Does HRT stop ANDROGENIC ALOPECIA (MALE PATTERN BALDNESS)I am a NORWOOD 2REDDIT says you will regrow any HAIR LOSS from the past SIX YEARS
>>42556671they lied
>>42556671Nope, start saving up for a hair transplant unless you genuinely have some level of dysphoria
baby don't fear the reaper
>>42556671>stopyes (unless you're taking progesterone and you're someone prone to suffer with DHT/androgen backdoor pathway)>regrowits not a guarantee. there is chance of that. some people did get regrowth, and its easier to get on the crown area, harder on the temples, but its not for sure. there are people that will only stop the recession, but wont get new hair. only minoxidil can assure you regrowth while you're taking it
>>42556671it will stop hair loss and it might regrow some but its not magicalso dont even think about it if youre not a tranny
What if I don't have bald spots but some of my hairs have thinned into baby hairs, will those mature?>>42556801>>42556722Cis man with Peter Pan syndrome. Valid?
>>42556875If it's just thinning then yes, your hair will come back.
>>42556671your hair will not come back unless youre a genetic freak. they lied or overexaggerated their own results or omitted the fact that transplants/minoxidil are necessary
>>42556671AHAHAHA
>>42556671I got raped by the norwood reaper, here is what I have been able to find out. > 1. If your follicles are still growing hairs, there is hope. If the area is completely bald, and when you look at it with a microscope you see nothing but scarred over follicles. They will not grow back and you will need a transplant if you want coverage in that area. > 2. It takes a long time for follicles to die, and it takes a long time for them to recover. This is where the 6 to 8 year guidance comes from. > 3. When you remove DHT (either through testosterone supression or something like Finestaride) the hairs go through mini growth phases lastin 6-12 months then shed the hair. This means your recovering hair wont grow past an inch or two long while it is recovering. > 4. It will take 4-8 years to fully see what is going to come back and what wont. The longer your hair has been damaged the longer it will take to come back if it is going to come back. In my own experience (I went norwood 6), nearly everything that was peach fuzz has turned into 1-2" long recovering hairs. Over the past 3 years of HRT, density has been slowly increasing but length has not yet. When I put a microscope on the area as recently as last week I am continuing to see hairs that are thin and clear on the end, then thicken and darken at the base, aka hairs that are in the initial stage of healing. As others have said, don't go on HRT for the hair benefits. That shit rewires your brain to be female and that is going to break your mind if you don't want that.
>>42559333>That shit rewires your brain to be female and that is going to break your mind if you don't want thatcant stress this enough. i went on hrt to pre-empt the reaper and now i'm a misogynist with a woman's brain (not fun)
>>42559333how do you know if your mind is broken because you shouldn't have a female brain or because you're a neverpasser?
>>42559333>>42559358How does it change your personality/thoughts? Any examples?Will I still keep my same taste in media/music, hobbies, etc?Can I still larp as an unemotional robot as I do in my day-to-day?To clarify I do have dysphoria beyond hair loss, but I don't want to girlmode
>>42556671Yes, but regrowth is variable so you need a lot of e (high dose injections or 10mg+ sub e per day) and a lot of time without hair transplant + dutasteride
>>42559537You will notice your brain working differently, you will notice testosterone supported emotions missing while at the same time notice new estrogen supported emotions and more emotionality in general. If you aren't looking for this it will feel like you are losing control of yourself. >>42560104It changes everything, it changes how base consciousness feels. I can't visually imagine things as well as I could before (I design things for fun). I am a lot more able to understand my emotions and compartmentalize my emotions. Hunger is a lot more debilitating. Fear is a lot more debilitating. I don't care about maintaining my male status as much. I don't like getting in confrontations anymore, I no longer have that righteous anger. When I get overwhelmed by a situation instead of getting pissed I want to break down and cry about it. I cry a heck of a lot more. Emotions hit like something fierce. Different things feel satisfying now, and different things feel repulsive now. Who knows if you will keep your hobbies. It might be you keep them but you are interested in them for different reasons. It might be your hear different things in the music, or it might be that the music speaks to you different. I went through a revolution where I had to rewatch all my favorite shows because I realized I was picking up so many more expressions in the actors. You might find LARPing as a robot is masking to suppress feminine tendencies or disassociation to get away from dysphoria. It's a lot harder to be emotionless, imo.Of course your personal mileage might vary but this is some stuff off the top of my head. >Oh and orgasms/libido/sexual response feels waaaaay different
