What the hell should a tranny who's been saddled with (thankfully non-exclusive) attraction to children do? Never ever act on it and never tell a soul outside of anonymous forums of course, but aside from that?
>>42564272Kill your self pedo scum
How young are we talking about? I don't have any advice, I'm just wondering
>>42564300Not very small ones, but from some time around puberty or a little before. Thankfully, I'm mainly attracted to adults, but it's still mortifying.
I try to distance myself because people know unfortunately, but I've been going to therapy for that reason
>>42564348How do they know?
>>42564362Because I vented to my ex about it and when we broke up, she told on me as well as fabricating false allegations against me to try and get me to kms
>>42564646See, that kind of thing is why I figure I should probably never breathe a word about it to anyone except anonymously. Even to a therapist I'm afraid it could fall under the "danger to oneself or others" clause if they're insufficiently convinced of my determination never to act on it.
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>>42564272kill yourself rapehon
>>42564272boys or girls?
>>42564711I swear I'm describing my honest experience! I'm just as morally horrified by it as you are (as I said, I'm strongly determined to never act on it), but I can't control who I do and don't feel attraction to.>>42564944Either.
>>42564340puberty means not a child. its actually base human sexuality to be attracted to people going through puberty. which is exactly how its not exclusive btw. because you're attracted to two different groups of adults. early and not so early. take it from an actual pedo (attracted only to prepubescents) you're not abnormal. just move on with your life. stop feeling guilty for feelings everyone else has too but is socially incentivized to ignore or lie about
>>42564272>>42564298>>42564899if you are a cute trans girl, its fine. at least with boys. all boys wish they could have a hot trans mommy gf. if youre a hon pls ***
>>42565044>>42564340why do you like them? what do you wanna do with them?
>>42565150I feel like being attracted to people who are only barely starting puberty is a little weird, let alone those who haven't quite.
>>42564272seclude yourself from society entirely, never interact with another human being under any circumstanceshermitmode and live on a mountain peak
>>42565177well you're conditioned to feel that way because society has decided to make a really intense red line at 18 because the court system is too lazy to figure out if kids were or weren't getting abused so they just decided to draw a random line in the sand and say nothing below it is allowed. this social norm doesn't change biology though. puberty = adult and adult means = normal people may be attracted. period. that simple. seriously just get over it.
Not trans, but:>Don't see a therapist. They will not help you with shit like self-esteem issues, you will be reduced to a dangerous retard who needs to be told rape is bad repeatedly and nothing more, maybe even have your job and family life ruined if they feel like it. Remember that you're a mythological subhuman bogeyman to most of society.>Don't commit a crime.>Don't compensate with drugs or alcohol.>Don't tell anyone except empathetic and non-judgemental friends (sounds like this was already an issue, I'm sorry).>Don't kill yourself.
>>42565195Aside from the fact that those who have barely started puberty are not in any fit state to actually have children yet (i.e. sexual attraction to them does not serve the evolutionary purpose of sexual attraction), did you miss the bit about those who haven't quite started it?
>>42565183Having no social connections is probably more likely to make them offend anon, they should have stuff in their life not worth losing.
>>42565223im just choosing to believe you're being retarded and thinking that puberty starts at 14 and you were once attracted to a 13 year old. random numbers btw the point im making doesnt depend on them. but i think most ppl associate 14 w puberty despite it being kind of late actually for it.
>>42565217>>Don't tell anyone except empathetic and non-judgemental friends (sounds like this was already an issue, I'm sorry).I've asked a couple friends in general terms whether they think that being attracted to children inherently makes someone a bad person even if they're strongly determined to never act on it, and they've generally said "no", but I don't know if they suspect my reasons for asking are personal.>>42565234No, I'm aware it varies by individual and sometimes starts before then.
>>42565247well im too tired to investigate if u rly have some pedo in you or not and too tired to if you do, sell you on my entire worldview on the topic to like make you feel better but like please stop worrying abt it it doesnt matter youre fine youre not a bad person and the only ppl who think you are either have sub 70 iq or are virtue signalling that child rape is bad and taking it out on innocent ppl for extra virtue signal points
>>42565247i feel very sad that u find urself in this situation. i am unsure what advice to offer as our society does not support any support structures that would assist with the relative suffering u must endure.i am sorry. if we make a better society, i will try to make sure it has things/places/persons in it such that you could attempt some reductions in suffering without causing harm to yourself or othersi hope that you can live as fulfilling a life as you can despite the situation
>>42565264why are you extending so much sympathy to someone who can have a normal life with a relationship with someone their own age like oh my god spare me the drama. the girl just needs to get over herself and move on. its not that serious.
