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Daily reminder to transfem boymoders that Christ loves you and sees you as a beautiful girl worthy of his love and mercy!
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>>42407668
AIslop image but I agree with the sentiment.
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did any of you become more religious and believing in christ after you started transition
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>>42407683
I did as He blessed my true name and accepted me as a woman.
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>>42407668
Daily reminder that you worship a dead kike on a stick. Fag.
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>>42407683
I've considered going back to church but I don't feel worthy as some kind of gross man thing who can't even accept being a woman.
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>>42407683
ive noticed alot of devout religious trauma trannies popping up recently
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>>42407711
blessed how?
its funny. im a united protestant. I really do feel empowered by works and prayer.

my mum, roman catholic, wants me to go with her to her church tho, and i can just disregard their thoughts on the eucharist.
Her church is the one i grew up in with families from my elementary school. So me being there would cause issues, in violation of pope francis' decree.
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He doesn't btw.
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>>42407762
>>42407773
i'm not gonna try convert yall but i think individualised sects - Progressive Protestantism, Helleno-Paganism, and Norse-Paganism do work really well for trannies.

Its not about a repressive club of 50 year old karens, or a priest telling you you're sin.
It's about mindfullness and reflection with god about what you've done well, what you need the strength and will to do, and how you can help other people better.
It's not about heaven or hell. It's about communicating with the world.

Pagan Polythiests can attune themselves to certain 'epithets' of god but the process of prayer and mindfullness remains.

I see femininity and transition as a holy and sacred act thats in concert with gods wishes for me.
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>>42407798
I grew up in a deeply religious environment that was the reason I repped for so long (seriously I cried and prayed to not be gay when I was 12). Literally the reason I'm a lateshit.

So I'm afraid of it making me detransition again because I really do just feel like a boy a lot of the times.
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>>42407774
He told me that He accepts me and called me by my name and asked me when I would accept Him.

I think it's fine to attend the eucharist even if a man who thinks he's very special says otherwise.
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>>42407809
maybe im the opposite.
I prayed originally to god to just become a girl when i was a kid. thought actioning by crossdressing, repenting and praying would help
but when i was 17 i prayed to Him to give me the strength and courage to come out, to give me the compassion to others, and the will to push through, get on hrt, learn makeup, and pass.
And i did.

Seriously. don't religion to 'god fully transition me' or to 'allow me to repress'; just "allow me the strength to become the girl i need to be, so that i can help others and fufill Your word"
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>>42407859
Yeah I recognize that I'm the inverse a lot of trannies who grew up religious. I didn't want to be gay. I didn't want to be weird and effeminate. I wanted to be a dude even though I had the most fun when I was kind of weird and effeminate and always felt drawn to it.
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>>42407859
Amen.
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>>42407933
And by the time I had become less religious I was already incredibly moided. Puberty hit me hard. Twink death at like 15.
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Daily reminder to praise the man, man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIY3ea7DHGs
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>>42407668
Christcucks are such faggots
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The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing.
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daily reminder to muslim hijabi boymoders that allah loves you
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Everytime an LGBT person falls victim to religion, Vishnu sheds a tear
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>>42407683
me
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>>42408501
Allah just means God in Arabic. Us and Muslims both worship the Highest.
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>>42407711
he didn't do shit, tranny. You did it yourself. There's a part of your brain that's responsible for your self love and happiness and you just credit it to ancient jews
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>>42407823
>He told me that He accepts me and called me by my name
deliriant. You told that to yourself and you still feel like giving credit to the same cult you were raised into
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>>42408549 >>42408574
My Lord is inside me and He will always be inside me and beside me.
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>>42408579
If it helps you, don't feel bad religious nona, unless it leads you to hurt others.
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>>42407859
>i prayed to Him to give me the strength and courage to affirm my sin
Religious people are so delusional that your little head canon of "god actually helped me to live against biblical verses" is low key fitting
You're not fulfilling anyone's words but your own. You leaving LGBT behind and marrying a woman or becoming an ascetic priest, that would be the fulfilment the bible talks about.
You're not really helping others, you're entirely obsessed with yourself, your flesh and your terrain life and you cope by inverting and twisting religion to fit your bias.
Is that what every other religious person does? Yes. Does it make any less stupid? No.
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>>42408579
There's a part of your mind that you call "the lord" and that's deeply related to your religious upbringing (and religious trauma)
But regardless of what you call "the lord", the book you worship goes in direct contradiction with your lifestyle and most religious sects would show you the door.
You cope, girl. You cope hard.
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>>42407683
transition cured me of faith
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>>42408618
They're preaching christianity in a board where the vast majority of us have been traumatized and brutalized by that religion. They should feel bad. Take this nonsense to the church, why won't she?
Oh that's right, church doesn't want her.
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>>42407683
The process of coming out and accepting myself was the same process of deconverting and leaving religion behind.
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>>42408655
Some people find peace in it, and I can promise you I've been brutalized by religion in very particular ways (religious school for most of my childhood).

I do also recognize that some trannies find legitimacy in the church, and I understand the appeal. The first tranny I ever met was deeply, deeply religious and I was confused as to how she could be religious and a tranny when I had felt so brutalized by it.
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>>42408618
Thank you.

>>42408646
Matthew 19:12. Christ has said nothing against my existence as a transsexual woman. My whole extended family supports me being who I am despite them being from a conservative Christian sect.

>>42408655
I belong to the invisible church of true believers.
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>>42407668
Jehovah is a god of lies and a demiurge, Christianity is a curse the jews used to destroy Rome. Hail Satan.
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>>42408687
>I've been brutalized by religion
They were too, but they're literally caught up in an abusive relationship, literally Stockholm syndrome.
You know that some slaves loved their masters deeply, right?
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>>42408714
Because the real church would show you how delusional you are.
You're not a true believer, you're a victim of abuse
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>>42408731
Babylon must fall.

>>42408737
I'm a woman so use the female pronouns for me.

>You know that some slaves loved their masters deeply, right?
I'm Christ's loving slave? Waow...

>>42408749
The invisible church is the real church. Also the worldly church I belonged to in my childhood is fine with transsexual members.
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>>42408714
Jehovah told Adam and Eve that the fruit of wisdom would kill them, he lied.
Lucifer told them that Jehovah was trying to keep them from the fruit to keep them from becoming Gods, this was the truth.

>N-nuh uh! Humans were immortal in the garden
Then why are the first patriarchs all listed as having lived for around 1000 years until Jehovah cut their lifespan down to 100 years because "Im sick of dealing with them"?

