>self hate
>meme about being trans is a choice
>no answer for dysohoria
>depression
>soliciting anonymous hate comments instead of professional advice
>"i must accept this miserable horrible truth but I can't"
>completely misunderstands what detransition is.
>false flag political meme bait highly likely to be a chud larp
>"i pass hvae had SRS and a boyfriend but any day now I'm gonna detransition, shave my head get hacked on T break uo with the only person who loves me and get penile reconstruction surgery. I just need to talk about it a bit more on 4chan to figure things out first!"

Shit thread op get help if you're real, get better material if you'rea gay political larper.

>>42387290
I'm sorry this came off as chud bait. This thread my genuine situation, and I really don't know what to do about it.
Well, I do know that I should "just accept it and get on with life", but I struggle to do so. Probably because I'm just avoiding the consequences of my own actions and actually being responsible as I always do

>>42387241
lmfaooo absolute cope

ive had the same thought, then i see what i look like masculine and i feel like total garbage

you dont want to be a man you want to be a twink so you can escape the brutality of masculinziation without the commitment and risk of being trans

theres no escape

>>42387319

If you don't want to detranistion you shouldn't detransition.

You dont detransition because "i hate myself" "the TERFS were right!" "I'm a fraud, i'm malebrained"

These are negative brianworms and the narrative is just about punishing yourself for being you.

Detransition if you actually want to be a hairy bald man with a round abdomen who smells like a man. If that is appealing to you, if you amwant a big hard cock and big hairy balls, then detransition.

If you hate your self for "wanting to be a woman" then don't detransition

>>42387365
I want to detransition because I feel like I'm ruining my life by transitioning. I'm not only chasing something unachievable, but also ultimately undesirable.
Being a man feels right and desirable, because I just am one, and claiming otherwise would be a lie. That doesn't mean that I actively like being a man though, but that's ultimately irrelevant.

>>42387241
So you couldn't accept who you were, so now that you've realized this you can't accept who you are. And your solution is to change yourself again, because... third time is the charm?? If you only acknowledge the symptoms and never address the root you'll be doing this until you're dead.

>>42387241
do you in fact actually want to be a man? in which case just detrans and you're fine lol. it sounds like you're *still* having an identity crisis, however - why does it matter if you're "a man" or "a woman" - most ppl throughout history going through identity crises often do follow through with external changes... but, i mean, internally, few people begin thoughts about their deepest feelings of identity with "as a man" or "as a woman" because most of these feelings are sociological, anyway.

if you want to discover yourself maybe stop caring about presentation

>>42387429
If I knew what the root of my issues is, then it would've been much easier to address. I've been tirelessly trying to figure it out, but never manged to do so

I'm pre-trans but i feel lowkirkuently the same way.
In that.
>Not dysorphic whatsoever
>The thought of not being trans makes me rly sad doe
>100% male thinking patterns, feelings, soul etc.
Honestly probably just bc i'm a sub5 incel is why i even feel that way to begin with but it still sucks.
OP is probably future me.if.i ever go through with this.

>>42387438
>do you in fact actually want to be a man?
I think I genuinely do, but I also feel pretty bad that I do. It's kinda like having to reject a gourmet meal because you're allergic to it.
>it sounds like you're *still* having an identity crisis
Definitely am, since I'm still struggling to accept that I'm basically just cis. All of this has nothing to do with presentation in my mind, since presentation follows identity. There's no point in focusing on presentation without having a sense of identity, which is what I lack

>>42387478
How would you feel like if you were an attractive guy? Would you still feel sad at the thought of not being trans?

>>42387424
yeah its like being a man is good because its the path of least resistance, its the life i have even if i dont want it. if i keep trying to transition i will become a pariah but i keep thinking "what if i can actually make it"

>>42387478
yeah i am also sub5 incel, i look really weird. i think i latched onto this because i want to transform into someone else and i cant really do it.

>>42387555
If i were BORN an attractive guy my life would be perfect and i never would've dwelled on any of that. If i transformed into an attractive guy i would make strides to be more social but i'd forever despise those who are now kind to me bc i'd be aware of the blackpill and the fact that they only respect and see me as a human because of a few milimeters of bone in my jaw.


If i could look any kind of way i would love to be an andro twink and then gracefully age into a soft manfaggot but i don't have the genetics for it.
I would ngl kill/go into debt/walk over hot coals(literally) to get that though.

>>42387498
i mean, asking from a spiritual standpoint or even a cold psychological standpoint - what meaningful part of identity is "cis?" do you think before doing something if it is a 'cis' action - or even a 'male' or 'female' action?

you do not need to conceive of yourself in a gendered sense to develop your identity - and your deeper, intrinsic sense of self that exists before these thoughts and resides within everyone began informing you of qualities of 'self' before you even understood language or boundaries (real or imagined). transitioning is only going to effect the superficial, which may help you feel people can more accurately interpret aspects of your identity but isn't going to change who you are.

no matter what you are seen "as", nobody ever truly sees the depth of another person's identity, and it is likewise an eternally rewarding lacuna even to oneself. try to detox yourself of pre-conceived notions of "male" or "female" and just look and feel how you want to look and feel.

if you don't know what you want in that regard and feel it is always escaping you - try your best to love something and/or someone outside of yourself as unconditionally and with as little assumption as possible. as you love others, you love yourself - because you require 'you' to come to an evaluation in the first place. use what you learn from those feelings and the way you act while feeling them to help find your truth.

be open to experiences and conversation and try to interpret and speak without a filter. unmasking your intuition and simply being who you are is a process of understanding that fulfills itself by traveling - not being stationary. you're not a destination, you're a process.

>>42387628
This is genuinely really inspiring advice in a way. Especially the reminder that I'm a process rather than a destination, and that I should love others.
Unfortunately though, it still doesn't make being myself any less of a burden. I know it can't, and that it's up to me to do so, but I really feel like I've hit a dead end with trying to figure out how I could make my own existence tolerable for myself.

>>42387628
all i know is i dont want to look like a man, but the idea of being a woman is stupid, i just feel like an alien or a non entity. i feel embarassed around people that have a gender, like im supposed to be performing one as well and i cant do it.

>>42387241
Are you the fake dysphoria anon?

>>42388194
Yea, pretty sure I am who you're thinking of

>>42388001
The curse of the truenbie