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like it's so obvious, and when you point this out they just start going on about how trans women are men and they stole femininity from real wombyn and it's not fair to say transmascs can't be mtf because after all they're real women unlike those dirty masculine males
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>>42555365
trannies stole the whole catgirl/boy shit from tumblr pooners, pooners can steal back
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>>42555372
the puppy shit i mean*
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>>42555372
pooners invented anime?
>>42555376
>source: my poon
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>>42555380
you literally replied to my original comment and correction. also like idk what source you want? don’t be a newfag maybe? this shit was on tumblr way back before most mtfs even knew what being trans was
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>>42555385
>newfag is when you're not a tumblr user
you need to go back.
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>>42555380
source: Szpilka, J. (2025). What Puppygirls Know? The (in)Human Pedagogy of a Trans Feminine Style. Australian Feminist Studies, 1–24. https://doi.org/10.1080/08164649.2025.2556256
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>>42555399
jesus pooners really think citing gender studies papers is making an argument holy
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>>42555365
I'm ftm femboy on t and I would not want to be like you, at all. I like being petite sweet.
I'm a cat you are a dog xD

Pls don't get all dog woman rage on me you big lady
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>>42555390
im here because i’m trying to be malebrained. you’re here because you can’t help but be malebrained
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>erm the gender studies person wrote this and it looks official so i win :)
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>>42555372
I didn't steal shit. I have the soul of a cat girl, it's intrinsic to me.
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>>42555402
>>42555405
>ask for a source
>gets mad when i give a source
i don’t understand this moidrage
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>>42555404
>comes to a majority trans woman space to be more malebrained
what did ze mean by this?
>>42555403
typical pooner, resorting to calling trans women men at the first sign of pushback
you see this a lot when a more privileged group steals the culture of a less privileged one actually- equally as important as drowning out the voices of the original group, is asserting loudly and angrily that you are the true originators of the culture, that what you are doing is not theft but in fact restoring something that the others took from you
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>>42555412
bro is so mad she replied to the wrong person
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>>42555411
>give a source
>gender studies paper with 0 citations
kek
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>>42555417
?
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>>42555418
I’m sorry but Nature doesn’t really publish articles that delve into where puppygirl culture originated from
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>>42555412
>resorting to calling trans women men at the first sign of pushback
Where did I call you men? I called you a dog woman, ain't that mft puppy style?
I'm a kitty so I really don't get what are you barking about? :D meow
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>>42555421
the point is that you think citing a clearly bogus source gives your argument more weight simply because you found something to cite
it's very "i have a specialization in queer transmasculine narratives of underwater basket weaving"
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these retards on twitter have moved on to saying "how come you aren't okay with this but you BOYMODERS AND REPPERS are entitled to respect huh?!"
gives away the game that these losers don't think about the world outside their immediate circles for even a second, because why would you ever insist something so blatantly untrue?
by and large people hate boymoders, they are not broadly welcomed in trans women spaces. we hate them and call them cowards. why the fuck would we make an exception for these dipshits?
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>>42555412
>comes to a majority trans woman space to be more malebrained
>what did ze mean by this?
I think he means that you are very malebrained so its good to learn from you how to behave in more toxic masculine way?
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>>42555424
>please don't get all dog woman rage on me you big lady
>i like being petite
gee, i wonder
are you denying that you resort to calling trans women men at the first sign of pushback? even when you are doing it right in this thread? is the implication that you are a shitty ally problematic for you? i wonder why that is. maybe because you feel some need to give window dressing to the claim that you care about trans identities even as you stomp all over actual trans people for denying your flagrant attempt at co opting their struggles
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>>42555431
genuinely what the fuck am i supposed to cite? i did a preliminary google search and thought it was cool that there even existed a published article mentioning it.
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>>42555431
Its more proof honestly than the other option that you are giving which is "i don't like it so it must not be true"
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>>42555441
>you can't get mad at me for invading your community you BIG VIOLENT MANLY MALE MAN i am very woke
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>>42555449
>nooo you can’t call me a man!!
>i get to call you a “vagina-er” though!
why do you guys sound exactly like incels
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>>42555445
unlike you i actually bothered to read some of it and it doesn't even say what you claimed
let's take a step back and look at what happened
you made some unsubstantiated claim that pooners originated puppygirl aesthetics
you typed that into google, found a study without bothering to read it and linked it, thinking that including some bogus citation would automatically win the argument for you
the source you linked doesn't even back up your original claim
jesus, you need to go back you are such a tumblr birthday boy it hurts
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>>42555372
>trannies stole the whole catgirl/boy shit from tumblr pooners
nope lol try again, it was a cis gay men thing before ur poonblr was even a thing
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>>42555443
Are dog women now men?
I'm petite, yes and I like being that way. Trans women are often very tall big ladies, its you who think its the same as calling you a man, thats on you. Woman is not a size thing :D
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>>42555411
because you’re a woman
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>>42555379
I love seeing my post making numbers lmao
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>>42555469
the fact that you don't think calling trans women unpetite big angry dog ladies is an issue says it all really
this is why nobody wants you in the trans community
you are not trans
you clearly do not empathize with trans experience in any capacity
you are a woman who thinks copying us makes you more unique, it would be laughable if people like you weren't going on to detransition, win millions of dollars in malpractice lawsuits and make transition unobtainable for real trans people
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>>42555449
You are not very fembrained sis :(