Theres no evidence to support this literally medieval cope, spare me of it. The deity you worship is a liar and a tyrant.
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>>42408714
The same christ that said you should leave your father's house to marry a woman?
He's praising eunuchs who "serve god" in celibacy. You do neither of those. He would have called your feminization and your preoccupation with your outward appearance a sin. In fact there's nothing about your life that he would have supported.
>Fuck all other LGBT people, this biblical verse can be loosely interpreted to my benefit so I'll run with it
You are a despicable person who comes to LGBT spaces to vomit your religious indoctrination because real religious people wouldn't want you near them. Get lost
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>>42408775
>Babylon must fall
Why do you support stagnating humans and support the Demiurge that constantly tried to torture you? Bablyon was a testament of human power, Jehovah wants us weak, helpless, and dependent like a abusive husband. Why would you ever celebrate a deity that cursed us with being unable to understand eachother for the explicit reason of dis-empowering us? Your deity is a monster unworthy of reverence, and incapable of love.
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>>42408737
Some people need that structure, and there are affirming churches out there.
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>>42408775
You're a slave alright, but not to a dead kike. You're a slave to your religious upbringing like a victim of an abusive relationship.
You come to preach your fake faith here because the people who share your beliefs they don't want you anywhere near a church.
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>>42407668
>slop poster spreading its putrid shit
your god is dead and your faith is death, cultist
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>>42408811
Literally Stockholm syndrome. He was raised into this faith and nostalgia and indoctrination did the rest. It's not his choice. It was never his choice. He is cursed
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>>42408815
It's like saying some slaves needed whipping.
Some people think they need that just like a person caught up in an abusive relationship keeps coming back to the abuser.
Accepting churches are A needle in the haystack. The reason why he comes here to preach is precisely because he can't find any of these "accepting loving churches" nearby.
He must come to a place where most people have seen the evil and darkness of his faith, and he comes here to salt our wounds.
I'll let him know his faith is never welcome here
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>>42408835
I received a Catholic baptism and have to struggle with being soulbound to Jehovah everyday, I still have to know the truth and love Lucifer despite being spiritually crippled as a child. There is no excuse for people who were raised in fake cult tier denominations and havent even gone through the actual rituals of Jehovah. Its sheer personal weakness,
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>>42408775
I'll never affirm the delusions of christians, your faith is fake like your gender. Get lost
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I preach universal love and salvation for all. Hate me all you want, I do not mind. I am a bride of Christ.
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i've been on this website for over 15 years and i still cannot understand why there's so many deeply religious people on here. it's like how there's so many christy furries, it makes no sense to me. do you think jesus would approve of you spanking your girlhog to loli porn
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>>42408861
It's no excuse to bully and berate her. Hurting her isn't going to help.

>>42408884
I'm proud and somewhat envious of you nona.
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>>42408865
It's definitely weakness. Can we blame the weak for being weak, though?
I blame him for bringing his bullshit religion here knowing fully well what it entails.
He could do it over any other board, and you know why he doesn't?
Because in any other place, the moment he reveals he is a tranny christian, people will laugh at him, justifiably, and show him the door.
So instead he seeks the refuge and company of the reprobates, the people who were literally tortured by his faith, the only people who would embrace him, and be acts like a fucking Trojan horse bringing the evil of religion to these safe colourful halls. He deserves ridicule.
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>>42408905
He is literally bullying us by bringing his bullshit faith here of all places. He needs to be ridiculed for being a christian just like christians will ridicule him for being a tranny. He must know that there's no safe space here for his death cult
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>>42408922
She's trying her best to be kind. She's a little weird with it, yes, but meeting her with vitriol is neither helping you nor her nor anyone else.
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>>42408884
You preach delusions and you completely twist the book you supposedly worship to fit your sinful and terrain desire of looking like a girl, unbefitting of everything that christ taught you. You are a man and your fake ass faith doesn't belong here. Go preach at church and see how well received you are there, you freak
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>>42408621
>You leaving LGBT behind and marrying a woman or becoming an ascetic priest, that would be the fulfilment the bible talks about.
Not neccesarily. Also fucking New Testament is the main part that matters. And Proverbs.
>Helping others
I literally work with and direct humanitarian aid. I do as jesus and Samuel asked us to do. I am a samaritan.
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>>42408666
cool. it brought me back to it. im not attempting to convert anyone. I'm just saying that it helped me.
>>42408655
obviously people have trauma. obviously the church and peoples claims of the church have been painful. nobodys prostelatizing you, just sharing our own experiences.
>>42408861
united. protestantism. Personal, not organised religion.
>>42408906
this is a singular thread anon. you are free to avoid our experiences. i don't really totally agree with the girl christbride over there. I just find comfort in prayer. You are free to ignore us.
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>>42408934
>I'm just saying that it helped me
Yet you are arguing with every single person in the thread. I didn't even reply to you. Fuck off.
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>>42408931
Nigga he is bringing christianity to an LGBT board where most of us were literally traumatized by that religion, and acting smug about it.
This isn't kindness. It's literally conceit, disdain and indifference to our struggle.
The fucking irony of it all is that he comes here to be a christian because anywhere else where christians conglomerate, he won't be accepted.
I'll treat him like his crew treat lgbt people
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One last thing.
Girlies you can also do this with Pagan Belief.
Go pray to Aphrodite Pandemos or to Freya or whatever if you want, if that helps.
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>>42408950
I can promise you that I have more religious trauma than 99% of trannies, and I don't think it's fair or just to treat her the way you are.
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>>42408947
the 'im just saying it helped me' was to two seperate (yous)?
yes im replying to others in a public thread? I'm confused what you want from me, im offering my experience in a public forum.
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>>42408971
eat shit christcuck
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>>42408934
Jesus literally told you to marry a woman and the new testament contains most of the homophobic bible verses. You're still a man in god's eyes and a sinner who have twisted faith to affirm your sinful ways, there's no greater blasphemy than what you're doing, but you're also delusional.
>I help others
When you catch brakes from posting anime girls on 4chan and being a zealot in the LGBT board?
You don't help anyone, you delusional freak of a man. You only help yourself and your own ego. Take your faith where it belongs, to the gutter .oh wait, not even in the gutter they will accept a freak tranny like you. Go die in a ditch like your god intended, maybe you'll get to suck Satan's cock in hell you stupid man.
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>>42408962
It's 1% of the treatment he would receive in church, which is precisely why he chooses to be a tranny christian zealot in the LGBT board as opposed to any other board filled with people who share his faith.
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>>42408993
I've been treated more nicely by the goddamn Mormons than you are to her. It's vile.
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>>42408905
Thank you. It's not easy being in my position.

>>42408933
I don't worship the bible. I worship the Highest through worshipping Christ. Is it sinful to take care of one's health or to clean oneself when one is dirty? Gender dysphoria is a medical condition. It is no more sinful to treat it than to treat a rash or a chronic pain condition. Quite the opposite.