You have to pound DHT blockers in your late teens otherwise you're doomed to bald
>>42560717What's a high dose on estradiol monotherapy? I was told to start off at 5mg>>42560899>I can't visually imagine things as well as I could before (I design things for fun)I'm not artistically inclined, so I'm fine with this>I am a lot more able to understand my emotions and compartmentalize my emotionsThis seems like a great benefit, I assume it also helps with empathy? It's something I really struggle with>I don't care about maintaining my male status as much. I don't like getting in confrontations anymore, I no longer have that righteous angerI never cared about portraying masculinity since everyone always viewed me as a wimpy faggotI was never confrontational either... Though what do you mean by righteous anger? I don't think I've ever felt something akin to that>When I get overwhelmed by a situation instead of getting pissed I want to break down and cry about it. I cry a heck of a lot more. Emotions hit like something fierce.Last time I cried I was twelve years old so this sounds a little scary to me.>You might find LARPing as a robot is masking to suppress feminine tendencies or disassociation to get away from dysphoriaI don't consider myself feminine in any way... I actually wouldn't even consider myself a trans woman. I don't care much about embodying either gender but that might be the autism talking>>Oh and orgasms/libido/sexual response feels waaaaay differentOk I don't know if this is a retarded question but do you think I should've tried to experiment with typical cishet relationships/sex before considering transition? Not as a sort of cope, but just to have that knowledge/experience before having it barred from me (though I still plan on presenting as male)Anyways this was all really insightful, thank you nona
>>42562320>I'm not artistically inclined, so I'm fine with thisI'm not really arty either, but I can't visualize things like I could before. That ability has gone missing. >Though what do you mean by righteous anger? I don't think I've ever felt something akin to that"This person has made an inexcusable fuck up, or is a fuck up, and I am going to be the thing that makes them pay for it">Last time I cried I was twelve years old so this sounds a little scary to me.It honestly is a little scary. I feel like I am going to have panic attacks sometimes when too much shit goes wrong at once. At the very least I have a ton of emotions. The thing is... having a good cry and feeling better afterward is still a thing. It's just scary to go through the emotions to get there. >I don't consider myself feminine in any way... I actually wouldn't even consider myself a trans woman. I don't care much about embodying either gender but that might be the autism talkingI became like this from repressing. When you take the lid off that one you might be surprised.>Ok I don't know if this is a retarded question but do you think I should've tried to experiment with typical cishet relationships/sex before considering transition? Not as a sort of cope, but just to have that knowledge/experience before having it barred from me (though I still plan on presenting as male)Personally I completely agree with the angle you are taking and I think it is part of the trans endowment. We get to know what life is like as both genders, and it seems absolutely silly to me to not experience that in the fullest. Especially when transition is a one way street. I wouldn't hold up transitioning for it though. I found my experience to be deeply unfulfilling and invalidating. I do know how it feels though. I'm happy to help!
>>42556671Yes and with minox and fin I reversed almost all of my hair loss 4 years in. I was almost entirely bald other than my widows peak and a thin strap between my front and back band spots. I started hormones 3 years ago at 31 and most of the hair that is or has regrown fell out at 22/23It's honestly wild I didn't think I would get this and I thought I would be stuck man moding. When it finishes filling in I'm going to post my results and maybe see if I can get a job shilling Finn and minox
>>42563217>I started hormones 3 years ago at 31 and most of the hair that is or has regrown fell out at 22/23thats nearly a decade!so what you are telling me is that with diffuse thinning not happening until 30 i can mono e for a few years starting at 33 and if it doesn't work i can min/fin later and i dont have to gamble with side effects right away?
I cannot hear Norwood without thinking of smiling friends ANYWAYS. When I started hrt I was 23, I had a head full of hair but the very edges where just beginning to recede, hrt had baby hair growing there within a year and now its completely filled im like normal. It can work. That said I basically have the ideal genes for being a tranny aside from breastfeeding i be rocking a mean b cup after like 3 years hrt.