>>42555468
Cis gay puppy boy mask play is very different to being yaoi uke kitty boy :D
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>>42555483
you are not very trans sis :(
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>>42555466
pooners. every single time.
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>>42555480
I'm on t and transitioning tho, so I am trans, you like it or not. I think people like cute kitty boys in our community more than hostile barking dog ladies
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>>42555466
> in niche, trans erotic spaces on sites like tumblr
It quite literally says it started on tumblr. that’s more of my point
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>>42555507
only in your little social media bubbles they do
is that why you come here? you can't stand the fact that other queer communities see through your act, so you think you can make them agree with you by just misgendering them enough?
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>>42555510
ok so we have moved from
>pooners invented that
to
>it started on tumblr
are you saying there are no trans women on tumblr? because that is patently false
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>>42555480
>you are not trans
9/10 times you want to show a cissie a passing trans person to prove that trans people all don’t look like gender freaks, you show a picture of a pooner. we’re only trans when convenient
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>>42555517
no? lmao?
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>>42555517
ok so now trans women look like unpassing gender freaks
lovely
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>>42555516
i literally mentioned tumblr in my first post can you stop talking like sherlock holmes if he was written by a redditor
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>>42555524
yes you said pooners on tumblr invented it, then you cited a source saying trans women on tumblr invented it, now you're saying the gender doesn't matter because it happened on tumblr
pooner moment.
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>>42555520
other than hunter schafer you only have pooners to show. sorry but alice in thigh high socks with agp curls isn’t really convincing cissies that trannies should be allowed in the bathroom that matches their gener
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>>42555532
it says transfems were in the community not that they invented it holy reddit
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>>42555523
i mean you guys do tend to pass a lot less than ftms
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>>42555539
never in my life have i seen anyone do this. what pooners? buck angel? who else? trans women have hunter schafer, alex consani, trips on this board, a whole host of internet personalities
where are the people holding up pooners as an example of modern trans people, i have literally never seen that
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>>42555545
you are very transphobic!
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>>42555523
it's so funny how quickly the facade falls. they come in here acting like they're Jesus Christ himself trying to bring us all together in love and harmony but the second you say anything to them they'll be calling you an Amazon Basics skirt AGP rapehon
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>>42555542
no, it literally says trans women created it and pooners remixed it after the fact
are you illiterate?
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>>42555547
the trips on this board don’t pass. also yes, half the time someone brings up the bathroom laws trannies go “what about transmen”. i’m sorry if this is somehow memoryholed from you
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>>42555550
>you have to be nice to me no matter how much i call you a vagina-haver
>if you don’t quietly let me insult you relentlessly without pushback i’m gonna have a tantrum
wow you guys act exactly like men. inc:”., to be more specific.
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>>42555556
i thought this was about passing? why are you bringing up bathroom laws?
>the trips on this board don't pass
lol this should be good. which ones don't pass? does degen pass? mel? ava? tris? do the girls in passgen not pass? go on, show us how you really feel pooner
also as an aside i think it's hilarious that you barge into a community of trans women, start telling them none of them pass and they are all stealing femininity from you, and then expect to be treated respectfully
trans men really are the men of the trans community!
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>>42555556
this isn't a thread about trans men who pass though is it? it's not even about trans men who want to pass. use your pretty little skull to think
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>>42555565
if you cant handle the board lingo then why are you here?
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>>42555555
the “contemporary puppygirl aesthetic” yes bc it is different to what it was 10 years ago. it never even says transwomen created it.
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>>42555574
the OP of the image bitched on twitter about this getting posted here
suddenly all these threads are filled with suspiciously thin skinned moralfags trying really hard to pretend this is their normal stomping ground
but don't you even dare suggest these things could be related. this discussion is entirely organic and not subject to outside influence
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>>42555569
>i thought this was about passing? why are you bringing up bathroom laws?
bathrooms came up before any mention of passing. like are you brain-damaged or something?
>>42555574
that’s not at all the point. i don’t care about mtfs saying “pooner”. i just find it ironic when they use it but then go cry about me not “being woke enough”
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>>42555582
it does though. multiple times. you haven't even bothered to read it at all have you lmao
why did you even post that? you just typed some shit into google and assumed the first result had to agree with you? are you that dumb?
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>>42555512
I have been here for years :) I met my cis dog bf from here. He has a strong bark, woof
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>>42555592
it's so cringey how they have to lie and pretend they're part of the culture
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>>42555565
Big dog women might need a leash :D they keep biting and assuming nobody bites back
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>>42555605
lmao, bet.
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>>42555604
It literally does not. It says transfems took part in puppygirl culture (which i never said they didn’t?) but it doesn’t say they created it or were the first ones to do it. Male ego can’t handle to be wrong I guess.
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>>42555621
why are you replying to yourself poon poon?
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>>42555592
>thin skinned moralfags
like the ones crying about pooners not being sensitive enough to the trannyfeels?
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>>42555616
Person who made the op pic is on t and actovely transitioning.
>Nooo only those who are on hrt and I approve of are actually transitioning!
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>>42555626
you’re schizo, luna
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>>42555626
No. I'm the kitty boy ftm :3
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>>42555592
>hard to pretend this is their normal stomping ground
aww, i love how you this 4chan is some epic super secret internet club for only the most dangerous hax0rs 1337s!1!!!!1