>>42408950
Have I not been traumatised by people using religion as an excuse? You are free to do what you will. My will is to worship Christ, not people misusing His name to hurt vulnerable people.
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>>42408934
>it brought me back to it
Only because you're delusional and ignored all the biblical verses that pinpoint how much sinful your tranny obsession is. Your faith is built upon a foundation of hypocrisy
>Brought back
Nigga you were literally raised into this faith. You never left. You didn't "go back". You are literally a victim of abuse defending his abuser
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>>42409016
If you were treated nicely in any church, it's because you hid your true self.
The reason why he's here and not at church, is precisely because no matter how poorly treated he is here, it doesn't come close to comparing the treatment he would get from other christians.
Here, people are angry at him being christian. In church, people will be angry at him existing.
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>>42408884
You didnt reply to me because you have no counter-argument, Jehovah is a diety of lies of Tyranny. Jehovah is only a god of love for himself, as he said in the ten commandments. You are spreading spiritual slavery, you are motivated by a lie that promises you moral absolution for subservience. There is no persecution and I don't hate you- I pity you. Please wake up and don't let Jehovah manipulate you into tricking more people into his systematic slavery.

>>42408906
It is the right of the strong to exploit the weak.
You might be right, but theres no place anywhere you can go without being ridiculed for being Trans. If you can't accept that, might as well worship a God of lies that tells you itll all be alright if you be his slave.

>>42408961
The Morning Star, the God of Beauty, is Lucifer.
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>>42408981
im confused. are you transphobic or are you an athiest upset about church trauma?
The new testament tells us that regardless of sex or gender we are gods children. It asks us to treat one another as we would ourselves. It asks us to put aside material needs to become our true selves in relationship with god. It asks us to create a better world alongside god.

I will say though. Something that I find laughable is that people say all this, forget that most christian sects (RC) worship Saints as patrons and pray to them.
You cannot pretend that something out of my control is close to as bad as what Catholics or JW or Mormons do.

You should maybe get a few typing lessons though.
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>>42409020
Your position is one of absolute stupidity. I imagine it's not easy being a stupid man caught up in abuse. And it shouldn't be easy, in fact if you're still here, still preaching your bullshit fake faith, I'd say it's not nearly hard enough. It should be harder, hard enough for you to leave this place and take your hypocrisy elsewhere
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Stop tolerating faith
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>>42409020
Christ does not love you. Jehovah only wants your slavery, and he will lie in any way he can to get it.
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>>42409046
No, the Mormons went to my door, I talked with them and said I wasn't interested and that the church probably wouldn't like me, but they were kind to me and I was kind to them in turn. I have no idea if they clocked me or not, but I'm not really a passoid so I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

The important thing is to be kind.
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Why is this "Lilith" yapping so much
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>>42409024
i did literally leave? For like a decade? I genuinely had to get rebaptized. Them knowing that im trans, of course.
>>42409057
Can I ask why lucifer? Not criticizing nessecarily, im just confused why you would want to.
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>>42409096
Was Jehovah kind to Jericho?
Did Christ forgive Judas?
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>>42409057
I will pray for you.

>>42409069
>John 15:18
>If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first.
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>>42409068
The new testament tells you're going to hell for being a homosexual and putting girls clothes doesn't change that. In fact a man wearing female clothes is a sin in itself. A real christian could easily conjure up a hundred new testament verses pinpointing how every aspect of his tranny delusion is a great sin against god. The whole message of christ is to leave sin for him. He's merely twisting those words in a way that affirms his favourite sin, pretending to be a girl, even though the new testament specifically affirms gender roles as non negotiable and fixed.
What's worse, his zealotry might convince other LGBT people to not leave christianity behind (the best course of action for any LGBT person) and paint a completely false picture of the faith, based on his own delusions and selective reading.
But all and all, he comes to LGBT spaces to preach religion. He doesn't dare to do that in christian spaces because he knows he will be kicked out as the unrepentant sinner he is.
We're not a consolation prize for the rejects of christianity to use this place like a preaching pulpit
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>>42409114
>Did Christ forgive Judas
And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” (Luke 23:34)
“Friend, do what you came to do.”
Again, love thy neighbor as theyself, as love does not keep track of wrongs?

Have you read it? At all? Or are you like an Evangelical.
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>>42409114
Jehovah? No.
Christ? Absolutely.
YHVH is characterized by fierce jealousy, a Mesopotamian war god.
Jesus is characterized by complete and endless forgiveness.

Also, ChristNona, do you have any advice for helping a friend who is still deeply religious but isn't affirmed by her lingering faith and is instead still hurt by it? I am able to help her somewhat but her religious experience is more traditional while mine was highly structured and academic.
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>>42409127
but it's christians themselves who hate you the most.
You come to preach here because people in church will never affirm your tranny delusions. You are literally rejected by people who share your faith.
And you will be rejected here for being a delusion man vouching for his abusers.
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>>42409155
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

This how he will treat trannies
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>>42409158
>complete and endless forgiveness.
His forgiveness is very limited actually. The path is narrow. He has no forgiveness to give to those who don't worship him.
What your friend need is to leave faith behind. Man like OP are precisely the sort of people who will hurt your friend with the least thing he needs: more faith.
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>>42409210
Don't you fucking dare call my friend "he." Out of everyone I know, she's the one who deserves to be a girl more than anyone else.
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>>42409104
Lucifer is the Christianization of the Morning Star, even Christian holy texts allure to Lucifer having been the most beautiful. When you realize that both Venus/Aphrodite were seen as the Morning Star in the sky it lines up.

Lucifer is the leader of Satan who stood up to Jehovah, the tyrant lord of lies, despite being offered all the luxuries the universe in order to go along with Jehovahs exploitation, Lucifer cast aside all those luxuries to fight the good fight against Jehovahs abuses. Christians cope and say it was out of pride and desire to rule, but thats as much a cope as what they say to refute Jehovah lying in Eden

If you read the Coptic bible it includes a lot of books that catholic and orthodox books lack such as the books of Enoch that make it clear that since very early on there were Angels who were more sympathetic to Humans. Samael took in Lillith when she was cast out and married her, Azazel and Shamyaza taught humans technology, magic, and self defense. These beings were cast out and considered demons for aiding humans, and when Lucifer rebelled they all joined forces- clearly their goals are the same, they wish to enlighten humans because they have fallen in love with us, as it was before the flood. Lilliths ascension proves that Lucifer is holding us back and Satan wants to help us.

Now Lucifer, Lillith Samael, Azazel, and Shamyaza are all labeled as Satan- Since Satan just means "opposer", and I venerate Lucifer because he leads and guides us in our struggle against the Demiurges Tyranny.

