscious of it

>>42348374
Total bonger death

“In the [supermarket] cafe
there are two self-contained
toilets with lockable doors.
One has a sign for men,
the other for women. Two
women were stood waiting
in front of the women’s
toilets and the men’s toilet
next to it was open. So to
avoid being challenged and
really needing to go I walked
past the two women to use
the one marked men’s.
One of the women in a loud
voice said ‘that over there
is for men, this one is for
women. Not for you!’ It was
in an aggressive tone and
made me very upset. I was
trying to make everyone
feel at ease by using a
toilet (although both of the
two toilets are the same)
marked mens when I really
didn’t feel comfortable
using.
I felt upset, shaken,
wondering as a trans women
where my place is in a
society that now seems to
think because of the ruling
they are justified in being
transphobic and rude to a
trans woman.”

Bump

“Got stared at, glared at and
finally told I’m disgusting
and that hopefully this will
teach me to use the right
loos in the future.
I felt angry, anxious,
attacked.”
CIS WHITE WOMAN WITH PCOS (POLYCYSTIC
OVARY SYNDROME) WHO FACED ISSUES IN
PUBLIC TOILETS IN ENGLAND.

“I have been consistently
harassed at work by a coworker
for some time. This
harassment is sexist and
transphobic. Today HR
informed me this co-worker
has requested that I be
banned from the women’s
toilets and locker rooms.
They suggested that I could
opt to ‘choose’ to stop using
these facilities rather than
end up forced to do so.
I feel disheartened. A further
meeting is scheduled on
Monday on whether I can
continue to use these
spaces.”

“I went to the bathroom, as a non-binary
person, choosing to use the one matching
my ‘birth sex’ (women’s), and was shouted
at by a stranger that I was not welcome,
that I had been witnessed coming into the
bathroom and she would call the police if I
hurt her.
I had not done anything, and needed to pee
so I told her so, and that she had no right
to be accusing me of anything. I used the
bathroom and left.
I felt suicidally sad.”

“My friend (did not wish to report herself)
is a trans woman with short hair who tried
to use the women’s toilets with me. She
was physically barred from entering with
me and told that the men’s toilets were
elsewhere. She insisted she is a woman and
the security guard would not allow her in.
She felt disgusted and dysphoric.”

>>42348456
goddamn
must have been a fuckin hideous theyfab

“I was informed by HR that after seeking
legal counsel they have decided to deny me
access to single sex spaces going forward.
I feel like a second class citizen.”

“I experienced harassment as I entered the
toilet by another customer. I’m a regular,
she was someone I’d not seen before.
Called me a man and to get out. I continued
into the toilet and locked the door. She was
shouting, so I sounded my personal alarm. I
didn’t give responses as she was shouting.
On sounding an alarm she left and a staff
member came into the toilet. After this the
woman made a false accusation at the bar
which led me to make it become a police
matter. When she was escorted out she
called me a freak which was witnessed by
6-7 people who gave a statement to the
police.
I felt shaken. Sick. Insulted. Pushing towards
suicidal.”

“I was ambushed to have a meeting. I was
told that in light of the supreme court ruling
(and following sporting bodies) that I was
no longer to use the female toilets (even
though I have done so for the last 5 years
with no issues!).
I had the choice of using the toilets that
match my birth sex, the disabled toilet
(which is in the male toilets!) or the gender
neutral toilet which is upstairs... it stank too!
I felt upset, let down, excluded, not
supported.”

“I was abused and threatened by a bunch
of guys after coming out of the toilet, was
later told by the manager I’m banned for
using the girls.
I felt suicidal, I overdosed that night. I now
go to [a different venue] round the corner
whose landlord says I’m welcome to use the
girls.”

“I was previously given access to the female
toilets based on “biology” as I am and have
been on hormones, and the company has
not changed its policy - all confirmed by
email - then a customer had been rude
and complained so the assistant manager
has confirmed the policy has not changed
but banned me and says I look a male and
threatened to ban me if I use the female
toilets.
I felt rubbish and scared.”