>>42556671at norwood 2, minox and DHT blocker and youll be good.
>>42564477does E block DHT anyway
>>42560104So in my personal experience>before hrtKinda stand offish, super autist about some special interests, dont cry often, not very in touch with my emotions, anger outbursts sometimes when life fucks me over, attracted to men sexually byt romantically and sexually into women>after several yearsI cry way more now, still autist abiut my special interests but have developed some fashion related interests as well(could be because I enjoy the way I look now but worth mentioning), I am more in tune with my emotions, attracted to almost exclusively men emotionally and sexually(i would never date a woman but have like a 5% chance to entertain a hook up), my anger outbursts have turned into emotional fits where I mainly cry more than rage trading.Estrogen WILL change how your brain works on an emotional level, as far as your interests it wont affect it much. One interesting thing, and this could just be because I had a baby sometime after trooning out is how much more I love cute things now. Cute babies, puppy's, kittens, sweet little things, tiny animals, just in general little tiny things that need mamas I absolutely adore. It hits like a dinosaur instinct for me to give them love and support and kindness. Anyways, your milage may vary. As I said in my last post I had the genes to be a tranny. Ive always been a feminine person so it more or less just unlocked a part of me that was always there in some ways.
>>42560717Beware: high dose estrogen too often can cause cancer. Get in safe levels, fluctuations can be good but always having too much is going to fuck shit up.
>>42564524It supresses so much T production there isnt much to convert to DHT
>>42559358Okay but sometimes I'm a woman with a woman's brain and that's fun and other times I'm a pissy boy with a woman's brain and that's not fun (grrr)
Post hairline. Heres mine
>>42566020grim
>>42556671No, but it will stop FURTHER Degradation. Paired with Minoxidil you can maintain your hair, at the current state. Plus with DHT blockers you can even regrow (Finasteride) and progesterone.
>>42567173>No, but>Plus with DHT blockersE doesn't block DHT?
>>42569758E is estrogen it has nothing to do with DHT or its 5a inhibitors ya dumbo
>>42569821>Does HRT stop ANDROGENIC ALOPECIA >No, but> DHT blockers you can even regrowwhat about finasteride would make you regrow hair that full supression of test by estrogen would not ?
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>>42567173This is bullshit.DHT is what cuts off blood flow to hair follicles and causes them to shrink and die. DHT is made by converting Testosterone. -so-You either suppress your testosterone to the point there isn't much to convert to DHT or you take something like Finestaride to inhibit testosterone being converted to DHT.Once the DHT is suppressed, your follicles have unrestricted access to blood flow, this should mean they regenerate to their normal terminal state. There are some hair doctors that say they wont but there is a stem cell in there so they should be able to fully regenerate once they start getting the oxygen and nutrients they need. This does not happen fast though, it can take 5+ years. To speed things up you can use a stimulant like Minoxidil but then the hairs will become dependent on that the same you become dependent on caffeine. I'm a minoxidil user and my hypothesis is that if I go really slow I am going to be able to wean my hairs off of it.>>42569846Some people have follicles that are extremely sensitive to DHT and even having T levels in a cisfem range means that enough T is getting converted into DHT to affect them. This is where fin or dut can help.
>>42569821Based retard E suppresses T which DHT needs be created Low t = low DHT Estradiol is beneficial for hair follicular health
>>42560104>Can I still larp as an unemotional robot as I do in my day-to-day?lol no. or maybe, idk maybe you're different, but i couldn't even if i wanted to. i cry so easily and it's SO hard to stop it from happening. i'll cry in the middle of a busy mall or at school and so on. and it's not just from sadness, it's from positive emotions too
stops and can potentially reverse with limited effect, should be paired with 5ar inhibitor like fina/duta
>>42571674Oh god... this.I remember when I was HRT manmoding at work (I work with construction type folks). Somebody showed us some video that had me laughing so hard I started crying. So there I am unable to stop laughing or crying and all the dudes are staring at me like I had three heads.
