I'm an extremely dysphoric tranny but I seem to be unaffected by bottom dysphoria despite being extremely bothered by everything else. I also enjoy anal sex (topping) a lot and I feel like nobody understands me. Dysphorics are usually obsessed with their genitals and nondysphorics don't understand crippling dysphoria.
>>42555276Maybe this discussion will make you want to keep it: >>42544805
>>42555276I can relate to this but I'm only nb so faketrans (ev&oe I have crippling dysphoria about most of my body)
>nooooo you have to get your penis surgically altered into a sex hole for receiving penis or you're not a real woman
>>42555276AGAMP>>42557067Correct
I mean, congrats, bottom dysphoria is a bitch too
>>42555276Its ok to stay as a male
>>42555289I've basically already made up my mind about keeping it, it's just hard to justify it to other dysphorics because so many of them seem to be genital-reductionist and are super focused on bottom dysphoria. I want every fucking surgery except SRS. I grew up in an extremely sheltered environment with no siblings and I spent my entire adolescence thinking everyone had a penis. Dicks being the genitals everyone has is literally the default for me on a subconscious level. I've figured this out through tripping on dissociatives like ketamine a lot. If you don't understand how k-holes work, you basically go under and slowly reawaken with your most deep subconscious and core memories/beliefs waking up first and slowly regain everything. The existence of the vagina is extremely late on that hierarchy, and way way later than me feeling I felt wrong as a male and righr as a female. I also hate how much cis women mog me and most trannies like bottoming so I love how I can be the one who tops in a transbian hookup/relationship and be extremely desirable despite feeling like a worthless piece of shit in the rest of my life, and I enjoy it so much I turn into a desperate mess that has to cum so I fuck like my life depends on it. My biggest problem is being ruined by insanely good sex with passoids, and now I feel like I have to adopt crazy beauty standards and obsessive eating, self care, makeup, and exercise habits to be good enough to pull and keep the pretty ones and not the ones that make me feel like I'm fucking a man. I want FFS really bad so I can just ravage passoids every day. I think I might just start fucking men for money so I can save up for surgeries but idk how to become a sex worker.
>>42557089I would rather kill myself. I don't feel male at all but I'm genuinely so psyoped by autism and being sheltered that I don't think genital are gendered. I know logically of fucking course they are but it doesn't feel that way. I want to be a woman with a dick and I want other trannies with extreme dysphoria to not think I'm faketrans because I feel like every other aspect of my body is disgustingly mutilated and wrong
>>42557080AGAMP is valid transness.
same, if anything i believe hrt would give me bottom dysphoria once it ruins my dick, so i havent taken it. I guess im doomed to always feel dysphoric about my body in one way or the other
>>42555276I should make it clear, I do get bottom dysphoria when I bottom, which is why I prefer to top (besides it feeling incredible with the right person). I'm not completely non-bottom dysphoric in this sense, but I also feel like getting SRS just to bottom makes me turbo agp because in every other aspect I am find with a penis and I enjoy topping so much I would miss it if I got surgery. The risk/reward ratio is incredibly skewed towards keeping it and I also kind of feel like SW may be my only viable career option and SRSussy reduces my viability in that industry a lot
I'm afraid of the surgery and I don't have the money either, it's just something I am unable to do.
>>42555276then you're not dysphoric.
>>42557325I'm near a year and a half on high doses of E and I just started prog. My T is fully suppressed. I still get ROCK HARD if I'm super attracted to someone. No atrophy because I get regular erections, almost daily at this point. It's not a death sentence for your dick. If anything I get better erections now because dysphoria isn't constantly wrecking my mood and ability to enjoy sex. I did have a couple months where my libido went away but eventually I adjusted. Prog is also awesome.
>>42557358I just don't view genitals as sexually dimorphic. This is exactly what I mean, bottom dysphoric trannies think I'm faking my dysphoria when being disgusted by what puberty has done to my body takes up the majority of my thoughts to the point it makes it hard to function every day. I'm extremely agoraphobic and I also am afraid of cis women seeing my naked body, but this is in a social dysphoria way and not like everything else which feels like I am in the wrong body. I just don't believe my genitals are what's wrong, but every single other feature is.
>>42557325that girl talkin down talkin down blow her face right out of town
>>42557354yeah I haven't even mentioned risk for complications. My luck is so bad there is no chance I wouldn't somehow get botched
>>42557447>I just don't view genitals as sexually dimorphicnigga it's not an opinion. also you're rationalizing all this stuff you're obviously not dysphoric.