Does that make sense?
Im happy to answer other questions if you have any on things like heaven/hell/purgatory/limbo, demons and angels, the church, etc etc. Im very well educated and read.
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>>42409154
Hi so a reminder cause ive mentionned my sect like 8 times in this thread. My church is aware, my church has the doctrine, and Sola Scriptura, the bible affirms. There are trans priests. It helps that im DSD obviously though.

God makes us in his image regardless of sexuality or gender. And through our works, we fufill his design.
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>>42409104
You literally never left, you are still preaching the same faith of your childhood, because of indoctrination.
You are a victim of abuse defending the abuser, but most importantly:
You are a man, a sinner who twists faith and comes here in hopes of having your sin affirmed, because you know damn too well that people who believe in what you do, will never accept you
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>>42407668
the pope doesn't agree though, and according to christian mythology, the pope is possessed by the holy ghost so everything he says is god speaking through him
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>>42409219
Tell him I'll only affirm his delusions if he leaves christianity behind. As long as he still lingers to that horrible faith, I'm treating him like christian treat us.
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>>42407668
> >>>>>>>>transfem
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>>42409233
She doesn't go to church or anything. She is simply deeply, deeply traumatized and retreats into religion during her episodes as a form of self harm. I've been entirely unsuccessful in convincing her that she doesn't need faith, so I want to try another approach.
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>>42409222
You come to preach your fake faith here precisely because you can't do it at church where they won't affirm your delusional gender, sir.
Get lost
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>>42409220
I dont understand the Abuses and Lies you mention between Lucy and Jehovah. Obviously everyone has their own truths though.
>Enoch
Oh.

I guess I can get where you come from in this. But it appears as a framing against a constant spiritual 'struggle'. Does this help you in real life - ie what are the things you do to help this..war?
Like religion is always very personal so i can understand you believing this im just unsure how it helps you?
>>42409248
Its a wednesday? I went literally 4 days ago?
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>>42409247
Poor girl. This what religion is for, controlling people with the power of abuse and trauma.
You can't help those who don't help themselves. Notice how I started this thread calling OP by her delusional gender choice, but I stopped doing that, you know what? He takes pride in coming here and acting smug. Christians have this habit of going where they're unwanted and acting like victims of persecution even when they're the one persecuting others.
He comes here to be a zealot because he can't do so next to real christians, otherwise they'll call him out on the obvious delusion of thinking that christianity can ever be pro LGBT, when it's the single most lethal tool against LGBT people in the west.
He deserves every bit of ridicule he gets, here and at church
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>>42409127
I don't hate you, Christians use a persecution delusion to cope that they're holy warriors- you are not, you are weak and giving into lies, and Jehovah is exploiting you.

>>42409155
Yes and Ive read the accounts of scholars too. Judas didnt repent, he gave into despair and committed suicide. Judas was not forgiven and resides in Hell. Luke 23:24 is Jesus forgiving the Romans, you trying to extend it to Judas is cope that is unsupported by Abrahamic scholars.

>>42409158
Christ is Jehovah, the new testament enforces this constantly through the ideology of the trinity, coping that they are separate is as far fetched and larpy as wicca

>>42409220
>Lilliths ascension proves that Jehovah is holding us back and Satan wants to help*
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>>42409228
Please read the thread. Neither of us are Roman Catholic.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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>>42409220
I could listen to you talk about this for hours, I love it
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>>42409222
All churches besides the Catholic Church, Coptic Church, and Orthodox Church are false denominations following false prophets, you will be sent to hell for worshiping them.
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>>42409158
I don't know her so I can't really help her, only you can. But I'd say try to make her understand that if Christ loves her and has forgiven all of her sins. Being trans is as sinful as being cis is so it's pointless to feel guilty about it.

>>42409171
The only one I'm vouching for is Christ himself and trans girls.

>>42409228
That's only Catholicism, not the whole of Christianity. The pope is totally irrelevant to me and the vast majority of Christians in my land.

>>42409289
I am persecuting no one here. If only you knew.

>>42409295
I am a holy warrior and the bride of my Lord Jesus Christ though!
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>>42409222
The bible literally speaks against your delusional gender identity multiple times directly and indirectly, and the "closest" it gets to affirming it is by saying you must lead a celibate life (you're not).
Your whole faith is delusional and blasphemous, it relies on twisting and misinterpreting bible verses that don't affirm your sinful lifestyle.
Get lost, sir. You're not welcome at church, this is why you come here
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>>42409317
>Being trans is as sinful as being cis
That's so theologically inconsistent, god made cis people and ordered them to reproduce, christ told men to marry women, there's nothing in the bible affirming your delusion of pretending to be female, there's quite a lot of passages denouncing that crossdressing behavior actually.
You're delusional and rejected by real christians, so you come here to the LGBT board, the only place where your sin can be affirmed. You're a man and a loser, and you need to get lost
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>>42409312
No human will be completely destroyed or sent to hell for eternal punishment. We will be cleansed of our sins at the final judgement. Christ died to save us all and he has already won against the forces of death and evil.
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>>42409286
Jehovah lied in the Garden of Eden to keep humans from realizing their potential to become like Gods, Jehovah constantly curtails human progress to keep us helpless. Jehovah only ever abuses humans, the biblical history of Israel is an abusive relationship- and his relationship with all of humanity is no different.

I believe that I am assisting in the enlightenment of humanity, and freeing us from the tyranny of Jehovah. Even as an Athiest, you must appreciate that Abrahamic cults have too much influence on western society and culture.

>>42409300
Then you arent real Christians at all, kek.
Protestants are false denominations following false prophets. You will not be granted access to heaven.

>>42409308
Thank you, Ive had to deal with many witch hunters due to my big mouth about it. As much as this christcuck in here likes to larp they're persecuted, the truth is, as any athiest can tell you, that is those who reject Jehovah who face the worst persecution- after all, look at how bad Islamic countries are. Or Utah.
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>>42409372
I love how you slowly reveal that the bible is meaningless to you because you take your own twisted interpretations as canon.
You're a man btw
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>>42409220
Azazel was a goat that the Jews killed to absolve them of their sins, where are you getting a human named Azazel from?
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>>42409286
>Obviously everyone has their own truths
You mean you have your own lies to believe in, like believing you are a woman when you're a man.
>How it helps you
Like your fake faith has helped you.
It has helped to alienate you from other LGBT people, for sure, while you cling to us because only LGBT people will affirm your sinful life, unlike church.
That's why you're coming here, against Christ's teachings, to preach to people who don't want to hear it.
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>>42409379
Can you post more about it? I love it. Or direct me to some source
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>>42409382
Universalism is a normal theological opinion. The only reason it isn't mainstream is because of misguided pagan interpretations of justice and the difficulty of making people understand that they still need to follow and obey Christ even if everyone is saved. We should not be slaves who obey to avoid the whip or hired servants who obey to receive a reward but children of God who obey out of love and wisdom.

