my insurance covers laser and electrolysis and i want to use it to get rid of all the hair on my legs and butt and genitals but i feel so gross and ridiculous going into a spa run by and entirely staffed by cis women and walking in there as a non passing boymoder like how did those of you who got laser hair removal get over this feeling? i just want to feel pretty but i feel so weird and ashamed.
>>42385993laser and electrolysis technicians have more than likely dealt with a lot of trannies.they don't care. like at all.
>>42385993need picrel
>>42385993picrels expressions should be swapped.
>>42386104this is what im trying to drill into my head but i just feel so distinctly different from other trans people in a negative way. i started transitioning years ago when i was 20 but kind of just stopped and only recently have really started getting on top of things and getting my life together and im just stuck on all this shame and regret that ive been on hrt inconsistently for the past 4 years and all i got from it is looking like a teenage boy and not even coming out to anyone and i dont know how to approach or address this when talking to the technicians since they will know im a tranny since i have to bring letters and stuff for my insurance. whats worse is im in nyc so i feel ridiculous for even being so cowardly and far behind on all of this stuff. i feel like even pre hrt trannies are further along than me in their lives
>>42385993fucking felt i have an electrolysis appointment for my facial hair and upper body at the end of the month and i’m afraid of going because the derm place is also entirely staffed by women and i feel like a rapehon every time i pass through those doors
>>42385993They are hapily making you one of them. It's fun for them!
>>42385993bring one of your parents as support. that way nothing can be perceived as inappropriate.
>>42385993hijacking the thread but wtf do you do if HRT made your leg hair blonde but didn't actually make it thin out?electrolysis for an entire leg seems like it would take ages when face alone can be like 50-100 hours.
>>42386105Are you the top or the bottom?
>>42385993I heard of a guy getting electrolysis just so he would stop getting pimples so just go in there and do it I guess
>>42385993I think a paradigm shift sort of just happens at some point in your life, usually as the result of a health scare or something, where it kind of locks into your psyche that you that shame or not, worry or not, this is your life now. Whether or not you feel anxious over something changes nothing, you need to suffer through whatever it is to get the results you want and that's that. Besides the fact that you are unimportant and that most likely nothing will happen even the bad case scenario too shall pass.At some point in your life you have to just lock in and get shit done.
>>42386179this probably wont work for you but idk maybe try progesterone for a bit, for me i took it for a few months and i found it had the side effect of darkening my hair on my legs and it grew quicker. probably dht related.
>>42386179look up blonde laser hair removal. it exists but almost nowhere does it.
>>42386164i find it hard to imagine one of these poor women having fun or seeing it as "making me one of them" when my barely voiced trained hairy ass and balls is being zapped by them especially with how unfeminine i am.>>42386173>hey mom wanna come see my asshole and balls get laser hair removal so i feel less gross and masculine and more confident to go get fucked by some guy?
>>42386201I'll take a look. I hope it's not too expensive. Also just have a weird mix of blonde, dark, and red hair. >>42386200It did darken things initially but all the dark hairs went away after a while. I feel like I got a bunch of random vellus hairs all over the rest of my body though.
>>42386187Bottom. Unfortunately, a lateshit with disgusting awful loose skin that I'm gonna need surgically removed.
>>42386234the fuck is wrong with you lol. they sit in a chair facing away just browsing internet on their phone.
>>42386301sorry i just find the idea ridiculous and my parents arent particularly ecstatic about me transitioning they are at best tolerating it and avoid talking about it or acknowledging it so them accompanying me to something like this is baffling
>>42386328if they are barely tolerating your transition then i see why might seem a bit much. can also bring a trusted friend instead. also different culture maybe since its not as weird for me to be undressed.
>>42386104I realized this when the most doritobrick level2 autistic gigaagp receeded hairline gigahon was walking out of the clinic and the ladies were kindly listening to her over explain progesterone before saying she had to go to get picked up by her mom.even i would have been annoyed/grossed out by that person.i was there just sitting on the chairs in my boymoder hoodie watching this and realizing.... some cissoids DO NOT CARE AT ALL (or pretend not to enough that they effectively don't lol)the main saleswoman basically clocked me instantly and said "r u trans you can use ur real name it's okay here!" and was super unnecessarily supportive. got me to out myself and then aggressively/kindly gendered/named me correctly (more than myself)they are more allies than ur avg troon.probably bc they see trans women go from bricky hairy moids to smooth hairless passing/twinkhon women so often.And probably bc they see a bunch of cishon PCOS hairy werewomen.They probably see the edges of gender more than your average anybody and can be more supportive.