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>>42555616
it's always been such a blight on this board. these people make themselves so obvious to everyone here but themselves. they think of us the way some people think of NPCs, they think we're literally too stupid to connect point A to point B even when all the evidence is right in front of all of us
I just don't get why they can't stick to themselves. they have everywhere else, why is it not enough for them? why must they control the narrative in the literally darkest gutters of society as well? I resent it
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>>42555623
ok, so why don't you point me to the part where it says trans men invented puppygirls?
>Male ego can't handle to be wrong I guess
pooner moment.
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>>42555648
because don't you know? only afabs can be queer.
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>>42555647
not what that person said? it's pretty obvious you're not from here. i bet you don't even know who degen is.
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>>42555365
I think I would believe you if it wasn't the same 5 doods being posted.
I don't know any mtf in my life, and I find it hard to meet them outside of this board due to a lack shared hobbies or interests. We like differing anime, Youtubers, preferred locations, even our video game selection looks way different. From the ftm I have met, maybe only 4% make the "wannabe tgirl" cut. And even that's a bit of a stretch.... I assume this is more about being antagonistic toward poons rather than questioning groups that want to be trans women (white gays who do drag and lift half their personalities from black dolls).
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>>42555649
>claims article says trannies waz puppygurlz multiple times
>quickly shift goal posts to if pooners invented it
My point: it came from tumblr. I can’t prove if troons or poons made it and neither can you. Just most likely, tumblr users are usually poons and any existing communities there would be created by and inhabited by transmen as transwomen are much more of a minority (esp back then). I am not claiming authoritatively that transmen made it, just giving some evidence to show why it might be likely. I do not understand why this is hard to get
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>>42555483
>Cis gay puppy boy mask play is very different to being yaoi uke kitty boy :D
it isn't, submission and dominance mixed with petplay is again, a key pillar of the kinky side of the gay community. Maybe you should do your research, considering you're trying to insert into a community you don't belong, instead of just jerking off to drawings of japanese little boys miss. ^^
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>>42555670
>i can't prove if troons or poons made it
this you? >>42555372 >>42555376
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>>42555660
i filter out namefags but i go in /passgen/ a few times a week and like there are one or two of you pass at most. i can see the pictures you guys put online you know?
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>>42555660
pulling the "umm you think it secret hacker club xD" card is literally the most dead giveaway for this kind of thing too
like hey dipshit, no one's saying you've never heard of 4chan. they talk about 4chan on NPR now. of course you know the website, everyone does. but that doesn't make you from here, and everyone can usually tell
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>>42555671
watch, she's going to call you an angry man again
why do pooners always sound indistinguishable from terfs? is terf socialization real?
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>>42555676
Yes. I claim that. I cannot prove my claim. I admit that. This is not something that can easily be proven. Holy fucking reddit. Go back to r/4tran4
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>>42555679
right like it's so obvious they're going off of a twitter user's idea of what 4chan users think
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>>42555683
so you've just been talking out of your ass this entire time, misgendering trans women along the way and saying they are stealing from pooners (your words not mine) while offering no proof for any of your claims
why not just admit you hate trans women? why all the mental gymnastics?
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>>42555679
>>42555685
you realize nearly all of this board is reddit and twitter users right?
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>>42555689
Dude again I don’t really care for all the shit you guys say about pooners why do you guys cry at the slightest shit like I killed your family or something. Crybully behavior is malebrained
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>>42555690
you realize we all know who the newfags are right?
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>>42555726
all of you joined after 2020
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>>42555714
there you go again, misgendering trans women in response to criticism.
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>>42555730
lol, no. is that really what you think? anyone who was here in 2020 is an oldfag? jesus, you need to go back.
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>>42555731
>i get to call you pooner but you cant say “guys”
sorry i meant penised-individuals. is that better?
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>>42555736
Where did I say that, dear?
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>>42555372
Do you live in the PNW? Also have you had 8 concussions and a raging kratom addiction? Because you sound like someone I used to know.
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>>42555757
Why do transfems think that there are only like 3 pooners in existence
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>>42555748
you brought up joining after 2020 as if being here in 2020 makes someone an oldfag. i thought it was pretty obvious.
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>>42555372
>>42555649
>>42555670
>Trans women made it!
>Trans men made it!
It was cis people drawing anime people (mostly women, sometimes men). Trans people just ran with it because we love anime and relate to the dehumanization it comes with. Nekomimi nonfurries IRL could potentially be linked back to therians, which Tumblr had a lot of.
I'm surprised this is even an argument, how old are you people? Was your first anime Re:Zero?
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>>42555771
>five is bigger than three
>ermm are you saying four is smaller than three???
how to cure this retardation?
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>>42555772
they were talking about puppygirls specifically but i see your point, xe seems to think tumblr afab transmascs invented anime
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>>42555779
>afab transmascs
as opposed to amab transmascs? you’re seething with so much rage you’re just saying random words
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>>42555777
so are you the person who was posting about le 1337 u83r h4xx0r5 or are you just being annoying for no reason
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>>42555379
kinda real, they can fucking take femboy slop that shit needs to burn in hell but everything pooners do is so inherently performative it's grating, i've literally interacted with multiple for decent amounts of time who used full /tttt/speak and acted on shit like theyd been transitioned for at least several years before they sooner or later revealed they refuse to or "havent yet" gone on hrt. if you utter a word of 4chan tranny terminology as a cissoid (which you are until you take hrt) without a direct tangible link to it you're fucking insane.