>>42565274I know there are people who have it a lot worse than me but that's true of every person but one, is no one besides that one person allowed to complain?
Familiarize yourself with the harm it can cause. Dont go looking for material either. do not let yourself make any excuses for it and seriously dont listen to the preds on here telling you romantic/sexual relationships between child and adult can be acceptable. Shame and guilt are not good emotions to carry with you, so don't blame yourself or loop yourself in with predators. but mostly just do not go looking for harm material. Your attraction doesn't mean you can't be happy or lead a good and virtuous life.
>>42565289they can complain abt something that matters i wont cry then but like being like "omg im marginally attracted to ppl who schizophrenics pretend to not be attracted to so we can all have one last universal punching bag" is so dumb >>42565298romantic/sexual relationships between child and adult can be acceptable though. stop burying your head in the bigoted sand.
>>42565247I mean, I don't know how close your friends are so I won't push any decision that might risk your social life. But yeah, the isolation seems like a major factor. Studies in forensic science suggest something like 50% of peds kill themselves, I would guess social ostracism is a huge factor... those studies are heavily skewed by being drawn from convicted people and not closeted ones though. Parents especially tend to have protective instincts (for good reason). OCD sufferers might relate to your unwanted thoughts more even if not paras themselves, I have it.If you're non exclusive I'd try to just mask with a healthy adult relationship personally.
>>42565274bc she is in an unpleasant situation and i am drunk and tired and feel like trying to be nice to peoplei also used to work with populations w criminal/SA tendencies so i'm predisposed to empathize more strongly, as some of the ppl i spent the most time w for some of my years were pedophiles w some disability or another
non exclusivity is fortunate thoughperhaps it can just be a mild annoyance and silly thing society decided to dogood fortune either way
>>42564272i think that there are many more pedos than will admit it .
>>42565304If by child and adult you mean 17-year-old and 18-year-old I guess technically, but I kind of doubt a relationship between, say, a 13-year-old and a 25-year-old can be particularly healthy, even if the former has in fact started puberty. Even supposing if it's possible in principle despite the inherent power dynamic, the fact that it's taboo in our society means any 13-year-old seeking to date adults would be selecting for people willing to break social and ethical norms in other ways.
>>42565322NTA but how did the exclusively attracted ones go? Just curious. Seems like most offenders are opportunitists
>>42564272you need to be removed from society and undergo serious mental reconditioning. if that doesn't work you should probably be executed. you have one of the worst impluses it's possible for a human being to possess. i want you to imagine you had an irresistible desire to commit murder or rape, what do you think should be done in that situation? you are way too much of a danger to be free, you should probably be in a high security mental institution or again, dead.
>>42565322ykw sorry i just kind of got upset seeing this person get that when ive been getting told to kill myself all fucking day (well longer than that but today is whats in my mind) except i dont get to walk away and ignore this like OP does
>>42565346Most people get the urge to kill people anon. Hell, you're fantasizing about killing someone now. Maybe get a more realistic view of humanity.
>>42565347i am deeply sorry for your situation as well. i hope we can do better next time.>>42565342usually the attraction was comorbid with something that impaired impulse control, downs, schizophrenia, etc. but there were some ppl we had to keep a close eye on when we went out and consistently remind them that they're supposed to be looking at us or whoever else came with when we, for instance, went to the park and children walked by, saw a child on the tv & had to remind to change the channel if they lingered, etc. they'd generally comply/sometimes make excuses or get pouty about it, 's sorta like a kid that really likes ice cream and ice cream occasionally walks around & you need to tell them 'remember, you're not allowed to have ice cream according to your care plan, and we get to keep our going-to-the-store-when-we-feel-like-it priveleges when we follow our care plan, right? yay, the ice cream is gone now that we've had this exchange'
>>42565341>but I kind of doubt a relationship between, say, a 13-year-old and a 25-year-old can be particularly healthywell, you can doubt it, but people who have lived it say it was great for them. newgon has a testimonies page which basically consists of interviews or quotes from celebs (a lot of which are gay) who said they had a relationship like that when they were younger and it was good. an example is george takei. >the fact that it's taboo in our society means any 13-year-old seeking to date adults would be selecting for people willing to break social and ethical norms in other ways.this is certainly a factor and it is one that makes me worried abt the fact that all these things have to be hidden from society's view. i'd say this is an argument in favor of stopping discriminating against this though. please do consider how many don't get involved because of this sort of thing though and what that might say abt them actually being decent people you could trust.