>>42385993Men can get laser hair removal too. It doesn't have to be a woman or tranny thing.
>>42386384basedalso v good post
>>42386387its normal to grip a man's cock to zap it and his balls smooth, but weird for a tranny to get that done since theyre stigmatized
>>42386419Almost all trannies can just dress like men and show up at a laser hair removal place and come across like they're regular men.There was even a study done on this where like 99% of mtfs don't ever go past an A cup meaning what little breast growth you get can be easily explained as the kind of gyno half of men get at some point in their lives without even being on hrt.
>>42386384this eased my anxiety a bit, thank you for posting this anon.>got me to out myself and then aggressively/kindly gendered/named me correctly (more than myself)i dont even think of myself with a name, i hope they just go with my legal name and keep it simple
>>42386187nta but what if I'm the top?
>>42386384this is honestly super true and realizing this one day made it so much easier to deal with spas and clinicsi remember mentioning how insecure i was about my feet to a laser tech and she was like "trust me i've seen everything and this isn't anything be worried about" and she insisted she's seen some horrible things from a ton of cis women so i felt way more comfortable after that
>>42386435yeah well i was retarded and didnt think to lie about my name, so.
>>42386455Then we both are tops
>>42386460>and she insisted she's seen some horrible things from a ton of cis womenAnd I can assure you she wasn't lying or hugboxing you.Trannies are shockingly disconnected from a lot of very common cisf experiences and bodies. And younger ones even more so as they're more online than ever.>t. older tranny nurse in Europe
>>42386464lol, do you have an appointment for Tiffany or Jennifer or something? It's over.
>>42386599It was a different time. i learned it all the hard way back then.
>>42385993yeah no, i did 10 laser sessions and decided that was enough>"just go hon! they are professionals! they've seen worse! they dont care that you're trans"they literally laughed at me and made fun of me for flinching in pain or were totally dismissive of me. they are actively disgusted by your existence as a non passer tranny make no mistake. i wont endure it again
>>42386615They might just laugh at everyone who flinches.Also though it baffles me why any of you would show up to these places identifying as a woman / dressed as a woman. Just wear jeans and a t-shirt and sign up under your legal male name (I assume no one would seriously get a legal name change before doing laser).
>>42386301Is this what is meant by a lynchian moment? You genuinely think bringing your mother along to have your balls lasered by a woman is a normal thing to do? I am honestly shocked like my jaw is hitting the floor imagining the totally shameless world you must live in.
>>42386629I did, I showed up in a hoodie and jeans, what do you think they think when a "man" shows up to a laser clinic to have his beard removed? Maybe if I acted like an obvious hypersocial gay dude but I dont.
>>42386630i had entire body done at once,no special focus like that. i have someone at all my appointments as im disabled.
>>42386664mentally disabled?
>>42386666mostly physically. nice quads.
>>42386635>what do you think they think when a "man" shows up to a laser clinic to have his beard removedProbably nothing because they don't care that much about the random customers they get each day. Regular guys can get laser hair removal so they don't have to shave anymore. Doesn't have to be a tranny thing.That Bryan Johnson anti-aging guy got laser hair removal and he identifies as male and has a girlfriend.
>>42386725bryan johnson is on the top of the social hierarchy, he is a literal millionaire and i am a poor ugly tranny man. you sound deeply deluded if you think im going to be treated the same as him.besides its all irrelevant, i already went and was treated badly/dismissively, I have other trans friends who were also treated badly, this is just reality. You are just a privileged twinkhon/boymoder/passoid and dont realise how it is.
>>42386748while i had my mommy with me so the people were nice and friendly and not weird.yet some people don't want other anons to know this special hack to being treated nicely.
>>42386772unfortunately my mother doesnt love me so thats not an option
>>42386860id just bring my bf if did it again. do you have a person like that to bring since that would work too
>>42386865no i have nobody
>>42386865This works for my gf but that's just because I have a very unnerving presence
>>42386899:c
>>42385993wait why are you still a boymoder in this case
>>42386147God i wish i looked like a teenage boy instead of a middle-aged slavic ogre ma.T. 20 year old pretrooner with incredible sensitivity to testosterone(which is also why i'm 5'5 bc your growth plates fuse much faster.)Sorry to hijack thread but i'm insanely miserable, i don't believe e will help me and i'm earnestly considering suicide as an alternative(not in a mental way more like a euthanasia.)
>>42386384>go to laser>get judged by some fucking passoidI'll stay home thanks