i just avoid pooners now because of that, i wouldn't want to but being so utterly performative it looks like you stop existing when people aren't around is too much and cissoids that obsess over trannies are subhuman always, ppl make jokes about it being feminine but even the cattiest stereotype of a woman has basic tact

>>42555604
nona they say "transfem" and "transwomen" without the space and end all their posts with a malding forced troll jab just ignore the baitlord
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>>42555794
>you found the joke
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>>42555795
i just think you’re retarded
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>>42555682
I don't care what she calls me nona, I just can't stand afabs thinking they invented being queer when everything from "afab queerness" is a bad copy of amab queerness - from dykes "mimicking" stud men to the new generation of ftms copying femboys.
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>>42555798
salty because you joined in 2020? DAE miss the epic contrapoints toob ms paint drawing??? XDDD does mel and degen stil post here :000
i am very oldfag
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>>42555804
you're not the only one. this is why i still come here, it's the only place online where mtfs are allowed to point out this obvious bullshit
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>>42555811
the only place where poor mtfs can talk about how much they hate black people
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>>42555808
I think the two of you should both stop because you're each digging your respective holes deeper
like, they're a retard with no reading comprehension but you're not exactly making a great case for yourself belonging here either
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>>42555808
i didn’t use 4chan back in 2020 because i was 12. i only started e in 2022 anyway. i just think you’re retarded
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>>42555671
>it isn't, submission and dominance mixed with petplay is again, a key pillar of the kinky side of the gay community
You don't clearly know what kitty uke boys are :D not what you think
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>>42555811
it's true, irl spaces are just gone, they kicked us off the gay male scene (and like... failed miserably, gay men don't like poon - even if they're not outright as terfy as lesbians are) and then gatekept lesbian spaces (which doesn't affect me, but it's shocking to see how openly terfy you can be if it's against MtFs) and when we made trans spaces for ourselves, theyfabs also stole them - even changed "transsexuality" to transgenderism because they're not changing shit.

