if you were a passoid and don't have many connections you might get away with pretending to be intersex if you're morally bankrupt, it might be what i do.

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yeah im coming up on year 5 of boymoding.

i honestly dont reccomend it. i missed out on so much. get surgeries and femmode now

>>42454463
>sports bra
problem solved, retard
t. 2 and a half year non passing boymoder

>>42454463
3 years of boymoding here. I wear tshirts and stuff and nobody says anything.

>>42454487
post urself in a tshirt im curious

>>42454484
ok but that wont work forever
and its not like i can wear a fucking hoodie twice my size in the summer
>>42454475
i'd like to miss out on being exposed as a freak
do you have any advice

>>42454463
i've been boymoding for 6 years now. no one has ever said anything to be about being trans or anything. a couple of times ive been asked if im a guy or a girl but literally only two times in the past 6 years. but don't worry people will still treat u like a freak even if they don't say anything to u directly.

>>42454626
its so fucking over

>>42454558
>its not like i can wear a fucking hoodie twice my size in the summer
weak.

>>42454463
its really quite easy if your genetics are shit. sports bras and layering are all you need if your bone structure is moided enough

>>42454711
its not even that i'll look completely retarded to people
what are they even supposed to think when they see a retard in a hoodie when its 40°C outside

>>42454728
how do you even layer when its hot outside
im completely flabbergasted by this meme that its "that easy"
if you live in greenland maybe

>>42454711
truth nuke
>>42454735
you'll look even worse walking around as a boymoder with your tits out nona

>>42454815
so i just need to kill myself you're saying

>>42454827
>how do I permaboymode???
>gets told how to
>erm... so I should just kill myself?
I don't fucking know, you refuse to believe you won't get quadruple J cups and that a sports bra simply cannot work and you're too weak to wear a hoodie in the summer, it feels like you're being intentionally obtuse

>>42454463
ive been either boy(man)moding or repping for nearly 5 years now
>how did you hide it?
i always wear baggy clothes and layers. in the winter (i live somewhere cold) i literally always wear a jacket, even inside. sometimes ill bind in the summer if i have to. otherwise my long hair covers it pretty well
>this is genuinely my plan
i wouldnt recommend. its hell

>>42454848
maybe im worrying needlessly
but what if im right and my boobs become too big to reasonably hide
genuinely the only solution would be reaching for the rope

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>>42454463
Of course it's a thing.
Threadly reminder that 96.4% of mtfs don't even get more than an A cup's worth of breast growth.
Don't let the schizos scare you into repping with their delusions. Hrt isn't that powerful.

>>42454463
it is certainly possible. chances are you won't get significant breast growth in the first place, and if you do you can just wear a binder in public. people genuinely do not care anyways.

as for whether or not it's healthy, idk. i've boymoded for close to 10 yrs, had ffs and got a bf, and am out to immediate family only. it's going ok so far there are worse ways to live ig

>>42454896
>>42454897
thanks for the hopefuel

>>42454896
wasn't the sample group in this study like quite old on average or am i thinking of a different one

>>42454897
>i've boymoded for close to 10 yrs
do you have tips on how to not kill yourself and suffer severely in permaboymode?
t. >>42454863

>>42454896
i refuse to believe this study was done on young trannies with good doses who arent starving themselves. almost every pic of a tranny (from here) i see has bigger than a cups, and i overshot that by far despite having horrible boob genetics

>>42454463
What >>42454896 said.
Realistically, though, if you want permaboymoding then you're on the wrong board.
Sadly, there is no board (that I'm aware of) for those of us who are functionally trannies but without the need to be called trannies or women. I just wanted a cuter body. Got my cuter body. Now maintaining it by being a good boy with the shots. That's it.
Realistically, the only thing I "lost" is the ability to wear tight t-shirts in the summer. But that's okay 'cause I love to girl/androgynous mode in the summer anyway.

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>>42454918
This was the paper that passage is from:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8664122
And this was what that paper cited for the subjects it based that analysis on:
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/103/2/532/4642966
Median age in the second linked article was only 28 which is a couple years below the general mtf population's average hrt starting age.