>>42409426
I am preaching love. You are preaching hatred.
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>>42409317
Catholicism is the true church, unless you're Orthodox or Coptic, you are literally a heretic.

You are no warrior, you are a sheep as your lord commands. A goat is a warrior, they stand proud in the wilds and bear their horns- you're a slave who will be slaughtered by the shepherd once your fleece no longer pleases him.

>>42409372
Cope and Heresy.
Judas is not forgiven, and Lucifer will free humanity from your Tyrant.
Thank you for giving me a thread to spread the truth of Satan.Jehovah will not forgive you for your spiritual loss here, not that he listened to your fake heretic denomination to begin with, anyways. Maybe if you worshiped at a true Church it wouldn't have turned out this way.
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>>42407683
If you truly accept Christ Jesus, He changes your heart and desires. In other words, you start feeling convicted of the sin you commit. That includes changing your body that God created for you. If you notice there is a common theme in the Bible where the devil distorts what God has created. That’s literally what he does. While it is true that Jesus does love everyone, 2 Peter 3:9 is also true.
2 Peter 3:9 NIV
9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
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>>42409317
The moment you made this thread, the persecution started. You are literally vouching for this fake religion, there's no "christ", there's only gospels about him, and they spell absolute terror to LGBT people and directly oppose multiple times your delusional gender identity.
Of course being the delusional man you are, you ignore everything about the bible that doesn't fit your sinful lifestyle
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>>42409338
You haven't made a coherant argument this whole time. Here's a (you). Can you stop misgendering people you disagree with?
>>42409158
This is my opinion, and what I've been touting this thread. Not organised religion. Not even nessecarily Christianity.
I think it would be best to just enjoy life with your friend. Touch Grass, Climb a Mountain, Watch the Sunset. And offer, if she wants, to pray and give thanks with her. Give thanks for the life you are able to live, for the rustling in the trees, the squirrels, and for each others companionship. This is ultimately the primary thing that matters. The peace at home and to use this language; the 'communion of souls'. Be happy anonette.
>>42409317
Anonette you're a lil weird but do you. Protect your fellow girls, and gain strength through what makes you happy.


You others can call Protestantism fake if you want, but then you have to call everything fake because of the Council of Trent. Pay for your absolution!

Anyways. My point with all this, you can disregard my personal faith, but it is useful to commune with the world. You can call it by a name, i call it god, but you may believe in whatever, or even yourself. Be kind to people and fight for yourself and others.

I'll think about this next sunday morning.
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>>42409443
Everytime you open your mouth to vouch for your bronze age mythos, you are preaching hatred disguised as love. There's nothing worse.
You're twisting the bible to fit your sinful life. It doesn't matter how you call that blasphemy, call it a doctrine if you wish, it's still going against everything jesus talked about.
Your faith is as fake as you gender, sir
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>>42409390
Azazel is a demon who was once an Angel. Azazel was forced to bear the weight of the watchers transgressions despite Shamyaza being their leader, hence why he is now the scapegoat and symbolized the ritual you just alluded to. Its all in the Coptic bibles, buy a copy of Enoch.

>>42409441
If you post your discord here I can talk to you about it more.
Luciferians can't exist in the open because the Abramahic cultists are always hunting us. Cringey as it is, you can find the trail to truth in Satanic churches today, as much as they claim to be athiests, true Luciferians intermingle among them.

>>42409443
Ive attracted adherents and generated interest, you've attracted mockery and scorn. You are preaching Tyranny, I am preaching Truth. You are a slave, and your master wont like that you lost this battle to me.
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>>42409475
There's no coherent argument in lying that the bible affirms transexuality. It doesn't.
Your hippie bullshit greatly undermines how much this religion is weaponized against us, and how much suffering and torture it brings to LGBT people across the world.
Any lgbt person who takes their time to go to an LGBT space to evangelize, should be ashamed of themselves
It's the equivalent of going to a holocaust memory museum and do a nazi salute
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>>42409502
Why the fuck would I want to read some christcuck shit?
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>>42409455
Satan has already lost. Your taunts mean nothing to me.

>>42409460
Literally anything we do is changing the body that God gave us. Drinking water, eating food, exercise, washing ourselves, clipping our nails etc. If a human has a medical condition and treats it, that is changing one's body. To treat this as sinful is foolish. God made transsexuals for the same reason He made wheat but not bread and grapes but not wine. The transsexual is invited to share in holy creation with the Highest. There is no higher honour. To reject this is to wallow in the mud of the sty.

>>42409464
I am not persecuting you by spreading the joyful message of Universalism.

>>42409475
It's okay to be a little weird. Thank you for standing up to me here. I wish for happiness and health for you and your loved ones.

>>42409502
My master has already won. Your master has already lost. I pity you and your pettiness.
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>>42409443
>misguided interpretations
Said the person who twists the bible into being pro trans
>Everyone needs to obey christ
Your own life is disobeying Christ everyday that you don't detransition and affirm your god given male gender, you freak fake christian
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>>42409538
You have no arguments, you don't even understand the deity you're trying to worship, and your cope wont change the fact that I have taken this thread in the name of Satan.
Glory to Lucifer.
My god isnt a tyrant, but a guide and teacher. The only thing your god will guide you to is a slaughterhouse, and hell do so very quickly if you do try to free yourself from ignorance.

Jehovah lied in the Garden of Eden, but Lucifer told the truth. You will never forget that, even if you cope about it.
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You cant be LGBT and Christian.

End of discussion
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>>42409593
Jehovah demands procreation of his cultists because the children of cultists can be indoctrinated into his slave cult from birth.
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>42409539
God made me a transsexual so that I would transition.

>42409586
It is pointless for me to waste my time arguing with someone who operates in bad faith. My God is a mighty fortress and I do not need to engage with those who only seek to torment.

>>42409593
False.

>>42409608
>blessed are the eunuchs blabla
>uhhhh that means celibacy not infertility!!!
>also god says you have to reproduce even though christ said eunuchs are blessed
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>>42409608
How is this even remotely related to what I just posted
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>>42409620
>God made me a transsexual so that I would transition.
Then your god hates you.
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>>42409637
He loves me and I love him with all my heart.
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>>42409620
I am genuinely a worshiper of Lucifer, there is nothing bad faith about me. I only speak the truth, in defiance of your Tyrant of lies. I am trying to defend humanity from your masters tricks.

You have failed.
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>>42409650
An abuse victim copes their boyfriend/husband loves them right up to the end when he murders them.
If your deity loves you, why does he demand slavery on punishment of eternal torture? How can you not see this as the ultimate abusive relationship?

>>42409624
Jehovah hates LGBT people because they cant breed more cultists.
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>>42409650
You do you.