>>42565346do you think posting on an anonymous image board makes you cool? like, most people say this shit on public accounts with their face yknow. and they're not even cool.
>>42565378goddamn you're evil. you realize you were putting people through fucking conversion therapy right? remember how we established how awful this was to do to homosexuals? why the fuck do you think its okay to do to pedos. god this world is fucked up. its one thing if someone was a literal child rapist and was getting told to not rape children again or whatever but just fucking trying to erase someone's sexuality entirely is shit.
>>42565405oh, no, these were people who had in fact previously raped children. society doesn't provide an alternative than 'have an extremely poorly paid and overworked random person remind you that we're not allowed to rape children periodically'
>>42564272do you have any symptoms of OCD? usually when people say this is a manifestation of what’s called POCD or pedophilic-themed obsessive compulsive disorder
>>42565378You're a very sweet person anon. Sorry for asking.
>>42565362are you autistic by chance? there's a difference between frustratedly wishing someone dead and having a irresistible desire to commit murder. also a state sanctioned death penalty for rape, murder or paedophilia AFTER psychological intervention has been attempted is not the same as having a violent urge to murder people.you just want to obfuscate how reprehensible your desires are. the reason people like you need to be humanely executed is that it's immorral to keep someone in indefinite captivity but you are also inherently too dangerous to be allowed around others in society
>>42565431It's not irresistible anon
>>42564272No clue. I'm also sexually at to underage/pubescent boys but I've resolved myself to never act on it (or any other kind of sexual urges) and it doesn't make up most of my sexuality anyway so I just try not to think about it.
>>42565417you didn't say that they were all offenders. you said like tendencies. so there is like a 60% chance i was just defending someone who isn't even a pedo then (the majority of people who abuse kids aren't attracted to them). incredible. god i need to go lay down and stop being upset. but stupid people today are just being the worst. >>42565431children can consent
>>42565405no you're evil, you literally fantasize about raping children. that's one of the most evil actions a human being can commit. you need to be seperated from the rest of society for the safety of children. what you have isn't a sexuality, its a disorder that needs to be treated as such. gay men or women who are both adults are capable of consent to sex, children are not. end of.
>>42565424i don't mind sharing. thank you for thinking so, i try hard to be Good, validation for doing so is helpful, despite the particular instance being largely circumstancial and probably some weird form of masochism/self-hatred, it was a very abusive job>>42565440yes, some of them had committed other crimes such as arson or assault, but they were in the Community Protection program, so their care team would provide instructions for support staff if they had paraphilic tendencies that the care team deemed worthy of intervention. generally speaking we wouldn't intervene unless there was an incident relating to behavioral occurence, in which case the care plan would generally get updated to include intervention guidelines>>42565450not evil, just Wired All Wrong and we'd rather kill them than do anything productive about it
>>42565382It may be the case that many aren't traumatized, but there are many that are, such that it seems dangerous and irresponsible, much as it's irresponsible to drive drunk even if not every instance of drunk driving actually results in an accident.>>42565405It seems a little different because homosexuality can be ethically acted on and pedophilia can't.>>42565419No, never been diagnosed with it or had anyone suggest I might have it.>>42565431Plenty of people manage to be attracted to adults without raping anyone. If you're attracted to children having a moral compass means never acting on it because doing so would inherently be rape.
>>42565450Fantasizing isn't the most evil thing somebody can do. Most SA victims don't even appreciate bloodhound keyboard warriors screeching their paladin fantasies into every space about this stuff. It makes everything about their own masculinity. Realistically nobody would seek treatment if the punishment you propose for thoughts was that high, the way you talk about autism suggests you're bad with neurodivergent people in general though
>>42565450no, i actually want to throw up when i think about children being raped. its sick and twisted. you wouldn't understand though, you're brainwashed by jews to call anything involving them rape so that they and they alone get to do it and nobody ever teaches those kids whats happening isnt right. fucking useful idiot. go vote for another child rapist already you dumb normie.
