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trans women are women, right?

Because everyone is acting like that's what we're supposed to be doing here, but it goes too far.
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>>42398407
I believe it.
>it goes too far
get over it spongebob
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>>42398407
trans is an adjective. not a noun.
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>>42398407
Some are.

Some aren't.
Case by case.
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>wahh wahh flesh type A can't ever be flesh type B!!!!!
who fucking cares
I crave the strength and certainty of steel
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>>42398407
Uhhh
MAH BOYfriend
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>>42398407
Well yeah they're women. You think men would look and act like that?
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>>42398452
You mean like, tall woman, fat woman, trans woman?

Eh... again, I'd have to put that in the "goes too far" category. I see what you're doing, but it lands flat. Like, that's a word game. Like a seahorse is a horse or something.
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>>42398653
I think trans women would look and act like that. Not men, not women, but trans women. Does that make sense?
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>>42398407
No one thinks that
but we tell them we do so we can fuck them
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>>42398452
And it gets welded to "woman" to make a new noun:
transwoman
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>>42398677
Nah they're still women
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>>42400170
They are trans women.

We treat all this like we have two boxes, man and woman, and when someone "transitions" we move them from one box to the other box, but that's not what happens at all!

In reality, you get moved into a NEW box, the trans box. I think we should recognize this fact, fighting against it is futile and causes unnecessary friction in society.
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>>42398407
well... I mean they are women. just not females. male women. atleast the ones who pass. masculine women cis or trans will unfortunately be looked at with suspicion. idk where the studs are supposed to go. I just wish we had mixed use bathrooms. and a separate one for families.
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>>42398662
>I see what you're doing, but it lands flat. Like, that's a word game. Like a seahorse is a horse or something.

dense? a sea horse is a horse, a seahorse isn't :v
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>>42400789
I can kind of get that, but lumping them in with FEMALE women is... not accurate. Kind of a defining feature of "woman" is not being male, after all. Actually it's the only fixed point in the concept when you think about it... it all hinges on sex. Idk, I think let people play with their phenotypes but treat it for what it is; fashion.
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>>42400943
>it all hinges on sex. Idk, I think let people play with their phenotypes but treat it for what it is; fashion.
nta hmm yes the fashion in phenotypes not the biological reality or so, trans women are female aligned and male neutralised, having them not lumped with women is nonsensical. but what am i talking about you're probably just baiting
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>>42401426
Yeah, fashion. Gender as performance and all that. There isn't a biological reality to transgenderism, you know that right?
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>>42398407
spongebob wouldnt say that
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all trans women are male
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if it quacks like a duck
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>>42401743
trans women act and look like men, they wouldn't have to gang up to pressure you to call them female if they looked and acted the part
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>>42398407
I don’t actually believe they’re women. I’ll treat them as much and if they pass, a little cog in my brain might go “well, they’re basically and socially a woman, but teeeeeechnicallyyyyy they’re male”.

If they pass anyway, I’d treat them as a girl and refer to them as such anyway. I can’t see them as totally female, but like 80%
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>>42398407
I do believe it and so does my boyfriend. A lot of people believe it in fact. Because it’s true :)
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>>42402338
you and your boyfriend want to believe it because if it weren't true, it would mean you are both gay men, and you find that possibility repulsive because of life-long brainwashing by women that men dating men as men is wrong and harmful to society.

>>42402321
The idea that some men look identical to women is ridiculous and false. There are no passing trans women. There are men who look so attractive to you in female clothing that you are willing to overlook their male traits. That's it.
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>>42402357
>youre a honophobic gay man! women made you this way!
you’ve been obsessively posting this nonsense for so long it’s actually insane how unemployed and delusional you are. you absolutely need your head bashed in with a rock
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>>42401701
spongebob is a repper he would say that



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