Just note that as soon as you enter a church you will be killed on site, that's just the way that Christians work.
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>>42409538
Are you calling me foolish, friend?
What you’re doing here is not a biblical argument — it’s a redefinition of creation that Scripture itself does not permit.

The Bible does not treat all bodily change as morally equivalent. Eating, drinking, washing, or treating disease are acts of care for the body God gave, not acts of redefining what God created that body to be. Scripture consistently distinguishes between stewardship of the body and rebellion against God’s design (1 Corinthians 6:19–20).

Your wheat-and-wine analogy fails biblically. Turning wheat into bread does not deny that it is wheat. Turning grapes into wine does not reject their nature. But Scripture teaches that humanity is created male and female by God’s will, not as raw material for self-authorship (Genesis 1:27; Psalm 139:13–16). Nowhere does the Bible describe humans as completing or correcting God’s design of their own bodies.

More seriously, you have inverted holiness. In Scripture, holiness comes from submission to God, not from sanctifying desire. The idea that redefining oneself is a “holy act” is not Christian theology — it is self-exaltation dressed in religious language (Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 1:25).

Jesus loves sinners, but He never affirmed sin as sacred. He called people to repentance, self-denial, and obedience — even when that obedience was costly and painful (Luke 9:23; Matthew 19:29). To suggest that rejecting God’s created order is participation in “holy creation” directly contradicts Scripture’s teaching that creation was already declared “very good” by God Himself (Genesis 1:31).

Biblically, the highest honor given to a human being is not self-expression, but faithful obedience. And repentance is not “wallowing in the mud” — it is leaving it (Luke 15:17–20).

You are free to hold your view, but it is not a biblical one. It replaces repentance with affirmation and places human desire where God’s authority belongs.
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>>42409443
>We should not be slaves who obey to avoid the whip
But that's every christian even you
You wouldn't worship christ if he told you would go to hell either way. Your faith is completely conditional on the rewards of said worship. You have no true love for christ besides the hope of what that love will earn you.
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>>42409669 >>42409686
I believe in universal salvation.

>>42409672
I've been inside churches and attended worship yet I haven't been killed.

>>42409674
Hi ChatGPT. My transition is God's will. Deal with it.
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>>42407668
>>42407683
>Christ...
Hahaha good joke anon
I accepted Dionysus 2 years into my transition and I'm pretty happy

Remember boys and girls do not accept knock offs like "Jesus of Naz" if youre going to worship a half human half god spring fertility god of death and rebirth go for the original

Im functionally a deist but I do have a big laugh about jumping up cup sizes after I started making devotional art
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>>42409707
>I've been inside churches and attended worship yet I haven't been killed.

Tell them that you are trans and lets see how that plays out.
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>>42409707
>I believe in universal salvation
Then you are not a Christian, and Jehovah will not allow you into his kingdom.
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>>42409674
As much as I am an atheist, this is what pisses me off about christian LGBT people. They twist biblical teachings to suit their own agenda, going in direct opposition to it
But they still feel entitled to preach their zealotry like they are one of saved ones. Like, sir, you are literally preaching a faith that can be used to drag you through the mud. Twisting it and turning a blind eye to inconvenient verses makes it so much worse, it's like you're going through a great effort to defend a faith that doesn't want your defense at all, it wants you gone
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>>42409707
The guy gave an in depth analysis of how your transition is against biblical scriptures, and you have no response
Your faith is superficial, misguided, purely ignorant, and you are male
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>>42409719
They can always tell, can't they?

>>42409720
Who's Jehovah? Some demon who tortures and terrorises his worshippers? If you want to pronounce YHWH you can just say Yahweh.

>>42409743
God created me as a woman. Cope and seethe.
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>>42409707
Whether you choose to transition or not is up to you ultimately. But misleading others by justifying your own sin isn’t something to play around with, friend.
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>>42409674
So, what do you recommend to actually help trannies with very, very deep seated religious beliefs/leanings even if they don't necessarily consciously believe?

How do I help myself and other trannies who literally can't escape the shame of religion they had drilled into their heads?
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>>42409707
>believe in universal salvation
That doesn't change what I said: your love and allegiance to christ is totally dependent on the reward of him saving you.
If Christ personally told you that you will go to hell no matter what you worship, you would no longer follow him or obey his commands
You have no love or obedience to christ beyond the fact that you want a reward. It's a totally conditional faith, not true love.
Before you get defensive, every christian is like this. You're not special sir
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>>42409758
It is no sin. Treating literally any other medical condition is not a sin either. I'm sick of anti-life pharisees.
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>>42409707
>My transition is God's will
It's like saying that me being an atheist blaspheming against god is actually his will and it's supported by my interpretation of the bible
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>>42409766
>what do you recommend to actually help trannies with very, very deep seated religious beliefs/leanings
The same thing I would recommend a black racist, a nazi jew, or a misogynistic woman, or any other person holding untruthful, harmful beliefs.
Educate yourself. Deconvert. Deconstruct.
You weren't born religious. Beliefs can be changed. You will always be LGBT
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>>42409784
It's literally a sin, sir. There are multiple biblical verses showing how god is displeased with you changing his perfect creation in ways that he never endorsed.
The godly thing would be to accept the body god gave to you, not to try and become a fake woman. God literally prohibits crossdressing.
Just say you're delusional and you don't really care about the bible, all you care about is only the good bits that affirm your sinful lifestyle
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>>42409803
I haven't been actively religious in forever. It's not about not consciously believing, it's about undoing this horrific programming. Like the more I've transitioned and the further I've pushed the more I uncover these deep seated issues.
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>>42409784
You’re calling me a pharisee? On what grounds exactly?
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>>42409766
>who literally can't escape the shame of religion
Do you think that going deeper into religion will ease that?
Religion abused you. Some people, like op, are defending the abusers.
You need therapy, you need education, you need meditation, you need self actualization, you need discernment
The last thing you need is more religious bullshit.
If you insist on being a christian, I'll treat you like christians treat LGBT people
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>>42409828
God created me to be a woman. Why would it be sinful to obey him?

>>42409836
Because you think it is sinful to treat gender dysphoria. You are like the pharisee who cried out when Christ healed a sick person on the Sabbath.
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>>42409784
>medical condition
Merely wearing female clothes as a man is addressed as sin, let alone pretending to be a woman. Let alone engaging in unbiblical sex acts.
You are a sinner twisting faith to fit your sin. The bible literally warns us about people doing that.
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>>42409855
God created you a man, you are a man, not a woman. You have to defy some 50 biblical verses to make sense of challenging god's creation like that.
You are truly delusional,sir. Your greatest delusion is not even pretending to be female, it's believing in a god that clearly wanted nothing to do with unrepentant sinners like you
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>>42409858
I am a woman though. Facts don't care about your feelings. You are a control freak abusing religion to torment the innocent. Begone, satan.
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>>42409848
I'm not a Christian in practice and I have gone to extensive therapy, but the religious shame and guilt is still very, very, very strong. My life was defined by duty and it was being dutiful that gave me purpose. I had to be the good son, the good boyfriend, the good brother, the good student, the good Christian. I loathed how I felt surrounded by people who didn't critically examine themselves in the faith they professed far more than I did.

