Trannies need to understand that cis people don't "identify" with their gender. They simply don't even THINK about their gender. 90% of cis people are just playing the cards they're dealt. If you asked 90% of cis people:>you magically wake up as the opposite biological sex. This is irreversible for the rest of your life90% of these cis people would NOT seek out to transition back to their original sex. They would just live the rest of their life as the opposite sex, adjusting, and "playing the cards" so to speak. Basically my thesis is trannies are narcissistic and have an incorrect view on gender. You all think about yourselves way too much. I don't know why trans people are seen as "gender intellectuals" when cis people probably have a more nuanced and deep view on what gender actually is.
women are universally treated better than men, autistic men are antisocial opportunists who notice this, and imitate the shape of the type of monkey who people are nicer tohumans are simple creatures
>>42378922it always amazes me how you people can say so much yet mean so little. do you have ONE (1) atom of research to back up this 90% statistic you keep citing?
>>42379025yes its called witnessing literally every conversation this hypothetical scenario. usually it goes like this: >what would you do if you woke up as the opposite sex>lol i would have sex lol and like go out and try things haha notice how cis people don't answer this question like:>what would you do if you woke up as the opposite sex>I WOULD HAVE A MENTAL BREAKDOWN THIS ISNT ME!!!! THIS ISNT MY BODY HOLY FUCKKKK IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF IF I DONT REVERT BAC KFUCKKKKK
>>42378922I just want the pain to stop
>>42379129overthrow the matriarchy
>>42379111>Haha how would you react in this scenario that would never happen that you have zero lifetime experience with and will never ever ever have to seriously think about the repercussions ofMeanwhile people get suicidally depressed from a brain-body disconnect after losing a few dozen pounds
>>42378922>>42378945
>>42379232Why is the button test only valid one way? Seems like cherry picking of evidence
>>42379245Because "yes I would press the button" is very different from "well if it would happen I would just make do"
>>42378922They don't think about it because they are so deeply immersed in it. Like the fact you don't consciously perceive that you are breathing air most of the time. Cis culture is like 50% or more rituals around affirming their own gender.
>>42378922no, you are dumb, cissies are fucking obsessed with performing their gender and imposing it onto society
>>42379252The hypothetical posed to the cis person is would you rather be a cis woman or a trans man. I fail to see how this is significantly different from the button test. Ofc I think the button test is flawed anyway.
>>42379317Because the button test is about desiring to be the opposite sex while your proposed hypothetical is more about posing whether it would cause distress to be the opposite sex. It's an entirely different question.
>>42379365So what if they’re different tests? Is there a law of nature that we may only have one hypothetical button test? I fail to why the test’s results are rejected for being hypothetical when they both are.
>>42379409Because one requires considering greater hypotheticals and just saying "well I'd make do" is a more passive response than an actual desire. It doesn't take into account the experience of growing up with a sex that is unpleasant.
>>42379418What do you mean ”greater” hypothetical, measured in what? And why is the ”passive” aspect obligatory, you are forcing that unto the test.
>>42379433A passive response shows a lack of engagement in the hypothetical.
>>42378922that's not true at all lmao i know plenty of AGP cis women
>>42378922the real weakness of humanity is how we constantly try to put things into boxes that cannot be put into boxes. you want things to be simple, and they arent. and it can never be. its so easy to just dismiss everything you say simply because of that, its fucking dumb
>>42378922>90% of these cis people would NOT seek out to transition back to their original sexthis is not true. they believe they wouldn't, but they are incorrect.you are asking the wrong question to get them to consider the hypothetical. ask a cis woman what she would do if she woke up one day with a beard. then, separately, ask her what she'd do if her breasts disappeared and she had thick chest hair. continue down the list. then ask her to put all these things together.the way cis people would actually react is closer to the sum of their reactions to individual features being changed than it is to if you propose all of the changes happening together.gender dysphoria is antimemetic to cis people. they are capable of experiencing it (cis men with gyno can get pretty distressed about that) but they're mostly incapable of generalizing from that experience.
>>42379923That sounds like a fallacy of composition though.
>>42379923you just described something completely unrelatedmy hypothetical is about switching from passing from one sex to the other sexyour hypothetical requires becoming some weird in-between genderfreak. that's not what my post is about.
>>42379986i'm not making a syllogism here, i'm making an empirical claim. there's nothing logically necessary about this. a species could exist in which brains don't have hardwired expectations about what their body should look like and instead adapt to whatever they find themselves in, but that's not how humans work.
>>42380075yea, what? >oh you don't want to be a woman with a beard? >this means you don't want to be a passing cis man with all biology