“i am a working transwoman worked for 2
years in pubs and clubs as a field engineer,
this day I drove to repair a broken machine
and it is a 2 hour drive, arrived and needed
the loo, landlady on asking said “use the
ladies”, my preferred option of disabled
loo was out of order so as I passed 3 males
on my way to the ladies I was seen and
clocked as I had to pass these 3 males quite
closely.
I panicked and ran into the nearest toilet to
me which was the male loo, female loo was
off to the side somewhere as I had never
used it before, 3 days later I was told by
my colleague I had received a complaint
to work and after a few days we did get
the situation sorted but I can no longer
enter the site as they cannot guarantee my
safety.
I felt devastated, I got the solution sorted
with work on the tuesday but told my boss
“watch out, this could all change tomorrow,
and on wednesday it did because the
supreme court ruling happened day after I
got my case sorted.”

“I asked which bathroom they would let
me pee in (I have ASD and I am a judge, so
I am strongly disinclined to just break the
law), and they said they have withdrawn
their policy (everywhere seems to have
now) and they could not say, but would
let me know in a week or so, so long as
I left identifying information. I explained
that I don’t give out my name and address
to strangers I have had to out myself
to, otherwise I would sooner or later be
attacked (again). I had to leave, to find a
bathroom elsewhere.
I felt degraded, like my existence was
unimportant, physically uncomfortable,
upset to the point of crying in store, because
it was bringing up trauma, outing me, etc.
It was really horrid, to be quite frank. It’s
destroying me, I would say slowly, but no,
quickly. It is quickly becoming too much.”

>>42348508
im reading these anon they're very sad

I won't be reading all that text wall, but the ones I skimmed basically screamed "hon issue". Just don't look like a male and nobody stops you from using the ladies' bathroom in restaurant, as an example.

>>42348560
you should read the ones by cis women then

>>42348560
>Just don't look like a male
Half of these are ftms. They exist too, horrible anon

>>42348571
Same applies to cishons, don't look like a male and you won't have issues.

>>42348550
It makes me sad and angry that british people can exist with such deep cruelty in their hearts, that they would make their fellows humans lives miserable, for no reason and no gain.

These are people just going to work, or going to a pub, just trying to exist in society. I dont know what the solution is, i dont see how we fix this within our lifetimes. Its not possible to compeltely withdraw 100% society, and why should anyone have to.

>>42348589
lmao based. let the cissoids eat each other

>>42348560
>6'3 brick barrels into female restroom
>looks ready to hit someone
>unsurprisingly, none of the women in there say anything
>brick later posts that he passes perfectly

>>42348603
>they're just wanking in the ladies' loos, what's the problem?

after reading some of these I'm kind of like "why would they even bother telling their employers they are trans?"

>>42349439
Trust. I told my former emoloyer i was trans.

I wont make that mistake again

A lot of these seem fake

>42349406
Disgusting comment from a disgusting person

>>42349439
background check will show it if they don't have a grc, I suspect
>>>42349451
toilet wanker detected

>>42348462
This one is kinda funny

>"I look like a man, and people treat me accordingly!"

>>42349406
>dick dick dick wanking wanking wanking
can your british ass go back to molesting children instead of shitting up the board

Evidently rapes by trans women against real women in changing rooms are down 98% since the ruling

>>42349547
>source: your ass

>>42349552
This. Rapes are up

>>42349547
Always wondering how they're supposed to rape with their limp dicks they get from the limp dick medication

>>42349564
Most trannies only drink the little girl toilet water. The barging in is to keep kids from flushing. They dont rape anyone

>>42349621
I replied to post about rapes in case you didn't realize that idk wtf you're talking about

>>42349629
Im agreeing with you. Its not a rape situation

>>42349641
I'm disagreeing with you I don't know what's wrong with you and I want nothing to do with it

>>42349439
Generally speaking your face tells them

>>42349552
>crude sexual connotation
Amazing.

>>42348099
It's called sex segregation, and it's a good thing. Changing genders is fine if you're into that sort of thing, but it's not changing sex. Sex will always be a delimiter, as it should be.