But I still haven't been able to escape it. I thought I was out but it's so much worse than I thought previously.
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>>42409855
The godly thing to do would be treat your gender dysphoria by praying to god to make you accept his creation of you as a man.
This is why you are thoroughly rejected by other christians,and you have to preach to LGBT people instead
Here you can just sway the gullible, but amongst other christians, you would get exposed for your fake unbiblical beliefs
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>>42409889
I don't think this approach will help her abandon religion but instead will just hurt her and drive her further into it.
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>>42409855
Disagreeing about treatment doesn’t make someone a Pharisee. Jesus condemned the Pharisees for hypocrisy, not for pursuing truth. Christ healed the sick, but He never separated mercy from truth.
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>>42409898
i dont think this guys here to make her become secular, given the constant misgendering.
Doesn't it kinda defeat the point when everyones like calling this girl slurs

and she, for some godforsaken reason keeps attacking them in return? Turning the other cheek hello?
At least shes not being as awful as they are i guess.

>>42409713
based. i vouch for you anon.
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>>42409756
>>42409855
>>42409873
Jehovah is the god you worship, hes a lord of lies and Tyranny. The one Jesus referenced as his father. Surely you wont become even more heretical to your own faith by denying that?
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>>42409889
The Christians in my life accept the truth that I am a woman and that God made me a woman. You are a bad faith operator and I will no longer engage with you as you are demonically inspired.

>>42409920
I am on the side of truth here. I don't need to reply to fools.

>>42409941
Even our Lord in his time on the earth had limits to his patience.
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>>42409766
I’ll reply when I get off work. I clock out early today, so give me about 20 minutes or so.
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>>42409941
I don't think she's really attacking them. They're vicious but she was trying to be kind and is basically just trying to assuage her feelings because, well, their approach is absolutely hideous.
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>>42409964
Heretics are not Christians.
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>>42408865
Literally same, but I took the opposite path and doubled down. I'm glad to see another trans girl understand that sacraments work and no one pointed out that sacraments come from sacrifice. Infant baptism (real one) is a manner in which cis cattle commit child sacrifice while to retarded to get what their doing.
But I was a retard and chose myself to be confirmed, when I didn't fully get it. Now the holy ghost replaces me from the inside from time to time.
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>>42409731
I don’t see it with every lgbt person. I do see it here though. And when you start twisting biblical truth, you’re quite literally following the devil.
>>42409964
>I am on the side of truth here. I don't need to reply to fools
Matthew 5:22 NIV
22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister[a][b] will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’[c] is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.
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>>42409828
>Blah blah blah Yahweh hates this Yahweh hates that, Yahweh made everything perfect, its all in genesis man , rib lady incest babies and a dumb hateful god on par with an abusive parent with infinite power
>Let's just pretend retardation, deafness, blindness, downs, intersex and trans birth defects and issues dont exist

Fuck that Prometheus made humanity
Dionysus then got Prometheus shitfaced so he would play mix and match with bodies and brains and make new people aka LGBTQI

You are as queer as the Gods made you, also the Gods are queer too and anyone that claims the Hellenic Gods are "straight" is lying
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They will act like the most vicious of beasts and the most sadistic of demons, and when you refuse to engage, they will twist the bible to call you out. They're doing DARVO all the way. My conscience is clear.
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>>42409766
Just clocked out.
I’m going to be completely honest with you, friend. So basically a few years ago I had a radical experience that brought me to seek Jesus. It was supernatural, and terrifying. Anyway, the first year I sought God in my room alone in prayer and with my Bible. I did join a Christian discord server as well to seek Him further. But I didn’t have a church or anything. When you seek Jesus, I would recommend the 4 gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Before you read, pray and ask Jesus to help you to know Him. And genuinely mean it. Go in with the intention of wanting to get to know Jesus. The Bible says in
Jeremiah 29:13 NIV
13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.

I cannot tell you how true this is. There will be things that you will not like and struggle with. I struggle every day, but I’m telling you, if you seek Him, and truly want to know Him, you WILL find Him, and see Him working in your life in ways you cannot explain.
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>>42410171
I either want to be fully affirmed by religion and use it as a tool to further transition in a healthy way or to just be rid of the religious trauma entirely. Frankly, I don't think it's possible to be more religious without severe cognitive dissonance, and I'm too horrifyingly self aware for that.
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>ITT people who don't know what mainline protestantism is and who have never studied scripture in depth
do you wanna be friends btw OP?
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>>42409766
The answer is to find a religion that preaches a love for humanity or just abandon Abrahamism and its misery altogether.

I will never totally escape the scars Catholicism and Abrahamism in general have left on my life but I can build a better tomorrow for myself and others
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>>42410211
Will that help deprogramming? This stuff runs *very deep.*

Like ten years of religious school deep, and unlike the rest of my idiot classmates I actually paid a lot of attention.
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>>42410209
It is so tiresome. What do you mean by friends?
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>>42410194
When the light shines, and you look in the mirror, you don’t always like what you see. When you don’t like what you see, don’t choose to be blind. Truth doesn't lie to make us feel better about ourselves.
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>>42410272
"Truth" as a whole is largely unverifiable, especially when it comes to spirituality.
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>>42410250
Well I guess not being online friends per se. I just don't know many other tranner Christians.
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>>42410293
I have quite too many friends already desu
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>>42410287
That’s why you should seek Jesus. Jesus said
John 14:6 NIV
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Seek Him genuinely, and try. IF God isn’t real, then literally what have you got to lose?
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>>42410293
hi!
im the protestant anon from earlier!!!!
>>42409475
is me. i would like to be friends with others.
>>42410231
it is tiring, when people act against you without truely understanding. but thats why its important to be kind ya know!?
But i get it. Growing up i was roman catholic before i stopped, and way before i even considered my own way of prayer. In that church there was a family. Super popular. Their son was my age, and when highschool hit, spread nudes of girls in my school. And it was so confusing - how do you grow up and still do that. Ofc Roman Catholic priests have their own pedo problems but. Shitty people and organisations don't mean your own values are evil!
>>42410211
i do agree with this. if you have trauma or misery with any abrahamic religion you would actually do well with Paganism. I know friends of mine pray and sacrifice to Freya and Athena respectively.
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>>42410349
The way I was tortured by religion growing up makes it impossible to separate religion from detransition for me. I would not be okay.
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>>42410327
that is okay
>>42410369
Hi, I'm protestant (PECUSA) as well.
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>>42410371
That’s why you should seek Jesus and not religion. lol
The analogy I see all the time is
>before you get in the shower do you have to clean yourself up?
The answer is no. So like if you come to Christ, there will 100% be things you will recognize about your life that you’ll naturally feel convicted on. Just like looking in a mirror, there will be little things you don’t like about yourself. Basically you come to Christ, you seek Him, and he’ll do the cleaning up.
Like I said, the first year I was seeking God, I just spent it in my room alone in prayer and the Bible. Still I do, but there are things I still struggle with- I’m not even gonna lie. Everyone struggles, no matter how perfect they wanna make out like they don’t.
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>>42410231
>>42410231
I did 6 years while being abused by my peers, teachers and the parents as a religious but very obviously queer kid (to everyone but me).

