Im a bit conflicted because the bible speaks against it. I dont like how the bible has so much true things in it, but then also things I find hard to agree with. Logically it seems quite sound that a large book like that would never be wholly accurate. However, it also feels so weak when one picks and chooses what they believe in the bible.So I have decided to start a new religion. Founded on ALL religions in the world. I will merely be helping it grow in the shadows, anonymously. Why? Because I want this religion to take all the things i like from all the theological systems in the world that have been and hopefully will be, and combine them into one beautiful doctrine. So in a sense, im repackaging existing gods and reframing just what they are, and making connections between all of them, from the beginning of recorded human history.The name of the religion will be Truetreeism. The name comes from True Tree. The true tree of the divine, the sacred tree of life, the roots that we call divinity and the fruit we call man. The goal of this religion is not to worship one god, but to explore all theological works and natural sciences and find one's own conclusions on what actually governs reality, and most importantly accepting other people's conclusions within the religion. I dont want this religion to ever split like religions tend to dom the whole point of it is for it too all encompassing and open minded, division goes against the core tenet of True Treeism.. So in the religioun Truetreeism, you can worship multiple gods if you like. Me personally, i have gods that i like, and those that i respect particularly, and few who i outright worship.Since i am the first follower of this faith, i will have to uhh start doing weekly preaching sessions and maybe making some core tenets here and there.
>>42364921Understood.
sounds like a bunch of cope for someone whos going to go up in smoke or rot 6 feet under
>>42365169It is kind of cope... i want to make a religion where i do feel bad about liking women...
Isn't this just pantheon style chaos magic?
>>42365303Hmmmmmm im more of an order type person. I dont like chaos much these days... Order is Utsukushi
>>42364921>My made up bullshit is just as valid as the 2,000 year old global church created and guided by the one true God. America was a mistake. Here's the thing, there are two religions in the bible, the first is the religion of Jews. It is a religion of rules, rules they don't actually follow but pretend to because they think God is stupid or something. The second is the religion of Christ, it is the religion of love. Repeatedly throughout Christ early ministry when he's confronted by the Pharisees and Saducees he makes the point that the point to the rules is to make you into a better and nicer person, it is not to justify being an arsehole. In Catholicism, the one true faith, we confess our sins and Christ takes them away from us. He pays the price for our rule breaking. In return all he asks is that we love each other as much as he loves us. The actual living embodiment of God who had himself tortured to death so that 2,000 years later I don't have to pay for my own sins because he loves me that much, wants me to love you as much as he loves me. Naturally I can't actually do that, so I just do my best knowing I'm going to fall short.And he forgives me that too. I love Jesus more than anything.
>>42365169you know that there are gay christians and legitimate theological arguments against thinking homosexuality is wrong right
>>42365755oh you misunderstood but thats okay youre gone once youre dead theres nothing there Ive died a few times theres nothing therewhile im here why dont you tell me some of these theological justifications sounds like a bunch of garbage meant to keep serfs in line
>>42365696>In Catholicism>the one true faithLol
>>42365864there is no point in talking to someone who is not interested in what you have to say. go to any mainline protestant church and ask there once you attain an open mind. i am not wasting my time talking to a wall
>>42365696>one true faith>infallibly declare all non roman catholics are damned to hell in unam sanctam>infallibly declare atheists can be saved in vatican iicatholics are valid as christians and all but this one-true hybris is really annoying. even pope francis said protestants were right about salvation all along
>>42365864also i just now realized i misclicked this all was meant for >>42365187
>>42365864There's nothing there yet. I don't know why you personally think you would experience heaven just because your heart stopped for a few minutes. When you actually die your body is interred in the ground, where it will remain until the day of ressurection, on the day of ressurection you will be brought back to life completely healed, whereupon you will face judgement of God. Those who have kept his commandments perfectly and are without any sin will pass on their own merits into the eternal kingdom where they will live forever in paradise. There's like 3 people ever on that list and none of them are you. Everyone else gets thrown into the "lake of fire" where their story ends, disposed of, forgetten, never to be ressurected again. Jesus, knowing full well we can't follow because we're human and flawed and that's kind of our whole thing offers us absoluteions for our sins if we follow him and live in his loving grace. And those are your options. you are picking one no matter what you do.