>>42349680
>but it's not changing sex

Yea it is

>>42349701
We should never have accepted transgender replacing transsexual nor grs replacing srs

>>42349680
So if you saw a trans person outside, what would you do?

>>42349671
>sexual connotation
Do you think "pulled it out of my ass" is a sexual phrase? It means that it's shit, retard.

>>42349705
Yeah you're probably right on that one anon. Ive completed my transition, so i dont care what terfs scream online into the void, but i think its a valuable distinction, and might help educate those on the fence

>>42349680
medical transition changes sex lmao

sex in medicine is defined as a combination of primary sexual characteristics, secondary sexual characteristics, gametes, chromosomes, and hormonal profiles. Three of those are phenotypical characteristics which transition changes, therefore changing sex.

>>42349701
>this tired trope again
Ok if it is “sex” “change” where are all the FTM transmen in men’s sports leagues? Like men’s boxing, American football, rugby, etc?

>>42349717
>crashing out in severe rage
Amazing, again. Just absolutely male masculine behavior. Do better. I wouldn’t want your male rage in a women’s restroom either and I’m an older gay man.

>>42348099
Oh nuuuuu the predictable consequences of my own actions. What do you expect when you inject yourself with chemicals and dress up and harass people in public. Completely avoidable your just looking for attention

>>42349724
Remember when that ftm fucked up that cis guy in boxing and the crowd boo'ed

>>42348099
Where are these from?

>>42349735
>crashing out in male rage
not beating the retard allegations if you think explaining what the phrase means is crashing out

>>42349744
I would post a link but the gchq mumsnet terfs have descended. I'll post a link in a couple of days once they've gone

>>42349742
No, nobody does. Post the event.

>>42349752
>doubles down in the most aggressive manner available to a human AMAB
Jesus Christ.

itt: seething honbeasts

>>42349724
>where are all the FTM transmen in men’s sports leagues?
usually banned for "steroid usage"
there are a couple though, i remember there was one in the mens NCAA, quite a bit in boxing, one in track, iirc there was one in baseball (?)
>>42349736
>oh nuu the predictable consequences of my own actions. What did you expect when you dressed like a whore and walked around at night?

can you stop replying to bait you stupid mouthbreathers

>>42349781
google is free dog

Sex is immutable at birth
Having tits and long hair doesnt make you a woman same as cutting your tits off or cutting your hair doesnt make you a man

Good. I recall trannies from this board saying they got $100k jobs they weren't qualified for just for being trans and they bragged about how they didn't really have to work, they were given cushy jobs because companies felt like they needed to have trans representation. The pendulum is swinging back and I'm ecstatic.

>>42349701
Sex can't ever be changed.

>>42349723
>sex in medicine is defined as a combination of primary sexual characteristics, secondary sexual characteristics, gametes, chromosomes, and hormonal profiles.
No, sex is your gametes. Your body is a baby making machine, and which gametes you have determine it's form and function.
Do we need to start putting sperm and eggs on our bathroom doors? Or will you learn moderation and accept you can't have it all your way?

>>42349830
Its funny cause trans people being represented caused everyone to hate them. They realized “oh this isnt just an effeminate gay man, these people are actually insane and nothing we do will make them happy”

>>42349811
>>42349834
>sex is le immutable that's why uh we need to know whether you changed anything ever and punish you for it, but it's le immutable!!!
britnigger autism never ceases to amuse me

>>42349701
If there was a way for you to change your sex you would be able to get pregnant. You would have a functioning vagina. You wouldn't have to take hormone replacement therapy because your body would produce estrogen on its own. None of these things have happened. You will always be a man who is trying to feminize himself to look female so that you can trick other people into believing that you are something that you are not.

>>42349830
>>42349843
the samefaggot is painful anon
also
>imagines a scenario
>gets mad

>>42349802
WAIT
THEN WHY ARENT AMAB “TRANS””WOMEN” ALSO BANNED FOR STEROID USAGE
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LOOK INTO THIS
THIS IS THE NEXT BIG SCANDAL

>>42349810
Doesn’t exist, got it thanks for saving everybody time.
>fistbump

>>42349856
so you're saying the only value a female has is to get pregnant?
and if yes, would you be for or against impregnating females when they are able to, in order to get their value made automatically? They are defective and will never be real women if they don't do that, obviously

I never see this brought up but arent trannies a nonissue given how few of them there are? Even if we were to blanket allow everyone to troon out as fast and as hard as they want, the average person would go through their life not seeing a troon once. Theyre like below a percentage.

