Give me a genuine, no-bullshit description of what kind of cis woman is actually REALLY attracted to trans women. And don't say none are, because surely there are some in the billions of cis women on this planet. What are actual cis f chasers like?
>>42564538fujoshis but theyre gonna try to make you into the uke
Very dominant ones, the kind of cisw that will ask you to get dolled up just to reverse masturbate you and tell you that you are her girl.
>>42564538Women who have animosity to men, without full blind prejudice, who get a thrill out of emasculating and dominating a man to an extreme level. Most of the time, they're black women
>>42564538i don't like men and i need someone with a penisit's quite simple
kpop fujos
>>42564538Is that Lara Croft
>>42564546why am i ok with this
>>42564538the problem is they see them as men so why shouldn't I say none?
>>42566344because you're male and the idea of being the big comforting boyfriend to a smaller emotionally insane girlfriend is in your blood and your conditioning
>>42566366gross
>>42566366no i mean being a uke to a cisf chaser duhh
>>42564551wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwow
>>42564551four real????
The actual answer is very boring and its just 'some lesbians' or 'bisexual women'. The ones who are not weird about trans women probably only would date trans girls who have their life in good shape though and most board users here do not.
>>42564538Why are mtfs literally so desperate for ANY INKLING of cisf attention, even if its not from actual women, they get so aroused at the mere thought of a cis f vagina haver being attracted to them that they have to make entire threads about it... this stuff is so pathetic genuinely
>>42564538i’ve been going on dates with cis women lately. mostly bi. mostly older but that’s just what i’m into. i have a kind of sweet/innocent energy, that seems to be what they like most about me.
>>42566575how do u meet them?
>>42566572seething chaser hands wrote this
>>42566578apps. her, specifically (the women-only dating app). im way too insecure to flirt with people irl
>>42566584how old are u? is there such a thing as being too young for that type to go for you
>>42566587i’m in my 30s. idk about that srry
>>42566572Mtfs are the biggest simps of all time
>>42566575how much older?
>>42564538Pansex
>>42566896i’m in my 30s, they are in their 40s
>>42566994cute…
>>42566572i want to be with a woman but i don't really want to be with a trans woman because i am attracted to vagina
>>42567074This is how I feel except I am an ftm lesbian. I mean I think the reason you dont want to date a trans woman is because they are ugly in your eyes and masculine and not feminine, but I buy the reason that its cuz you like vagina too. Pussy is really sexy and pretty to me. Do you like pink pussies
>>42566572>>42567074I am not specifically attracted to cis women or vagina. I am a gay tranny though. The reason I tend not to pursue other trans women is that most of them are in some way stunted or under developed. They are just damaged in some way and whilst I can feel sympathy for them I do not find that attractive. I would be similarly not attracted to stunted cis women. The trans women who are well adjusted are ones you would meet naturally whilst being open to dating any other woman and so are rare due to just being well integrated. Its not that I specifically seek cis women its just that I am so put off by the hypersexual infantile transbian polycule culture that most people associate with trans lesbianism.
>>42567113Reads as soon self hating baby
>>42567123I have no idea what you mean by this sorry
>>42567141Lol I meant to say so self hating
>>42567083well i would maybe date an ftm too (??? i have been thinking of myself as a lesbian since my boyfriend and i broke up but i think the issue is probably just penis and i have never tried this) but maybe you are right idk. i definitely do not think of trans women as ugly as a rule; in fact there are many ppl on this board who make me very jealous bc i myself exist solidly at the masucline end of whatever spectrum comprises womanhood...but that could be a subconscious part of it, i guess. desu the reason i think you could be right is because i don't even really have any experience with vagina at all as my (ex-)boyfriend and i were together for like all five years of my adult life so far. i've never even tried that. i just know that i don't really like penis at all. but i also think vaginas are very pretty...i always thought it was really unfair when i was a kid that i got stuck with the way-uglier thing. everything about a vagina is better it is compact it is stationary it is soft and it just is aesthetically nice to look at. plus when i have one it will probably feel better.>>42567113until i read the last sentence of your post i was thinking you were talking about me lol. is that your definition of "stunted" (not that you are wrong)?
