Despite being FTM myself, and resenting society for not perceiving people like me as male, I find it kind of distasteful and cringe-inducing when trans men chime in as men. Especially in the context of people asking "do any men do/like (insert stereotypically feminine thing)" and you can scroll through the replies and 90% of the people claiming to be men with feminine interests are actually FTMs, often no-t. I don't like this part of myself or this kneejerk reaction. I try to tell myself it's just second hand embarrassment, but honestly it usually comes with an eye roll and an internal 'eugh' that makes me feel guilty. I know other people see me this way. I don't want to contribute to it. But I can't help the reaction.
I think sometimes I ask myself "why don't people see me as a man?" (at least, upon learning I'm trans. I pass irl.) And when I see other trans men present or behave a certain way, I realize, oh, it's because I'm this. If anyone were to know, they would stop seeing me as me and start seeing me as this, the participants in this Instagram reels comment section. But those people are people too, and it's not really fair to them, right? They probably feel the same crushing resignation that I do. I don't even really believe in fembrained interests or media or whatever. It's just a behavioral thing. And I ask myself, do I behave this way? Does it matter if I do? I don't feel like I have the right to judge either way.
>>42354711i feel this way whenever rapehons say fucking anything.its a part of gatekeeping the community i think.
>>42354753Shamefully, I do feel the same kind of instinctive disgust (or maybe just distaste?) towards "AGP" trans women IRL. I don't believe in the Blanchard stuff. I just notice that there are some trans women in the groups I interact with that are sort of slimier and more disturbing than the other trans women around, like the kind of people you instinctively read as a sex offender. Hair raising shit. But then I think, is this person legitimately doing anything wrong, or am I making a baseless judgement on appearance and aura? I still don't talk to anyone I don't want to talk to, but I think about these kinds of things a lot, I guess.
>>42354711Hi garg
You all think way too much to be het cisM.Way way too much."Real" men chase stimulation and justify/excuse all their base instincts/behaviours without ever reflecting on it unless someone unexpectedly lost money or got physically hurt badly.
>>42354978Are you MTF? I think this is a really feminine way of thinking about cis men. That's not a bad thing, it's just a lack of understanding or relatability to their psyche, I guess. I think it's true there are a lot more men than women with the 'npc' mindset, but most men are not actually mindless dopamine seekers with no morals. I think the disconnect is a difference in priorities: women expect men to care about net good/bad contributions to society, doing harm to other people, and sticking to their virtues. Men do have values, but they mostly value status-seeking and validation from other men. But there are plenty of thoughtful, moral, and genuinely kind men out there. I choose not to interact with men who don't align with my moral values and who I feel aren't thoughtful or kind people. If that's feminine, I don't mind. I think there's no need for the worst aspects of masculinity to be the ones we cling to the most.