>>42349834
>"In medicine"
You're using the evolutionary biology definition which isn't useful for day to day human life

>>42349853
Innate and immutable, correct.

>>42349680
>segregation is a good thing
how can someone unironically type that out, read it again, think 'yeah that's fine' and post it? how much of a /pol/tard does one have to be?

>>42349873
argument ad retardantum, the 4chan classic
reiterating my answer

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>>42349843
They hate gay men the most, and have a predatory obsession with lesbians and women. Blanchard was right about them and what we're witnessing is a result of autism and incel males moving into lgbt without really deserving protection for their fetish.

>>42349862
>gets mad
>schizo delusions kick in

>>42349882
there is more news articles on trannies in britain than there is trannies there lol you think they're going to listen
>>42349888
>immutable because it le hecking is!!
jew on a stick ahh

>>42349883
>You're using the REAL definition which isn't useful for MY LARP.
fixed that for you

>>42348134
A HERO COULD SAVE US
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHRpn1vjZ-A

>>42349906
I am citing NIH definitions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK581050/

>>42349882
In America they are everywhere. There are at least one in every brick and mortar store, every friend group has at least one poor child hornswaggled by “trans” and everybody works with one.
It’s driving people apart, it’s making people stop patronizing businesses and people are whispering behind each other’s back. I couldn’t believe how many people have joined grassroots ”trans critical” (not the real name they go by, I don’t want to expose them) groups there are until I went to family Christmas. We are a very progressive liberal family in New England and once my gay cousin breached the topic I was shocked at the response. There has been as massive sea change regarding “trans”.
Something big is coming.

>>42349889
Yes, segregation can be a good thing. Segregating by sex is a great example of when segregation is a good thing.
I know you people may find this concept difficult, but men and women are different. Women have something men want, and men are bigger and stronger then women. So keeping men away from women while they are isolated or otherwise vulnerable is a good thing to do.

>>42349895
If it exists and you care enough should be pretty easy to either post a link or a screencap.

>>42349925
Trannies should have left the kids alone.
You can ignore a man in a dress in the subway or in a store.
You can't ignore your kid or niece or nephew suddenly claiming to be trans after learning about it in school or online.

>>42349898
ohh you're a gincel, explains a lot
can you go back to your "job" of raping infants or whatever bongers do and get off your phone?
>schizo delusions
careful with the wording, you almost included your fellow homophiles geg

>>42349921
Everyone knows about institutional capture. The politically correct rot has spread far and wide. This couched language reeks of it. Read between the platitudes, truth matters.

>>42349925
fake and gay but your response reminded me of that one poll which showed that many ameritards thinks 20% of the population is trannies
>grassroots
the roots being on Israeli soil?
>>42349930
yes, however i do not care enough about your whinging to take my sweet time doing it. Have a great day.

>>42349955
Not fake at all unfortunately. If you live in anywhere in America ask around what people think about “trans”. Ask your family, ask your friends ask your coworkers. People are finally able to speak freely about it, that is the sea change.

>>42349966
You type like an old woman lool

>>42349966
>finally able to speak freely
As if transphobia hasn't been the mainstream opinion for decades

>>42349948
You do know that, in medicine, you don't treat people according to their gametes, but based on all of the outlined factors, right? That's how you provide quality medical care. A CAIS patient is chromosomally male and a gametal male, but the vast majority of their healthcare needs are female because of their other characteristics.

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>>42349942
Sorry sir I can't understand your angry male screeching. Please stop trying to groom children and try to bathe sometime this year.

>>42349969
it probably is one geg
lgbt should legit implement a nationality indicator

>>42349723
No it isnt. Why does everyone online complain that GP’s irl are transphobic because they’ve never even heard of the ”medical” definition of sex or ”bimodal hormone profiles”? Because their curriculum doesnt consist of tweets.