>>42564538Maybe this is some pretty brutal sample bias but the one i dated for a year and a half — starting in my last year of highschool — was fat, emotionally manipulative, had weird hon-esque tits, 6’2”, rugby captain, gross-smelling vagina, and had a goon cave full of sissy porn (2 monitors, iphone, ipad, wall-to-wall). I could tell a million stories about how fucking bizarre it was watching a cis woman’s fantasy of having a failed male boytoy come true but, suffice it to say, shit was bad. After we broke up I went on a streak of fucking like 18 trannies in 2 months and all of them fucked better than her.
>>42567146I don't think I am self hating and in fact I have had some deeply loving relationships with other trans women. I love trans women and I love being trans. I invite you to take a moment and ask if you think our community is healthy, or one damaged so intensely by dysphoria or marginalisation that they do just make worse partners than cis people. If you spend much time in public facing LGBT spaces you will quickly learn that they are full of damaged people with poor interpersonal skills and a shaky understanding of boundaries. I do meet cis women like this but its rarer. I do meet trans women not like this but its rarer. This is not meant with bitterness but as a frank appraisal of the state we are in as trans people.>>42567147By stunted I generally mean poor emotional intelligence and interpersonal skills. Trans women are sadly often consumed by insecurities that they try to mask in harmful ways. If you are someone who has grown past that it can be hard to spend time in trans centric spaces.
>>42567113it's the fact that you people think cis lesbians are well adjusted that gets me lol
>>42567156Repressing FtM. Very obviously.
>>42567164Compared to trans women they absolutely are. Have you not spent time in transbian circles? They're the worst
>>42567176you are a baby
>>42567160i am definitely extremely insecure and introverted and have poor interpersonal skills lol. so i guess it is me. but i tend to get along with everyone anyways so maybe someone would like me...idki also just want a normal woman mostly. someone with whom i can have a quiet domestic life and read and play games and listen to music and go out window-shopping and walking in the park or on hikes etc. my ex-boyfriend and i spent a lot of time just sitting in bed playing video games while i watched and i loved that because i loved being with him but it was very limiting...i don't wanna do that with a girl
>>42567183Okay. Have you ever spent time in circles of trans lesbians?>>42567185It sounds as though you have a lot of stuff to sit with and figure out
>>42567194>Have you ever spent time in circles of trans lesbians?yeah they are full of guys like you
>>42567194for definitely...i want to believe srs might heal me some. but i'm also committed to getting better and being a happier person as long as i'm around and i hope that i will be around a good long time. it will happen eventually i am sure
>>42567168Yeah absolutely. I could have convinced him to transition if I wasn’t just miserable for a myriad of unrelated reasons.
>>42567205I have no idea what you mean and you seem bitter. Do you disagree with >>42567160. My experiences with trans lesbians have pretty consistently been like this for the last 7 years at the very least. The exceptions are women who are well integrated into groups and spaces that are not trans. In my experience cis lesbians generally are not stunted in the same way by virtue of not experiencing the marginalisation and dysphoria that trans women experience. I think they can sometimes suck or be emotionally unintelligent but it does not seem to be the same issue that the trans community faces from what I have seen.>>42567211I think it might be a good place to start to work on not feeling so inadequate. You can't get that on a surgery table.