>>42555820
no one pulls the race card faster than a white afab when they realize they got no arguments
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>>42555769
Idk you kinda just act like the PNW stereotype i’ve encountered a lot in my life. I can’t really say I’m any better — I’m a weed-addicted transbian brick who makes dogshit screamo music; i’ve got plenty of problems in my life — but I just feel like there’s more anger coming from you than there is from the transfems you’re afraid of.
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>>42555838
it's a worse version of what gay men had already invented. Like mixing water with your mustard. It's straight sex with both parties using he/him pronouns.
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>>42555682
Why are you misgendering me? I have not called anyone with wrong gender. Maybe its part of being dog woman to put others down like that while accusing others from doing it. Typical
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>>42555852
They’re jealous that you’re AFAB
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>>42555689
>misgendering trans women along
Only kitty boys have been misgendered here :p
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>>42555838
Why do trans people want this stuff in our culture AT ALL? Animal comparisons almost never end well for minorities, and we are minorities. Is this not something that we should be distancing ourselves from...?
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>>42555661
>one (1) tranny does something bad
>well ALL trannies are like that
>several pooners do something bad
>well, obviously a small sample
what causes this cognitive dissonance?
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>>42555849
Omg you have no idea what you talking about :D
>>42555858
Maybe, it seems so. I get that alot
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>>42555896
actually like most of the people claiming to be pooners here are mtfs including me.
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>>42555682
>why do pooners always sound indistinguishable from terfs
because they ARE terfs lmao. it's not by accident terfs only seethe over trans women, the vast majority of them are pooners
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>>42555896
>Several trannies do something bad
>You are being transmisogynistic, shut up about it! It does not matter!
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>>42555912
case in point
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>>42555841
I remember when I was starting out a little over ten years ago, spending a lot of time in the gay scene irl by default more than anything. it wasn't a perfect fit, it was a little awkward in a lot of ways, but there were so few of us in the community that you'd generally be the only tranny in the room and probably the first tranny a lot of people would ever meet. people who had a problem with it could easily ignore you and keep to themselves
more and more people started to come out over time, obviously, but in the gay scene it didn't manifest in more trans women showing up, it was all trans guys. and by and large they fucking HATED that I was involved. they would couch it in concern "umm, you're misgendering yourself that's not valid!" but if you didn't cave and leave immediately it became very clear that they viewed me as competition and made them feel bad because I was getting more play with gay men than them
I guess I don't really have a point with all this. I guess I'm just frustrated. I miss the old world, time has turned me into a bitter old grouch
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>>42555896
I didn't I say 'a trans woman did something wrong so they are all bad'. If anything I'm judging OP. Those other replies aren't me either.
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>>42555915
>pooners see some poor twinkhon calling herself he/him
>tell her to use she/her
>this means pooners are satan
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>>42555934
trannies treat pooners like men treat women and pooners treat trannies like women treat men. transitioning is a meme, not even other trannies see you as a woman :(
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>>42555900
>Omg you have no idea what you talking about :D
You're embarrassing yourself, you don't even know the origins of your "side" of the community.