>>42454750
linen

>>42454982
It was done on young trannies (median age 28), but not ridiculously young child aged trannies.

>>42454996
i mean ideally i'd girlmode
but you know its a lot so im never going to do it

>>42455017
i'll look into it thanks

>>42455008
huh, the more u know i guess

>mean chest circumference of participants was ~35in
grim

>>42455060
>so im never going to do it
heh, that's what I said too when I started.
But cute face and not being super tall is just enough so I can girlmode from time to time. Since I'm not mentally a tranny, Idgaf if I get he/sir (though it rarely happens when I make an effort).
I'm 4yrs in though. And it has gotten easier in the last 15 months or so.
Confidence matters a lot. Ik this sounds like reddit crap, but having lived through it, I will say it's literally true. Normies dgaf that much as you think.
Just take the shots and be whatever.
I also noticed that a lot of basic non-famous trannies who make it are a lot more similar to me in terms of mentality.

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>>42454463
I've been boymoding/manmoding for almost 3 years. I didn't really have to do anything to keep this up because I've litterly never malefailed. it's easy to hide if you're moided enough.

bump

>>42455155
in what circumstances do you girlmode
like isnt it weird, what do people think

>>42455327
>like isnt it weird
No, not really.
I have beautiful long hair and lucked out on the face. I also did laser and maintain rigid skincare routine.
A cute scarf, a slightly wider shirt (to mask my shoulder incongruence), casual femcoded jeans and I get gendered female 80%+ of the time. Even more if I use my fem voice (former choir boy, so this helps).
>what do people think
If anyone asks, I always say I'm a dude. Almost always the answer is positive even from like church people. Women usually want to know my secrets lol.

>in what circumstances do you girlmode
In the summer everywhere except at work.
In the winter, almost nowhere unless I'm attending some event (concert, cosplaying event, w/e).
In the spring and autumn, it depends.
It also depends on how I feel that day.

I don't overthink these things. I just enjoy being able to finally have the very wide gender expression latitude that I craved.

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>>42454463
I've been boymoding for a decade and nobody knows

>>42454463
i would be a very loving and doting wife to pic rel please god please make it happen

>is permaboymoding even a thing?
this just seems like manmoding
>this is genuinely my plan but i dont know if im being delusional and retarded about it
seems like it will just make you crazy depressed but hey you can try. i think if you really dont pass though just honmoding in portland or seattles the better play.

>>42454463
there's that one really awful poster from chasergen right
how long has she been at it now?

How do you tell the boymoder you love her?

>>42456553
I think you use those words
"I love you"

>>42454897
>certainly possible
no it is not. you can’t pass as a “boy” past your mid 30s at best. and it would be disturbing seeing a middle aged man still trying to be a femboy. you will have to give it up eventually

>>42456565
That wouldn't come off as odd?

>>42454558
people can tell already is whst i would say. it’s not completely true but many will know

>>42454463
why even fucking troon at that point if you're okay with always being seen as a boy/man

>>42454889
Or girl mode and get real life experience for surgeries

>>42456578
>no it is not. you can’t pass as a “boy” past your mid 30s at best.
how is that different from being a mid 30s girlmoding troon exactly
i dont get it unless your point is just "old people bad"
>>42456607
the alternative is worse
its a middle ground

>>42454463
Yes me
Are you a nin fan?

>>42456585
She'll appreciate it. I think.

>>42456852
what's nin

>>42456911
nta but it means nine inch nails, it's a band

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>>42456607
i have to femboymode cause my hair is too short. i still wear makeup though but it sucks cause it draws more attention to me than if i maybe passed as a girl by having longer hair. i tried a wig but it didn't really work cause it doesn't match my natural hair's texture

>>42456844
>how is that different from being a mid 30s girlmoding troon exactly
you present as a mature woman at that point. my point was that you can’t look like a “boy” forever so boymoding has to end eventually, then you just have to manmode

>>42454896
How many were on Spiro and hondosed with no prog and also didn't put weight on
I had high e levels, added prog 3 years in and 5 years in I have D's. 160lb 5'7 for reference. I know having a larger rib cage influences things a bit but I'm not rly barrel chested at all, just moderate shoulder width.