>>42567216you are correct, in a sense, but i think most of the things tormenting me on a daily basis can be traced directly or indirectly back to my anxieties about getting surgery or not yet having had surgery. including my confidence...i often feel unable to do certain things because i am crippled by all the stuff racing through my head all the time, but if surgery would alleviate that...there are obviously other things, of course, eg i am very conscious of the fact that i allow myself to be walked over and need to stop this, but i don't believe it is too foolish to imagine surgery will help, at least a little. anyways like i said, i'm doing my best...day by day i am a better person and eventually i know i will make it out of the weeds :) anyhow thanks for listening to me i guess. this is really only tangentially related to the discussion
>>42567216>you seem bitteryou are projecting lol
>>42567264You sound really cute and innocent and id let you see (?) Or lick my soft pussy as you described them
>>42567288Lollll jk unless
>>42564538i've dated one cis woman before. i don't really know what to say. She was absolutely gorgeous, and I don't just say that because I loved her like she was actually extremely beautiful like prettiest girl in the class by far if she walked into a place everyone would look at her like one of the prettiest people I've ever met, and I thought that about her before I even liked her. Very popular (in high school, we were seniors). She had a very busy life and lots of people knew her but she didn't seem like she was all that close to too many people. She was very mentally ill and maybe a little emotionally unstable but it didn't make her a bad person at all. She was never mean or cruel or terrible to anyone she was just damaged. She also had some health problems (a chronic disability). She had been sexually abused both when she was younger and when I knew her, her family was abusive as well (but not in that way). Youngest child. She was a pretty comfortable and confident person and she could be loud and she could be really silly but she had her quiet days too. She was incredibly kind. Solid typical lefty politics (obviously).She was a switch. Her past relationships had all been with men and some of them had gone very poorly and she seemed very excited that things were different with me, which shocked me at first. She was VERY "dominant" with me I guess she would pin me down a lot and tease me and things like that. Those moments were the happiest I've ever been. idk what more to say about her i could talk about her forever but hopefully this was enough. She was one of the best people I've ever met and I miss her dearly but I will never see her again. I destroyed our relationship with frequent psycho BPD crashouts I became obsessed with her (because she was the first person to ever care about me like that) and controlling and I just ruined everything. But she was really great. I was a much worse person then.
>>42567296she wasn't a chaser but i feel like i introduced her to some things she had probably never thought about before. like she did say on a couple occasions that she thought me being trans was hot. and cute. and stuff like that. this is ridiculously embarrassing and stupid and cringe (i was 17!) but one time i showed her a like, we were talking about what we were into! and i showed her like a "feminization" doujin kinda thing and she actually seemed like she really liked it,, . She would call me a good girl and stuff like that (i know that's really typical it seems). idk. it's interesting because she seemed like such a normal person (and she was) and so I would have never thought she would be into that sort of thing, she was like the popular pretty girl literally, and I don't think she knew she was into that before me either. I think she sort of realized through men and our situation
>>42567275Idk you just seem grumpy like idk why you need to make personal digs at me instead of engaging with my thoughts. I don't think it is actually that controversial to say that newly transitioning trans women are generally not very well adjusted. Nor that being well adjusted means people tend to leave trans community.
>>42564732It’s Christine Redfield now chud
>>42567294lol only if you're nice take me out to dinner first...not that you haven't seemed a good person here :p>>42567296>>42567317this is really sweet nonny...i'm sorry it had to end badly. i'm glad you got to have good experiences while they lasted, though. someone else will come along and treat you just as well <3
>>42566503>>42566466Not wow, it's embarrassing and humiliating, at first it was "for fun", when I first met her we would go window shopping, not much time passed before she started suggesting me to dress up, I clearly remember the first time, we were in a clothing store, she grabbed a skirt, a top and some heels and said loudly "you'd look great in these", everyone turned around, I felt like I was fainting, that's the exact moment she realized she could do whatever she wanted with me, took me to her apartment, dressed me up completely and made me stay like that until the next day, it kept repeating at least once a week, we started going to gay bars, we grew closer, did everything together, that went on for years.One day she asked me to move in with her, couldn't decide it at the moment, I liked her but living together was something else, she insisted for weeks until I accepted, things changed abruptly, I guess having someone as a doll was fun if it was intermittent, but having me there all day didn't feel right, I stopped dressing up, even threw some of my clothes away, one day we had a fight, was sleeping on the couch when she woke me up, "take these clothes, I need to do something, I can't sleep", so I went upstairs and told me she needed to see me that way, made me finish and asked me to sleep like that beside her. It became a punishment, it was no longer fun, she knew I don't like masturbating, let alone doing that while dressed up.
>>42567582i wish i knew a cis girl like that. i'd do whatever she wanted i just want to be liked. >>42566572because a lot of us seek validation and approval from cis women because we feel so othered by transness and excluded and isolated any amount of positive attention from women is like the best feeling in the world because it makes us feel like we're okay and we're allowed to exist and we're not horrible monsters. it's just that combined with being attracted to women. it's not about being a "vagina haver" it's not like i fetishize cisness it's just like. someone that someone would NEVER be questioned in their femininity or as a woman, it's like their the arbiter of womanhood, so if i have their approval that means so much to me