>>42555915
I get exactly what you're saying. My boyfriend is cis but very openly queer, and we met over the fact we're both feminine in our own ways, and we fell in love over similar interests, mutual understanding, feeling loved by someone similar... Like, I don't wanna exclude anyone, but what does a gay FtM have in common with a gay cis guy? Why do they go to spaces they don't belong to and kick the people who helped making the spaces? Like what you're saying is true, FtMs SEE MtFs as competition and this is why they are like this against us, while not realizing queer men won't prefer masculine afabs to feminine amabs in 90% of times because it's more than presentation, it's the understanding that comes with it.
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>>42555934
holy misread of what was written, op was talking about how she found a home with queer men because they understand what it's like to be amab and left out because of how you are, and then the space was co-opted by afabs who think they know better, so she was kicked out because pooners felt threatened by men liking her more. Did we not read the same post??
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>>42555953
why are you arguing that trans women are men and trans men are women
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>>42555915
I'm sure you were pulling more gay men if you looked more moidy. How evil are poons for calling a woman a she :D
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>129 replies
this could've been avoided if you stopped taking pooners and their defenders seriously. pooners are trenders and their defenders are self hating mtfs who think defending afabs and shitting over other mtfs will get them a free pass into real womanhood
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>>42555986
>lateshit neverpasser hon hands wrote this post
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>>42555953
>while not realizing queer men won't prefer masculine afabs to feminine amabs in 90% of times
Not actually true. Even gay men and lesbian are more willing to date "masculine afabs" vs "feminine amabs" someone could post the stats of that one study that studied it.
Lots of projection there.
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>>42555972
I'm arguing that socialization is important, trans women are women and trans men are men (occasionally), but it's also important to acknowledge that trying to emulate being an awkward gay boy like most of us were growing up doesn't actually make you one, and you can't expect to be welcome in spaces that aren't for you. Isn't this what y'all say about trans lesbians? In fact, when you say trans lesbians most people think of trans lesbian afab non binaries and trans men than they do of trans women lol.
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>>42555986
their “defenders” are people who found out you can easily ragebait this board by larping as a pooner and saying literally anything
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>>42556003
This simply isn't true in irl spaces, I've been in them since forever, sorry xoxo
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>>42555934
>>42555975
I think you guys will notice I didn't say I think those guys are evil and for clarity, I've never used he/him pronouns for my entire adult life. you seem to be imagining a completely different scenario and maybe don't get the social scenes were like before being trans really hit the mainstream in a major way. it was never ideal but we all had to make do
those guys did what they did out of bitterness and hurt, and now I'm bitte and hurt and it sucks. it just sucks, man. sorry if that comes off as an attack to you
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>>42556004
> Isn't this what y'all say about trans lesbians?
weren’t you just crying about how people overgeneralize trans women or smth
>most people think of trans lesbian afab non binaries and trans men
i don’t? you’re just fighting ghosts atp this is psychosis
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>>42556011
I have a very different irl experience xD
Sorry xx
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>>42556014
i’m a youngshit i’m sorry i don’t know what life was like for true transsexual transvestites at stonewall back in ‘87 or whatever
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>>42556014
>you seem to be imagining a completely different scenario
Hmm
>>42555915
>umm, you're misgendering yourself that's not valid
You are mad that they saw you as a woman

Btw I'm not a poon :)
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>>42556030
I didn't call you a poon. this was not meant to be a confrontational post, I just related an experience and admitted I feel very conflicted about it. again I'm sorry you feel the need to be on the defense about it

>>42555969
this makes me feel like I at least managed to somewhat get my feelings across even if it's coming off the wrong way to other people, thank you
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>>42555365
Why has there been so much Mtf vs Ftm stuff lately I don't even talk to other trannies ousside
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>>42556073
Few troons keep spamming constantly about it
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>>42556073
I dunno anon I’ve been watching this schizo shadow boxing thread and ngl its a very interesting back and forth but desu I’ve got no doggies in this fight I want people to just get along
>stay smart it’s ruff out there ;}
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>>42556003
pooners always bring up their silly little studies because they have no irl lived experience as a queer person lmao
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>>42555986
TRVKE
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why is it that most pooners will both defend the point that mtfs should stay away from lesbians while also flipping their shit at the implication that gay men don't want ftms?
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>>42556079
>>42556128
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>>42556160
What.....
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>>42556133
I'm a woman and pretty masculine looking at that. Pretty sure I have more experience from those circles than you
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>>42556160
Thats totally what most trans men are saying (sarcasm)
Idk you can keep your gay men if you want them so much, they are not that special
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>>42556170
>i grow out my upper lip hairs so i know what being called a faggot is like
kek
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>>42555399
ur """source""" outright states "it is not my intent to attempt an archeology of the puppygirl".
this simply is not an investigation into the phenomenon's origin. completely irrelevant.