>>42349987
>n-no you!
you're so good at checking le immutable sex that you didn't notice you were arguing with a pooner.

>>42349988
Repgen turning out to be entirely eastern euro would be funny

>>42349928
this argument when fully applied without drawing lines in the sand is literally an argument for isis style gender segregation. you're literally playing into the "men are innately violent freaks who want nothing but to hurt women" identity politics bullshit that mossad wants everyone to obsess over.

>>42349994
>everyone online complain that GP’s irl are transphobic
an average "GP" is a geriatric who doesn't know what Researchgate or Pubmed is and is barely qualified to write prescriptions for anti flu medication
the goyverment told them what they should think about trannies and they took it as gospel

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I live in the uk and I just wanna be seen as a person, it's very clearly mostly propaganda to keep the lower class divided since my existence is the perfect scapegoat for them, I just want to be a normal women who don''t have to deal with all the autistic "trannies" claiming you don't need dysphoria or have to deal with terfs or lateshits who don't pass.

tl;dr: fuck politics

>>42349994
>GPs
>Quality medical care
Mutually exclusive

>>42349807
Its glowies, they raid en mass.

I'll just start another thread once this one dies

>>42349742
In boxing they are apparently winning 3 and 0

>>42349999
You're going back into your homophobe closet and I won't lift a finger to help you

>>42350024
anglo society is literally built upon finding a class of people to dehumanize

>>42350013
Oh yeah? The little girls room is a slippery slope to hijabs, eh? kek
Nah. Sex segregation is prudent, simple, and logical.

>>42350024
First half was cool, then you descended into pick me territory.

You're a child. In the days before youtube and tiktok we always had a whole range of gender non conforming people. We also had terfs. Its true. But they were seen as fringe kooks.

It would be like flat earthers and anti vaxxers taking control of the UK govt in 20 years time, and everyone takes them seriously. You cant blame individual trans people for the systemic actions of the establishment.

The terfs are a proxy interest group, they mask the true intentions of the State, as though the State was simply responding to public pressure and not imposing top down draconian policies. The UK decided we were the number one issue to be eliminated. That isnt the fault of any trans person, it was decided in 2016 when Teresa May was outsed in a political coup by Boris Johnson. The average peasant brit harbours great evil inside their hearts, had it not been us it would have been another group, look how the govt encourages transphobia but heavily suppresses anti immigration talk

>>42350024
>>42350108
>this is all clearly propaganda to divide us
>anyway fuck anyone who's less fortunate than me
behold, the thought pattern of a real woman

>>42350126
/r9k/ less misogynistic than you

>>42350108
>transphobia but heavily suppresses anti immigration talk
This one is really funny kek.

>>42348398
I fap to these kinds of incidents.
The more they happen to cissoids, the better.

>>42350095
yes, forced segregation only leads to more divisiveness, which leads to more segregation. look at south korea. the more the genders are segregated the more extreme they become the more it reassures the segregation
shouldn't've engaged with you in the first place, for some reason you first seemed good faith to me. my bad, i'm retarded.

I wonder how scared the average brit is of trannies.

>>42349393
like this 6'5 brick?
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/glam-6ft5in-model-kicked-out-36399985

>>42350176
>A woman who makes £60,000-a-month for being 6ft 5in
Offtopic but goddamn. No rest for manlets. I should actually kill myself. What's even the point of being a non-cute 5'5 man.

>>42350108
yeah, admittedly a part of the reason why I even ranted a bit about other trannies near the end was because of my own personal discomfort with them more than me blaming them for the way things are now, that last part was me being a bitch and I was in the wrong for it, I just wish things will get better eventually for as unlikely as that seems rn
>>42350126
I'm not exactly wrong about this being used to divide the lower class desu, anyone can see that being the case even if the way I explained it was pretty hateful, it just sometimes when I'm around another tranny who clearly doesn't pass well I get dysphoric even looking at them, I wish I wasn't so mean about it

>>42350009
great, then we can change the language to Polish

>t. Polish repper

>>42350197
why do you think I trooned out, lol.

