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Is there any point in transitioning if nobody will ever view you as a woman? I mean I have semi passing potential, I even maybe have potential to pass as an unattractive woman. But nowadays everybody is focused on transvestigating every person they see so that likely won’t last long. And society hates trannies so fucking much, 50% of human kind wants to stone us to death and 49% view troons as confused men, 1% actually view us as women. I don’t want to be viewd as a confused man, I’d only transition because I want to BE a woman in body, mind and soul, which involves being viewed as such by others. Is it really worth it? Isn’t it better to just keep repping until it gets too unbearable then rope.
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>>42386717
>I even maybe have potential to pass as an unattractive woman
That was enough for me to start. Now I pass as an unattractive woman. Mayybe a 6 (without make-up and naked).
Calling me he/sir would get you laughed out of the room. Nobody would believe that (granted, it helps that my ribcage is within 5% of the female median and I'm not tall).
I will never be a supermodel but I'm woman enough.

>Is it really worth it?
It was totally worth it for me. No longer lonely, found love and found desire to live and work.

>Isn’t it better to just keep repping until it gets too unbearable then rope
Terrible idea. But then again, I like and want to live.
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>>42386717
Start by viewing yourself as a woman and the rest will come :)
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I dont pass and its tough but im happy.

It all depends on where you live. Somewhere safe, with kind people? Do it. Somewhere hostile and violent, also do it, but understand it wont be easy. You cant allow other people to define how you live, you'll regret it once you hit 50
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>>42386752
I kinda already do, I certainly don’t view myself as a man, I feel like I’m larping every time I need to write down “male” as my gender. Every time somebody overtly points out my gender I’m almost taken out of the moment. But I’m also really disgusting and moidlike in my personality, I have very low empathy for anybody else and I feel like shit about it, I lock in all my emotions and am genuinely afraid to express them to anybody, I think I might be a pathological liar, I have a crazy sex drive and I hate it and I’m disgusted by it. Nobody could really ever view someone like me as a woman, I’m just a moid.
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>>42386804
>I have very low empathy for anybody else
Most fembrained repper. Take your pills nona.
It is a lie that women are the empathetic gender.
Heck, my coldness and lack of empathy went from being viewed as weird and creepy to something widely appreciated as I passed better.

>t. >>42386745
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>>42386826
Its true, the majority of people are either psycopaths or sociopaths, very few people have empathy or are kind.

>>42386804
Passing is nothing to do with words ot thoughts, and everything to do with appearance. You pass and suddenly being weird and asocial is quirky. Have a high sex drive, but pass? You're just a nymphomaniac now and society says its cool, empowering even.

Dont pass but be thoughtful, kind and helpful to others? Doesnt matter, someone will try to kill you and normies will cheer. Its why we cant have nice things. People dont want nice things, people like living in squalor and seeing violence
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>>42386881
>the majority of people are either psycopaths or sociopaths
No. Just the majority of cisfs.
I had no idea pre-transition just how common this is. The black pill is much more valid than I'd ever dare to admit under my real identity.
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>>42386929
Disagree. I worked in upper management across many industries. Male or female is irrelevant. These are some of the most vicious people around, and they control society.

I believe the difference in psycopathy between men and women is individual competence and acknowledgement by society. A psycopathic woman isnt punished in anyway, infact it's rewarded and there are entire institutional systems set up to encourage such behaviour. But that doesnt mean male psycopathy isnt also destructive, its just more often held to account.
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>>42386717
making steps to transition even if you know you wont make it is better than dry repping in many ways, as a repper i was totally dead inside. there is a peace in knowing you tried everything you could
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>>42387029
^^this
Also, sometimes you find out you were wrong.
I thought I "knew" I wont make it. Now I'm browsing skirts lol.

>t. malefailed so hard that it's comical
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>>42386990
>upper management
I certainly won't dispute that. I will just argue that it's a feature (?!) of the profession itself. To get there you have to be vicious.
I was referring more to normie stuff among normie people. Women's viciousness is straight up praised while men's kindness is mocked or taken for granted.
Still very glad I transitioned, but I expected to have other kinds of philosophical questions if I ever make it. Oh well.
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>>42387086
>Women's viciousness is straight up praised while men's kindness is mocked or taken for granted.

Its true. I speak to my hairdresser and skin clincian, they both say every single one of their clients hates their husband or boyfriend. Its really insane how miserable everyone is. Hating your partner is normal for most people.

I can see why men, as well as women, become disillusioned and resentful, it becomes a cycle. People carry and project their pain from previous experiences. It requires self reflection and internal growth to break the cycle, these things are unknown concepts to most people. Im grateful i found a man who is extraordinarily kind and thoughtful to me. And i let him know how valued he is.

Also upper management is horrible, it isnt worth it. Make money then look after animals or sit on a beach, dont get sucked into the grind.



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