AI told me even with trillions of years and all the resources of our entire galaxy it would never be possible either to flip someone's sex at the cellular level or to do a successful human brain transplant.
it's actually really easy to flip your sex at the cellular level
>>42405666No, it's impossible for humans even with all the time the species has left in the universe.You're probably thinking of something other than genuine full cellular sex change which would entail leaving someone who was originally male as completely indistinguishable from a woman both visually and functionally e.g. would menstruate and be capable of giving birth.
>>42405685actually sex hormones change your sex at the cellular levelthe problem is scaling up. Cells and tissues change easily, but the shape and function of a whole organ is much more static and slow to change, and many organs can only minimally change after development
>>42405695Changing some cells as a consequence of exogenous hormones is completely different from flipping your sex at the cellular level. The two are opposite approaches since the latter would result in your body producing female hormone levels while the latter would rely on taking hormones to try to get some minimal superficial changes.
>>42405709they were working pedantically with what you said. you didnt say flip chromosomes you just said cells generally, which hormones do change.
>AI told me>I asked grok>chatgpt saysOK well I sat in solemn prayer and discerned that a life lived earnestly pursuing your desire is a better life than fretting about how far away you are.
>>42405709what do you think the difference is where the hormones come from?
>>42405729I think even pedantically flipping someone's sex at the cellular level is completely different from using hormones to alter some particular cells.Altering some particular cells doesn't mean your sex itself has changed.
>>42405526Oh yeah and why can't you?
>>42405742The difference isn't where the hormones come from.It's that the hormones are being produced that way at all by your body as a result of your sex actually being changed in a fundamental way.Hormones are far from the only factor. On its own dosing estradiol is not going to change much with a male adult. Most of a successful mtf transition has nothing to do with estradiol since it doesn't really change the face, doesn't remove beard shadow, and only gets A cup or below in terms of breast growth for something like 95% of mtfs. It doesn't change voice and doesn't change bone structure and doesn't remove penis and testicles nor add in vagina, ovaries, and a uterus.
>>42405764It changed it all for me
>>42405745changing sex chromosomes after birth would have basically the same effect as exogenous hormones working on particular cells though
>>42405764but it still changes sex at the cellular levelthat has nothing to do with facial hair. Many cis women have facial hair and can have beard shadow if they have problems like pcosand stuff like bone structure isn't cellular at all, you could magically change all the chromosomes in a bone and the overall shape would be the same
>>42405756>Why?>Because:>Adult tissues are locked into developmental programs>Body-wide coordination is required>The nervous system cannot be safely re-architected>Embryonic patterning genes cause cancer when reactivated>The real bottleneck: body coordination>The adult body is not modular like LEGO.>To radically change form, you’d need to coordinate:>Nervous system>Vasculature>Immune system>Hormonal signaling>Structural load-bearing>Embryos can do this because:>Everything grows together>Patterning genes run once>Adults cannot safely re-run embryonic development.
>>42405781Very few women have full blown 5'oclock shadows. All of the few who do to my knowledge are ftm detransers. Some facial hair from pcos is different from looking like Jon Hamm. I can't think of even one famous actress who has a 5'oclock shadow. You have Frida Kahlo who was famous for the mustache, but even she didn't have anything close to a man's beard shadow.
>>42405800>I can't think of even one famous actress who has a 5'oclock shadowyeah it's not conventionally attractivehow much beard shadow do you need to switch from cellularly female to cellularly male?
>>42405809We wouldn't really have any beard shadow if either of us could be cellularly female.That's just one detail of many. There are a bunch of individual workarounds like getting laser hair removal for that problem or voice training for the way estradiol will never change one's voice as an adult in the slightest.But really you have to rely on all sorts of tricks like that exactly because genuine full blown sex change isn't available.Kind of strange it isn't more of a possible future innovation, but it's apparently a hard impossibility even for superhuman AI with all the time and resources in the world.
>>42405784Oh that's a bunch of bs, I can't even read it
>>42405823I think you just don't know what being cellularly female means
>>42405842Okay, who cares, take care. I bet you have the girls in my high school class don't know it either.
>>42405842It's pretty simple to define. Being indistinguishable visually and functionally from a regular healthy fertile XX chromosome woman who menstruates and can give birth.Completely different from being a guy who takes estradiol. We'd be talking regular woman vs. regular man with prostate cancer taking the old first line treatment for it.
>>42405871>Being indistinguishable visually and functionallyI think that's what being visibly female iscellularly female just means your cells are female. Not your whole appearance
>>42405892are the e coli that make up a woman's body male or female, and what about for a man's body
>>42405892The way AI interpreted it which is also the way I interpret it is changing someone's sex from the ground up so every individual cell is like how every cell would be if an X sperm won the race when you were born instead of a Y sperm.
>>42405526>>42405685>>42405709>>42405764>>42405781>>42405892>>42405908None of this really matters because if you know you're a girl and you've been a girl since you are a small child, even socialize the same as any other girls, you're just a girl.It doesn't matter what your chromosome is. No one can see it, so just be a girl
>>42405986I'm not a girl. I'm a guy with a fetish for becoming a girl. I've never behaved like a girl or thought of myself as one. I just think girls are arousing and it would be even more arousing to be one while masturbating to other girls if it weren't a scifi impossibility.
>>42406055Well, I'm a girl. I liked sexy boys in high school, tough type guys.