>>42350228
you were exactly right on that part, that's why the passoidbitching at the end felt so weird
very honest of you to actually look back and think about it nona, hope you're doing ok in that hellhole :3

>>42350228
>>42350282
Neah, I dig the passoidbitching.
There should be more pressure on trannies to take their transition seriously and make a far more serious effort. Most don't even voicetrain (literally the easiest thing).
Common sense hon control regulation, so to speak.

Nothing more cringey to me than a tranny who thinks they're a passoid when they're not

>>42350314
Ape stronger together

>>42350315
>the discord said i was stunning and everyone said i was a real woman when they would get fired for disagreeing… and now that no one is under legal threat for disagreeing with me no one is playing pretend anymore?!?!!

>>42350274
Yeah but i'm built like a fridge(however short)

>>42350332
Turns out long hair and a dress do not a woman make!

>>42350321
yes, basically
radical inclusion has made everyhing far worse.
and it's ridiculous how this self-evident fact continues to be denied vigorously.
the theyfabs, the "yes ma'am" and the multitude of tumblrinas (later on 4chan, discord and xitter) - did y'all seriously think that will have no cost?

>whenever anything of substance is posted on this board the most apeish 70iq baitposters arrive
MOOODS for fuck's sake that's just barely disguised raiding

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>>42350349
And? Plenty of cisfs are built like a fridge too lol

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>>42350349
For comparison, here's a 6’3” 250 lbs tranny built like a fridge.
You'd be surprised how many things are possible with the right mentality.

>>42350377
I'm narrow-minded/stubborn and i would not be satisfied with looking like a stocky woman.
>>42350370
Cishons

>>42350389
>I'm narrow-minded/stubborn
sorry to hear that. thank God I wasn't stubborn enough (altho I did rep for too long).

>>42350389
So it's not really about needing to pass as the opposite sex. It's about wanting to be your own sexual fantasy.

>>42350314
this is entirely based on my personal experience, but
the only thing that made me actually troon out instead of just slowly sliding (and eventually completely falling) into depression and psychosis was fleeing the fuck out away from the eastern european shithole i was in to a place where i could just be trans even while objectively being a hon. i certainly don't pass right now and i don't know if i ever will but not being socially pressured (aka harassed every second time i went outside while not even wearing anything feminine) sure as hell made me happier and more able to actually put effort in.
i just don't think this passing obsession is making people pass as much as it's making them kill themselves and never getting the chance to.

>>42350409
Not even sexual but yeah i dont think i'm trans. I dont want to be a woman or even be socially regarded as such. I just want to be cute.
If i could troon out and be pretty/cute i would not pursue sex or relationships precisely bc i feel like that would sully it.
I also realize i'm not trans just deranged which is why i'm repping currently.

>>42350409
For me it was about passing as the opposite sex.
I'm okay with being a 6/10 woman naked and no makeup. People are far nicer to me than they used to be and having an F on the passport is literally a privilege.
But the anon you're replying to is a reppressor. Can you really blame people for not taking up transition because they'd rather be somewhat attractive?

>>42350449
I mean it's really not either or. My picks are an ugly man vs ugly eunuch. I've made my peace with the fact that i'm never gonna have friends or a relationship as a young man but the complete inability to feel self-satisfaction with who i am is pretty tough.

>>42350432
Fair enough. Not gonna judge.
I'm eastern European too (currently in Poland). The only thing clocky about me is that I'm not blonde, kek. On account of not being Polish lul.
>i just don't think this passing obsession is making people pass as much
We certainly can differentiate between passing obsession (pathological) and taking one's transition seriously (which is my position).
Too many trannies and activists went straight up to "passing is not necessary" (never phrased like that, but understood like that in reality). And these are the results: theyfabs, "it's ma'am" and increasingly aggressive legislation.

>>42350475
I dont think the legislation is motivated in any way by your passing or not to be fair.
I think especially if you were to troon out and be a 10/10 people(cis women) would get even more mad.
Theres really no way to transition which would make transphobes happy with you

>>42350488
>Theres really no way to transition which would make transphobes happy with you
But there is a way to transition to make transphobes' arguments fall flat.
Without the theyfabs and "it's ma'am" the transphobes' BS would've stayed just as marginal as it had been from the 1970s until 2023 or so.