>>42457042
isnt prog supposed to be bad for breast growth

>>42454463
I'm a 31 year old FFS manmoder, been manmoding and been on HRT for over a decade.
>>42456607
Because it's still better than not transitioning at all.

>>42456976
oh
yeah manmoding then however you wanna call it
but thats the plan

Sorta me i guess? 6 years ish hrt and still boymoding

Some ppl know me here from back in 2019

and im still on my bs

I'm a manmoder but I have like C cups, even with
more discreet bras there's still a very obvious lump there. It's so over

>>42456607
Nta but wouldn't you rather be seen as a man than as a tranny

>>42454463
I've been repressing for a decade if that counts

>>42454470
>slightly misleading cissoids occasionally is moral bankruptcy
the absolute state of what theyve done to trannykind

>>42454463
yeah, i can't hide it though. the boobs and ass are too fat and i'm way too feminine in how i am
you can boymode but it'll be obvious you're some form of transgender which is also usually more socially acceptable than being a turbo giga man hon in girl clothes.

>>42454463
and the good news is, most girl clothes are already boymoderish like tshirts and pants.
and its almost normal for guys to wear tight jeans and shirts anyways so it sort of works out.

>>42457226
When added too early yes. But I've seen girls that plateaued for a long time restart growth thanks to it and they round out rather than being stuck in stage 3

>>42454750
im a texan boy(man)moder so I might be able to help a bit more, usually in the summers ill wear a big light coat like a plaid or something, that keeps things hidden without being too unbearably hot.
binding also works if you wanna wear a t-shirt or something but honestly with how moided I am I hardly ever need one.

>>42454475
>get surgeries
im poor as hell and lucky enough for my hrt to be free

>>42454463
If you're really unlucky, especially with breast growth, you can. Just under 2 1/2 years manmoding (didn't have good levels the first year though). I don't need to bind and I've never malefailed. I don't recommend it ofc. The few times a year I have to go swimming I just wear a swim shirt and come up with some bs excuse and I could probably just pass it off as gyno if I had to.

>>42462182
i hope im very unlucky

>>42454735
I'm triple-layered with a beanie on every single day in the dead of Florida summer you just gotta roll with it

>>42464166
what do you say if people ask you why you're dressed like that

>>42454463
giwtwm

>>42463894
I hope you plan to at least be out to some people, otherwise you won't be able connect with anyone because they only know a mask and with each passing day it'll feel like another piece of your soul is rotting.

>>42454463
almost 4 years now
on very rare occasions i'll get called miss or ma'am but most of the time it's sir or just no pronouns at all
being completely flatchested helps me stick out less i guess, means i can get by in a t-shirt after this long on hrt
but if i'm not feeling confident in that i'll just use a sports bra or wear a sweater or even just a flannel shirt

i used to think people couldn't tell but recently coworkers have been asking my department lead what i am so i guess it's finally coming to an end this year

>>42466640
i dont have any friends and im surely not going to be out with my family so no

>>42454735
It's actually super easy: You just don't leave the house while it's that hot outside. For years now, I haven't left the house in boiling midday summer heat.
I go outside in the twilight. Exclusively in the summer. Even before trooning.

>>42454463
I have been permaboymoding/hrt repping for over five years at this point. I have never told anyone in my IRL life that I'm a tranny besides two people that I do not speak with anymore. I've had friends come out to me as mtf and my stupid self said nothing about myself and acted as a guy in the situation. It's an empty and hopeless feeling, but it's possible to do it for a while. I've lived with my parents throughout all the time and they never said anything

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>>42454463
I'm two years in. I tried girlmoding a few times early on, I am terribly embarrassed by those instances. I will continue to present as male, with a tomboy-ish clothing style.