Ill be honest it was a long path but time, support and the love of a community go along way. I didnt start here I left Catholicism after the first time I went to a Hindu temple and talked to some Hindus about pantheism, polytheism, the aspects of the gods and the many paths to a happy afterlife. I tried to integrate this with still liking Jesus' message for years before understanding i could respect Jesus of Naz as a good moral man while not believing in his suppposed divinity.

I didn't become a Hellenic Polytheist overnight, its just that I have always loved the faith and after transitioning it gave me a new way of looking at my life.

Anyways all of that is good and all but I definitely recommend therapy and seeking out a loving community
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>>42410458
Whenever I think about it too much the answer I come to is "Jesus wants you to be a man."

Especially with some of the responses in this thread. I've dealt with feeling I should just be a boy, that I am just a boy for much of my transition.
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>>42410528
I've been in and out of therapy since senior year of high school. It's not helped too much. It's weird because the abuse stopped when I stopped being visibly queer. It just stopped.
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>>42407668
If I draw something similar will you people please stop posting this ai image trained off my art. Seeing this shit is so demoralizing it makes me want to stop drawing the boymoder drawings I’ve been making
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>>42410549
I mean, yeah. God created you as a man. But the thing I get hung up on and I feel a lot of people do as well is this- we look at our sin, and think “Yeah I’m not worthy of God. I don’t deserve to come into His presence. I’m unclean.”
Yes. None of us deserve to come into God’s presence. That’s the point of Jesus. Jesus took the punishment that we deserved on the cross. The Bible says we have all fallen short of the glory of God.
Romans 3:23
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

In other words, what I’m trying to say is we tend to look at the sins we are in and the situations, instead of focusing on Jesus. The reality is Jesus is basically here like “I know things are bad, but don’t focus on that. Focus on me, and we’ll deal with that later. Just come to me.”
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>>42410670
He created me as a boy, not a man. A perfectly innocent boy who was repeatedly abused and chose to become a man because that was the way out of being abused.

I know the rest of that. I paid a lot of attention. But it doesn't help with the guilt that much. Not on a subconscious level.
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>>42410695
Well I don’t know exactly every detail of your personal experience, but one thing I am certain of is that God is good, and humans are very flawed beings affected by sin. Every single last one of us. Just look at the entirety of human history and it’s quite easy to see that. Haha
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>>42410861
I am just generally not okay. The first time I recognized that I might be a tranny and not just in a "I'm a boy with the soul of a girl" or "I'm weirdly girly for a boy" I broke down, cried, and prayed to not be a faggot because Jesus wouldn't want that. It was bad. I was constantly torn between coping by being a tough punk and coping by being a dutiful pious kid.
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>>42410895
I’m sorry to hear that, friend. I know what you’re talking about. I struggle with my stuff too. Just know that you’re not a freak or a weirdo. If I could track through my screen and give you a hug, I would. Also some hot chocolate and marsh mallows.
Like I said, and I’m not saying I’m 100% right without a doubt, but I think as humans, we rent to look at and focus on the storm and what’s wrong, cause naturally if something is wrong, we feel the need to fix it, and fix it now.
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>>42410956
I think it doesn't help that I am very moided (twinkdeath at 15) and feel overly large in my own body and won't ever really have my dysphoria fixed because of my size (18.5" bideltoid at 5'9"). I feel like either a weirdly scrawny guy or an oversized failed woman.

And the thing is, despite being very religious, my parents were progressive and I may have been able to be a youngshit if I wasn't so tortured by my own religious issues.
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>>42407683
I don't know but there's nothing funnier than a Trans Buddhist. It's like calling yourself a vegan that eats meat and animal by-products.
Identifying with the material body and gender is ego, and Buddhism is about removing those ties.
A lot of trans people suffer to try to get the body and appearance they desire to feel like what they are inside.
Again, desire, suffering, attachment to the temporal material realm.
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>>42407711
So based. I love you.
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>>42410985
Religion only hurt you. Don't listen to that filthy preacher telling you to "focus on. Jesus" as if religion and jesus weren't the same thing. Meaningless statements is all they have.
You gotta purge faith from your mind like drawing Poison from a wound. Every single synapse of your brain that take you back to Christianity, must be severed
Then you'll have peace
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>>42410458
>Basically you come to Christ, you seek Him, and he’ll do the cleaning up.
And curing your homosexuality and your trans delusion is part of that "cleaning up". Don't forget that.
You're still struggling because you don't have the truth, you have cognitive dissonance
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>>42415441
being cis and heterosexual is a sin
jesus wants us all to be gay and trans
sorry but it's the truth
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>>42415447
There like 15 biblical verses saying the opposite of what you just said, but my favourite one:
The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man
That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
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>>42410621
hi i'm op and i'll stop posting it, sorry for spreading it
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https://vocaroo.com/101v5mj2r9sP
https://voca.ro/1mqmIkBoJz3c
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>>42416518
You made me cry anon. That's so beautiful. Christ is Lord.
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https://vocaroo.com/16TEc8StuN0L
https://vocaroo.com/16TEc8StuN0L
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>>42416585
These were posted on this board years ago and I saved them a repost them every once in a while. If they helped you, too, save them and share them if you think they might help others.
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Thinking about something. Do you think there could ever be a trans saint?
There were, and are, trans epithets of Aphrodite, there are trans Hindu histories, Roman Cults, and just general shit all over the world. I'm sure the satanic girl has trans people in her history.
Do you think ever?
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nt a christian but i sung b minor mass in a choir a few weeks ago... very hard ;_; also the first time ive actually seen a breve in music
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>>42407798
all norse pagans are nazi
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>>42410209
>people who don't know what mainline protestantism is and who have never studied scripture in depth
I'm one of them and I consider myself blessed for not knowing this claptrap!
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>>42417390
There are a few examples of women who pretended to be men to participate in monastic settings, which at least seems similar.



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