>>42349969
Why is that an insult? I thought gay men adored their mothers. Huh, weird.

>>42350545
What a weird stereotype

>>42350561
Ok, so what is it exactly that you dislike about mothers or grandmothers? I mean I am a part of the gay community and I love my grandmother! She’s the greatest!

>>42350613
I don't dislike mothers or grandmothers as a rule. I dislike some people who are mothers or grandmothers but them being mothers or grandmothers isn't a factor in whether I like them or not. It's a weird stereotype to have.

>>42350641
What’s the weird stereotype to have? You said you hate old women in general my good man. That’s freaking weird all right.

>>42350698
Where did I say I hate old women in general?

>>42350708
You said I typed like an old woman which you obviously meant as a pejorative. Why lie like this on an anonymous board. It’s weird.

>>42350780
Not the same person.

>>42350354
Every group has its weird elements.

Or do you think the Heritage Foundation would say "darn, 100% of trans people are the perfect normie, our plans are foiled"

Anon, its been 15 years since gamestop hon. If they cant film a weirdo, they'll lie. Draw a cartoon or find a cis person and call them trans

>>42348164
As always ftms are literally the only people affected by transphobia.
MtTs are just asked to use the correct bathroom.
Ftms are banned from using either bathroom.

>>42350432
Turns out bullying people when they're at their lowest point doesnt help.

Having an environment that isnt hell on earth does help.

>>42350432
>the only thing that made me actually troon out instead of just slowly sliding (and eventually completely falling) into depression and psychosis was fleeing the fuck out away from the eastern european shithole i was in to a place where i could just be trans even while objectively being a hon
where did you go out of curiosity? i wanna get out of this place lol i have no idea where to go though. i thought about going to the UK but threads like this make me reconsider, though i am hoping to be post-FFS by the time i move. france is an option too since i speak the language.

>>42351028
>i thought about going to the UK

Nta but please, under no circumstances, should you come to the UK. Its a failed state, people dont have heating, there are queues for food, its fucked. Being trans here just makes it 100 times worse.

>>42349925
>it's making people stop patronizing business
Like, all businesses? How do they get their groceries?

>>42351051
the socioeconomic situation is kinda fucked but i have close friends there and i honestly find british people pleasant despite everything, the stiff upper lip can be a good thing for a society as weird as it sounds. people here have way more of a tendency to make their problems yours too, it's what i hate about it, so many bitter and angry people. ironically the exception is usually people who fled even worse eastern european shitholes than this one to come here lol like the ones who left ukraine and russia and so on.

>>42351184

People will go out of their way and make a 20 minute drive to the competing grocery store that does not employ one. For instance. People have stopped patronizing brick and mortar clothing retailers that have “mixed” or “neutral changing rooms. A large second hand clothes retailer “Savers” has removed changing rooms entirely which is crazy because mostly what they sell is clothes. It’s wild what is happening in the real world rn regarding “gender”.

>>42349925
>Something big is coming.

Its already in motion. They have openly said they will kill us.

I don't think the normies will feel guilty in time

>>42350166
You can't argue that protecting sex-based spaces is a "slippery slope" to the Handmaid's Tale or whatever and then complain the other person isn't arguing in good faith. Segregation isn't inherently evil, that's binary thinking. Don't be dumb.

>>42351332
Imagine being so butthurt because Lilith the 20yo toker is working at the counter that you take an extra hour out of your day just to do your grocery shopping elsewhere.

>>42348134
>A member of staff saw and came to my table after. He told me that due to the supreme court decision I would have to use the mens from now on.

is this a botpost or are americans really this retarded?

>>42350095
Places where trans people are allowed to use the bathroom
>no issues, sexual assaults do not go up
Places where trans people are not allowed to use the bathroom
>massive issues, societal paranoia, cis women mistaken as trans being assaulted in the female restrooms, trans people de-facto excluded from all single sex spaces
Very logical and safe option. You are indeed the master of logic.