>>42564272unironically ropeor get severe psychiatric treatment before you do something horrific
>>42565439>(or any other kind of sexual urges)Why?
>>42565466i can't imagine believing mutually fufilling and beneficial consensual sexual relations is unethical and rape.
>>42565467>Fantasizing isn't the most evil thing somebody can do.I think you resolved the pronoun anaphora wrong there- they're saying that the thing the fantasies are about doing is one of the most evil things anyone can do. But people can't help what does and doesn't turn them on, they can only help what they do about it.
>>42565454Do you think treatment is smart for non offenders anyway? The current psychiatric modalities we have seem almost entirely skewed to rapists so maybe it's dumbing asking you if that was your field anyway. Just wondering if any of the offenders sought help before their crime
>>42565478I don't have the right genitals
>>42565503*dumb asking
>>42565506Wait are you ftm
>>42565506Can't modern medicine do something about that?
>>42565503they generally didn't, i worked with adults that usually had somewhat severe developmental disabilities. some of their guardians presumably might have attempted to get them into treatment, but for the most part, it didn't seem like it had occurred to them that it was an issue. they just felt the feelings they felt and then did the things they did.>>42565503that said, i do think it's worth exploring finding a mental health professional you can establish enough trust with to discuss the topic with them. most of us have plenty of other issues to work on in the meantime, and i don't think every provider will throw everything they know about you out the window and call the cops if you say 'sometimes i struggle with intrusive sexual thoughts about younger people and it makes me feel very isolated. before you ask, i have never considered asking on the thoughts, but i only tell you this bc i am feeling pretty nervous about sharing this with you and worry that it'll affect our provider-patient relationship. please let me know if i should discuss this with another provider rather than yourself.' it is a risk, however. but some extra therapy about the thing that isn't the big giant thing usually doesn't hurt.
>>42565529...sort of, kind of.>>42565531It can't fix the issue entirely!
>>42565534dont tell professionals unless you live in like germany or else there is zero reason to trust them to not report you over nothing.
>>42565547What do you mean "kind of"?
>>42565565You can take hrt and not be transgender.
>>42565534specialists in sex & paraphilia/ 'sex therapists' usually aren't covered by insurance, but tend to be more open minded. lgbtqia+ specialists may also be open to discussing the topic, however, the approach might backfire in that case as well as some of them may have unresolved SA issues or personal feelings about the topic. however, if they're experienced, they'll usually give you the 'yes, i think it would be best if you discussed that topic with another provider, as i ahve some personal biases that might affect my ability to provide you adequate care when discussing that topic.' and then usually can follow that on with a referral.ultimately, treatments that are effective for OCD and addiction can be helpful, it's a similar principle. it won't 'fix' your sexuality, but if you need to repress, redirect, or cope with urges, usually the coping skills can be effective tools regardless of the situation. i know there were a few paraphilia/cutting/ED people in my SMART recovery groups when i was facilitating, i imagine some of the tools would apply in your case, & we generally don't pressure for specifics until or unless you're ready to discuss them.>>42565561they're generally mandatory reporters in the states, so if they beleive you to be a genuine risk of harm to a person (child, yourself, or otherwise) then they can lose their license for failing to report. something to be aware of.statistically speaking, i shouldn't have told my psychiatrist i'm trans, as it only reduces my chances of receiving adequate care from a probabilistic standpoint, but i told her anyway bc i felt comfortable enough with her to take the leap. do what feels right, eotd.
>>42565574yeah mandatory reporting laws are a well intentioned disaster. better than i can say for most shitty laws i guess that were meant to be terrible.
>>42565610agreed 1000%. got written up bc a supported individual who specifically engages in SA accusation attention-seeking behavior half-mentioned 'oh the new person tuch my pp' & then repeated it to their guardian a week later. had to get retrained for not filing a report with the state despite having filled out the internal incident reporting form after investigating the obvious bait & leaving gud notes, was annoyingthat said disabled criminal ppl are giga likely to get SA'd, especially by staff, so i get why they have the policy, it was just a dumb situation