and actually, the only mention of transmascs in the entire paper is an offhand footnote mentioning some pornstar who "remixed" the aesthetic. meanwhile the entire paper links transfemininity to puppgirlism - which it describes as "a kinky erotic style, developed in online trans feminine spaces".

r u sure u think trannies copied pooners on this?? and this is the source u used to come that conclusion??? get real

>>42555445
ah there we go. u googled for a paper about puppygirls and didnt even skim the abstract.
>source: my poon

>>42555510
Full quoted sentence:
>It resonates with Ana Valens’ account of her own participation in niche, trans erotic spaces on sites like tumblr (2020), and their importance for the development of her own sense of gendered and sexual self.

you literally just ctrl f'd the article for "tumblr", desperate to have ur preconception validated. couldnt even be bothered reading the full sentence and seeing this is referencing another author's book that isnt even about puppygirls.
maybe go back to gooning to c.ai all day if you're incapable of actually reading anything challenging to your viewpoints.

>>42555670
mm clearly you first saw the concept on your gooner tumblr porn and instinctively assume it must have been invented there. lmao. is your brain completely devoid of thought.
hey i know, maybe if you lean a liiiitle bit more into the transphobia you'll finally be a cool edgy 4chan epic trollz malebrained dood and you can forget that you've thoroughly embarrased yourself throughout this thread.
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>>42556021
“Gay men looooove my poon!” >w< ok bro
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>>42556210
im so glad someone else noticed like that was literally wild
xe must have just googled 'trans men on tumblr invented puppgirl aesthetics' or something and assumed the first result backed xir up
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>>42556199
I cannot grow body hair or a moustache, I'm a female
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>>42556225
>i am very masculine
lmao
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>>42556218
they do actually, no need to be so weird about it
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>>42556238
xim literally cut xer hair in a buzz cut okay, its the epitome of being masc dude
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>>42556245
genuinely gross person, also stop falling for bisexual chasers who say they’re gay to fuck theyfabs
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>>42556251
I'm a masculine woman
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>>42556260
pointing this out is transphobic btw
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>>42556016
>weren’t you just crying about how people overgeneralize trans women
wasn't me, nor I care that much
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>>42556272
oh ok let me fix it for you
>i'm ugly so i know what being a faggot is like
lmfao
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>>42556276
Of course you are misogynistic and homophobic, thats pretty normal for trans women it seems
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>>42556272
I'm sure u are dood, you're one of the boys fr fr
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>>42556295
ur in the wrong place for this crybully shit lmao, go back.
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>>42556295
go back to xitter and poonblr, you clearly don't belong here
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>>42555365
We're not human. That's it. If you actually cared about the well-being of transsexuals you'd be agitating for euthanasia instead of pushing fir otc hrt for everyone.
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>>42556315
I have been here longer than you <3
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>>42556518
yeah I'm sure poonbro
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>>42556518
bet.
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>>42556546
Yep :)
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>>42556554
then tell me who degen is
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>>42556554
quick, /clg/ needs you to fake a tranny samefag!
>>42556557
this one is deranged, just fair warning. i think she actually stalks trannies for fun bc her life is so empty
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>>42556557
She used to be ratboygenius and transitioned from being here to living a better life, very lithe, ffs did wonders I’m jelly as fuck
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>>42556585
>very lithe
like i said, deranged. this is a genuine sexual predator, folks. i think she was even here when jeff used the place
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>>42556557
The brunette that looks developmentally disabled? Also how the hell is Degen considered oldfag shit now. What about Ksenia or Carmen?
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>>42556603
I’m not that anon from before genuinely she’s like ana but I felt weird saying that bc I have my own ed issues, srry fren
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>>42555365
NOBODY and I mean NOBODY wants to be a gorss ogre agp who is seen as nothing but a walking rape stick, who looks like a male and will forever be AMAB. afab is superiror to amabs in every single way, nobody wants to be you hon, that, I can 100 percent assure you. . . kinda wishing afabs would stop letting hulking gorillahons engage in any type of sexual act with them... moids are braindead and cannot pleasure they afab body and females dont get pleasure from penetration.
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>>42556657
the board being 18+ doesn't mean you should post your weird inferiority kinks anon
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>>42556657
looks like we buck broke the "masculine woman"
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>>42556073
specifically recently it's because some pooner from tumblr keeps making bait threads that devolve into hating boymoders and stuff
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>>42556666
lmfao, right
im afab and a cis lesbian try again, just cuz all the mtf moids on here are self hating pathetic retards who try to make themselves the victim all the time doesn't mean thats what I am. cull all moids.
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>>42556666
chect and rect
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>>42556681
>'bort
this isn't tiktok, you know. you can say "abort" here
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>>42556003
just blatantly untrue historically
source: pederasty you retard
there was no such desire for bearded fat ladies with hairy tits
instead the men of antiquity raped normal women and girlish young boys because they looked female enough
even the appearance of historically handsome men were largely beardless almost neotenous men
t. pooner who has a brain in xir tiny female skull
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>>42556690
ik dummy retard its meant to be funny like how people say 'log to mean catalog ... abort all males duh
baby unalive stage moids
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>>42556681
>im afab
>and a CIS lesbian
terf calling herself afab and cis in the same sentence...
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>>42556030
>umm, you're misgendering yourself that's not valid
>You are mad that they saw you as a woman
actually if you have the reading skills of a 6th grader you can tell that what she's mad about is being kicked out of queer spaces she had been in for years at that point by trans men, "you shouldn't be here because you're misgendering yourself" is only the justification that was used to kick her out
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>>42555365
I’m a twink/femboy on HRT and people keep mistaking me for an FTM. Maybe because boobs and a thin waist