>>42351451
Also we have data that shows that SA rates go up when restrictions on trannies are in place. Like rates literally double.

>>42351451
Trans person uses the bathroom
>Price of eggs goes up $1
Arguing is fun and easy when you lie, isn't it?

>>42351439
>americans
Its the UK anon

>>42351451
Makes sense a society gripped by hysteria over policing women's appearances would lead to increased sexual assualt.

Almost as though these fundamentalist Christians wanted to cause chaos

>>42351513
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>>42351575
>Source

>>42351529
Point 1: Sexual assaults do not go up
https://escholarship.org/content/qt4rs4n6h0/qt4rs4n6h0_noSplash_8740e92d7f24b6c89dbd4bd4d27fbbcb.pdf?t=qecca2
>There was no evidence that privacy and safety changed when transgender people were legally able to access restrooms and other facilities according to their gender identity.

Point 2: Societal paranoia
>see this entire thread, places where trans people can use the bathroom don't have these kinds of issues since people do not shit their pants over people going to the toilet

Point 3: Cis women being assaulted
>see again the multitudes of cases where this is happening including in this thread
https://www.advocate.com/news/lesbian-mistaken-transgender-arizona-walmart

Point 4: De facto exclusion
>again, cases in this thread, as well as evidence showing these policies increase assaults against trans people
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/trans-bathroom-press-release/

>iss about protectin da women in it?
>*Assaults a woman for saying her rapist was white*
Clown nation

>>42348099
You wouldn't leave kids alone and this is what you get trannies

>>42351367
>protecting sex-based spaces
they were created because men were offended at the thought of sharing a space with a female anon. the "feminist" rebranding is quite new

>>42351800
Trannies got to learn when to fold 'em, you'll never win this. The harder you push the harder the push back, just tuck your willy between your legs and run away home, faggot, or we'll stop tolerating your nonsense all together.

AND TO THINK THAT TWENTY YEARS AGO NONE OF THIS SHIT WOULD HAVE EVEN BEEN AN ISSUE. YOU WOULD JUST HAVE ACCEPTED YOU GO TO THE TOILET FOR THE SEX YOU WERE BORN IN.
Wow. Makes me think so hard I used caps lock cruise control.
Seems fine to me. What is the issue?

>>42351942
>Let me just go to the restroom I'm far more likely to be raped or murdered in!

>>42351942
>YOU WOULD JUST HAVE ACCEPTED YOU GO TO THE TOILET FOR THE SEX YOU WERE BORN IN.
i would use the womens and you wouldn't bat an eye because you haven't been fed kike propaganda about sanctity of a piss bowl

>>42351537
Still, average service sector worker giving a fuck about some supreme court shit to this extent.. on top of the fact that normal restaurants usually have something like a couple single toilets.. unless they serve fucking laxatives.

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>>42351942
and to think 200 years ago before Victorian bourgeois fucks made sexed restrooms a thing in order to preserve the fragile dignity of the second sex, we could all be pissing and shitting in single occupancy stalls like intellectuals instead of segregating people because the unified building ordinance demands it.

>>42351371
Enough people do it and it hurts profits. The only place I see inclusive pride flags anymore are hipster bars desu.

>>42352259
Most pressing issue facing the average american

>>42352090
The UK is actually that retarded.

>>42352090
I can tell you are new to this.

The average brit does nothing but hate trans people. Its the highlight of their year. An excuse to be nasty to a trans person is the reason a majority of brits havent killed themselves.

Brits don't have heating, running water or food. 5 million children living in grinning poverty, violence is everywhere, buildings and roads are crumbling.

So what. A trans person went unharmed today and that means brits cant sleep soundly at night. You have no idea how much they hate trans people

>>42352284
Yes, normal progressive people are waking up to how widespread the damage “trans” “gender” ideology caused to all of society including finance, healthcare and general everyday food and fuel costs.

>>42352500
More important than food or war. You would kill every child on earth to harm one trans person for a few mintues.

We need world war 3 to stop trans people. No earth, no trannys. You are very smart