>>42557497Dysphoria makes me extremely suicidal on the daily, it just doesn't apply to my genitals. I'm also willing to accept this may be some turbo dissociation cope as some have suggested but idk what the fuck else to do about constant thoughts about my ribcage or browbone or height or shoulders and feeling like a towering brute next to cis women and feeling like my body was violated my puberty and everyone who forced me to rep. I'm also terrified of PIV because it makes me feel like a man. I guess I do have some bottom dysphoria to some extent but it's so very little and just not enough to justify an expensive surgery. I'm perfectly happy keeping it and continuing the sex life I've been having topping other trannies
I will add that if I had the option to get a functional womb and endocrine system I definitely would want that. I love the sex I've been having but I would love to get pregnant and have a baby and be a mother so much more and it is painful I will never have that.
>>42557555when you say you don't have bottom dysphoria most of the coping pickme sneedhons here are going to assume you mean you want to fuck cis women in the vaggenuinely depressing to see how commonly people assume that any trans woman who isn't trying to literally cut her dick off must be some piv loving rapebeast
>>42557700I want to fuck trannies in the ass
>>42555276I'm the oppositeI have like 0 dysphoria except for my penis, which I do not like to put inside of people or really have other people touch. It was fucking bliss when I started hrt and it got small and useless. Besides that and my AGP I could have been cis.
>>42557601same desu, im like you except i dont like topping or really using my penis for sex, im just not super bothered by itif it was more than just a hole for sex id prob get it but it is what it is yknow
i don't understand at all since i got my penis removed but okay
>>42555276nah there's always a few trans girls that are lucky to have been spared the bottom phoria, they just keep it on the dl on tttt since others get upsetti usually. happy for you up, keep your pp and live your best life
>>42557909this seems to be like one of the most normal phenotypes in t4t relationships. it's either both bottoms (doomed, maybe 10% of short ass relationships), one girl is ok with topping but doesn't really enjoy it that much (becomes obligatory top, 45%), or both girls are ok with topping but don't really like it (they take turns, 45%). I feel like I'm the only one who really fucking loves anal and topping (I do NOT like PIV). I love the way it grips me, I love the way I can be as close as physically possible to someone I am obsessed with, I love the warmth, I love the control, I love the passion. I do have trauma that makes me afraid to bottom but I think it's unrelated because that was recent. The last times I've topped a tranny I've been completely non-dissociated and fully aware of everything and I came extremely hard every time because everything felt right. I love topping in a t4t context because I know she will not view me as a man the same way a cis woman would.
>>42557080>ruin your perfectly good penis and turn it into a dilated womb-less bacteriafest that smells like poop or you arent trutranslol fuck off alicia
>>42557215this is sad but also cute nona. i'm glad you aren't dysphoric. i hope you have a very happy life
>>42561901this is how I feel about srs though (exaggerated). I'm only into men a little bit and not super bottom dysphoric and I feel like a girl with a dick who would feel like a man with a mutilated vagina. If I could have a womb and have children I would 100% get the surgery in a heartbeat
>>42557700NTA but I do absolutely want to fuck cis women in the vag and I won't apologize for it.
>>42561946I'm gonna wife up a transbian and plow her all the time and use all the money I would've wasted on SRS to make her the happiest girl in the world. I still would like ffs and maybe clavicle and ribs but honestly I want to get a future partner or partners at least an orchi and maybe a down payment on a house first so we could live happily together but my hopes to own a home are in the dumpster. maybe a vacation or a few to somewhere beautiful to eventually propose would be nice too. I'll probably have to do sex work to ever afford this because I'm a loser fuck up but whatever it takes
>>42562398malebrained
>>42562419Cis women and trans women fucking is the hottest shit ever and I won't apologize for this view
>>42562412could i be your wifei don't really have money either but we could live humbly and in love
>>42562884she sees you as a "safe" GNC male
>>42562904I already have someone in mind that I think might be the one but I am poly so perhaps if we cross paths someday
>>42562946that's okay. very best to you nona you deserve the world. truly
>>42562911Seethe
>>42561829I feel this so much omg. I used to feel more dysphoric about topping (it was mostly with cis women/theyfabs) but with my current (trans) girlfriend I don't feel any hesitation with it. It's great. I'm super dominant with her and I love it, I feel malebrained for liking penetration this much but I kind of don't care. Once I'm with her and can feel her and be inside her it's so clear that this is right and good.>>42557215>I enjoy it so much I turn into a desperate mess that has to cum so I fuck like my life depends on it. Yes oh my god this goes so hard. When I really get into it I think I moan more than she doesI hope you can grow more confident in yourself nona, you sound really based and I bet you're a lot prettier than you give yourself credit for. Be careful with sex work it can be a lot more soul destroying than you might think at first
>>42563214you guys are so awesome i hope someday i meet a beautiful transbian top like you