Also because if questioned on gender I proclaim myself to be a man and that somehow comes off as very ftm
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>>42556666
holy based, quads of truth
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>>42556668
I'm the masculine women. This is a different anon :)
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>>42556698
>Source: pederasty
Molesting teen girls and little girl children has always been way more common. What are you on? Feminine adult men don't look like young boys, adult trans man is more likely to look like he is 15y than any amab.
>there was no such desire for bearded fat ladies with hairy tits
I don't think there is any demographic who would not like a tomboy or a twink poon. Most people don't like people with a penis.
>almost neotenous men
Pretty much only ftms and afabs can be neotenous. Going throuth male puberty as your first puberty will deform your skull and body to a permanently old and haggy looking unless you are very lucky
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>>42556674
>psyop
I'm genuinely not surprised at this point lots of larping on tttt lately. It's all very repetitive, too.
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>>42556865
pooners do not look like twinks
most pooners are fat and hairy
even pre-t they are just fat with no body hair to speak of
immediately less fuckable than a normal woman or a cute lanky 20 year old mtf
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>>42556954
>pooners do not look like twinks
Pooners do look like twinks but its true that its more common that they just look like cute adolescent boys
Men prefer pretty + vagina combo
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>>42555365
I’m so tired of people larping
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>>42556954
T should make you lose weight
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>>42557073
it should but most pooners are retarded body pozzed retards who think the increased hunger they experience on test is their sign to engorge themselves on fast food or else they'll lidurally starve
instead its their body thinking its going to have a growth spurt
it does cause a growth spurt for these doods, just horizontally
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>>42556979
>Pooners do look like twinks
oml a skinny woman is not the same as a fucking twink, give me a break pooner
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>>42557106
Sorry you look old and ugly
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>>42557110
i kinda wish I looked older now that you mention it. I don't like being IDed for monster energy
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>>42557142
>kinda wish I looked older now
Don't worry, you do. Its your long midface, long philtrum and deepset eyes doing that
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>>42557396
if ur trying to give me brainworms it's going to fall flat, I think afabs are the most unfuckable creatures out there and ur opinions matters very little to me
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>>42556674
How can anyone hate boymoders we keep to ourselves
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>>42557484
I can feel the honseethe seeking out of this post
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>>42555379
>they copied the alternative scene obsession
No that is exclusively a woman thing.
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>>42555403
Based
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>>42557600
no I just present(ed) for men only, and I have a loving boyfriend now, so this is whatever for me
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>>42555412
>resorting to calling trans women men at the first sign of pushback
He called you a dog woman not a man.



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