>>42365910I asked the questions Ive read scripture youre just passing the buck akayoure full of shit :)im actually waiting to be persuaded heretry me
>>42365482Read condensed chaos or something like that. Or not, it's completely optional. My point was just that putting together your own religious system using parts from others is generally called chaos magic but there's nuance to it: there's eclectic neopagans who pull from different pantheons as well as chaotes who will go all the way into a structure, rituals, lifestyle of a particular religion they're studying for a few months before moving to a different one.There's also thelema that kind of implies that there is a system of magic that all religions sort of fit in to, and that using this you can develop an individualized form of thelemic magic to become so powerful you transcend reality. It's older and more order focused occultism but it is criticized for being overly self-insistent; and Crowley being a bit of an evil character himself.You could also check out the bahai faith that's related to none of these things excepting it believes all religions are true, I'm not sure how it works. But it has some good stories.You come across as a creative person who's good at telling stories and thinking. For this reason you might take for granted how you systematize new information and create narratives out of it. Religions tend to differentiate from one another in deep ways that make say, putting every god you encounter into a pantheon confusing - after all, which pantheon? There are metaphysics, philosophy underlying the surface level beliefs that might make putting them together a little complex. On the other hand this means that they might be compatible in interesting ways as well. The way this matters to you is that, You might want to think about how your religion fits into the everyday life of practitioners, or to otherwise sell it in some ways. My introduction to bahai was a monologue of an intelligent young man who fell into self neglect, likening his mind to a flower and its wilting. I guess my point is just you could sell True Tree a little better.
>>42365937>I learned Catholic theology from American news mediaOnce again, America was a mistake. Atheists and pagan who had not head the word of Christ and had not had the opportunity to accept him may still enter heaven as long as they were living lives in accordance with the teachings of Christ (the love and forgiveness thing). And that's Luthor, that's what Luthor reminded everyone when he started the Lutheran church. That's what the catholic Church teaches today. We don't contribute to our own salvation, Jesus does all the work for us. And it is through the love of Jesus that we attain righteousness. So you can take all of the soundbites and the quotes out of context, and join the Jews as those who think they can trick and argue their way into heaven, as if the architect of the universe doesn't already know everything you might say.
>>42365696is your image supposed to convince anyone? that is like the most retarded shit ever there is not one single co temporary primary source from the Romans that even says Jesus existed LMAO
>>42365976I've read a good book called Queertheologische Notizen by Kerstin Söderblom about queer topics in theology and the wider church context. Can recommend if you know German (I had to take it in high school and then had a year abroad there lol)i am not much made for this confrontational debatemebro-stuff so unfortunately i wont be your boogeyman
You could at least try to pretend you found golden tablets in the woods
>>42365967its not ur time is a basic one nah hell if there is one is where we are nowwhy do I think I would have experienced anything after dying idk people talk about the light as they diefor me I just blacked out and woke up nuffin Ive looked into studies which Ill have to trust me bro cus I can't be fucked trying to find stuff I was looking at like 10 years ago the recollections of brain damaged people arent reliable shocker pretty sure it's just a way of coping like when you take too many psychedelics and have a im walking off into the sunset moment *credits roll* like the tears down my faceits an unfair situation you shouldnt have to justify urself to an omni present all knowing being its pointless he lets it happen hes the shiftiest cunt of all "free will" is an illusion kept by the keeper in ur mind youve been making the same decisions over and over again those are your trials of life the brain forms habits people are predictable to a large extent if youre like me youre always learning lessons in life I dont need a crutch that tells me it'll all be okayPeople have died in my presence theres nothing no karma people who sin don't get punished here if you wanna believe that theyll burn in a lake of fire power to you but it doesnt seem that way to me
>>42364921harlot here but i don’t think the bible states homosexuality is bad. 1 corinthians 6:9 it uses malakoi and arsenokoitai which i think is debated if it translates to homos but could in reference to people who own gay slaves if irc… my memories are bad but also jesus says everyone is worthy of heaven so that mogs everything else c:
>>42366085Josephus and Tacitus. You're dumb. >>42366129>its an unfair situation you shouldnt have to justify urself to an omni present all knowing being its pointless he lets it happen hes the shiftiest cunt of all "free will" is an illusion kept by the keeper in ur mind youve been making the same decisions over and over again those are your trials of life the brain forms habits people are predictable to a large extentThat's why you need Jesus. He'll save you because he loves you, you just have to accept that love. >if youre like me youre always learning lessons in life I dont need a crutch that tells me it'll all be okaySweetheart there's zero chance you're going to earn your way into heaven. >it doesnt seem that way to meReality is that which remains true regardless of whether or not you believe it.
