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Can someone post a result of someone that actually legitimately passes. My standard is very high. Basically have to pass completely in every was a someone of the opposite sex. From the evidence that's readily available, no trans person that went through puberty passes completely. There's always something. But apparently there's loads of people that pass. It's just that nobody ever posts a real example
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>>42405539
You're mom
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>>42405539
I know I pass. I didn't go through a male puberty
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>>42405539
u could post average cis women in here and people would call them a hon op
answering because cat and mtg
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>>42405539
more helpfully post cis women alongside them that pass less as cis women
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>>42405553
I think OP is being dishonest and would fail a test for him to identify trannies vs. women out of 10 or 20 random pictures.
It's a lot easier to sit there and point out why pics you know are trannies in advance are in fact trannies vs. following the scientific method and doing a proper controlled experiment to prove whether or not you can actually tell the difference consistently.
That said though, Kim Petras also didn't go through male puberty and does not look like a woman.
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>>42405572
Post sane, then go nuts?
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>>42405582
I'm guessing you aren't skullpilled.
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>>42405539
Passing isn't a binary. It's measured more in time.
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>>42405572
Well it's different in person. Sure maybe I've seen trans women that passed and never knew they were trans, but I haven't seen an example
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>>42405558
Yes I know, but I just want to know if it's possible to pass if you went through puberty. It's always the people that pass, I find out oh theh transitioned at 12, which isn't really the same thing
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>>42405647
Would you bet all the money you have that you could look at 50 total in person women and/or trannies mixed together and correctly identify every one as either a tranny or a woman with no mistakes?
I think everyone would fail at that if the person conducting that experiment found women with more male typical heights or frames and mixed them in with some of the most female looking trannies.
I remember The Maury Show had smaller scale contests like that and some would be obvious but then one of them would be surprisingly petite due to being Asian and would throw everyone off.
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>>42405667
it's complex, say you are ftm and are already starting out as a pretty manly woman- think the fat hairy bull dykes you see once in a while. for someone like that, "passing" is a pretty small step once they get on hormones even if they have gone through puberty. vice versa for mtf.
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>>42405669
Well I guess the difference is the level of effort required and performance, to be only end up being clocky and difficult to tell vs cis women have to try and be androgynous. And it's what, 1% or probably less of cis women that could be a cishon. I guess I dont think that's really the standard I havr. I think the standard is nobody can tell whatsoever, and you obviously pass and it's impossible to tell
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>>42405714
>impossible to tell
almost always some schizo or other troon will notice something
size of hands, shoulders, insane moon rune skull size reading, etc
point being to have goals and reach them, and don't worry about your knees being too pointy or ears too sharp
and also you will always be your own worst critic, so trust people who actually care about you if they tell you that you look nice
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>>42405786
im happy for people that can be confidently themselves. but for me its simply not even worth entertaining without completely passing to everyone
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>>42405667
If you want to pass for a girl you have to go through the changes when a girl goes to the changes.
>>42405708
It's really much worse for male to female because males masculize much more than women feminisze, if you really look at it properly. Women basically look like children
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>>42405812
do you live life for yourself or other people?
since you are making this thread and asking these questions i imagine you are already suffering with dysmorphia
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that's not how passing really works, OP. People might have "tells" but in a lot of cases, randomly selected cis people might have the exact same features. I remember thinking several times that a trans person I knew IRL had a certain feature due to being trans, then seeing their same-gender cis family member and realizing that that's just a thing in their family (ex: trans sister and cis sister with the same face shape).

unless you're in an environment with a bunch of paranoid ultra-conservatives or TERFs, you don't have to be perfect. because normal people don't screen that hard.
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>>42405539
Nobody who truly passes and is stealth will post their face here
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>>42406247
I totally live as a natural born genetic woman even though I transition
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>>42405572
yeah, theres too many cishons that the standards for passing aren't quite so high if you know how to carry yourself as if you've been doing it since birth
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>>42405597
Perspective is a thing. She's standing in front of sam hyde there.
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>>42405597
Show hunter next to hideo kojima.
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>>42406253
I've been doing it all my life
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>>42406262
I'm not a man never was one. I transitioned when I was a boy. I was a girl and then I became a woman
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>>42406262

I think this post is AI generated
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passing is an attainable truth
trans women often pass just fine in everyday life, at the store, walking in the park, they exist

trans women are women
female women
every day before transitioning was a scam, the goal is to be comfortable in your body
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>>42406267
either that or unintelligible schizo
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>>42406267
Plenty including OP are AI bots meant to farm ragebait

Also fuck you OP. I pass, but you’ll never get to see because there’s no point in dignifying your willful ignorance and bad faith engagement with an actual response.
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>>42405539
she passes pretty well i think
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>>42406353
lumberjack waifu
i kneel



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